On 9/7/10 5:01 PM, dave wrote:
hwh wrote:


You don't want to hear the simple truth: no broadcast system can sound
properly at 40 or 48 kbps. Both Sirius and HD use rates like that, or
less. And therefore they sound bad. I've heard them both and yes: in
practice even on a rental car stereo they do not match the FM produced
by the same receiver and speakers.

gr, hwh

I listen to a 32 Kb (22 kHz rate) mono webstream from KPFT and it sounds
great. Even music. Better than AM. Better than XM.

Yes but I was talking FM. Of course matching AM is not very demanding.

gr, hwh

RHF wrote:

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IT AIN'T RADIO ! [AM v FM& Analog v Digital]
-cause- there ain't no radio : snap, crackle and pop

I have a standalone WiFi radio tuner (Myine IRA), which uses an RF link
from my router. It is connected to a Whole House Gold FM transmitter
with the antenna taped to a picture window. I get a good 500' to
1,000', depending. I have half a dozen FM radios all over the house
listening sometimes. None loud.

KPFT is a fully licensed full-power broadcasting station.

How is this NOT radio?

hwh wrote:
On 9/7/10 5:01 PM, dave wrote:
hwh wrote:


You don't want to hear the simple truth: no broadcast system can sound
properly at 40 or 48 kbps. Both Sirius and HD use rates like that, or
less. And therefore they sound bad. I've heard them both and yes: in
practice even on a rental car stereo they do not match the FM produced
by the same receiver and speakers.

gr, hwh

I listen to a 32 Kb (22 kHz rate) mono webstream from KPFT and it sounds
great. Even music. Better than AM. Better than XM.

Yes but I was talking FM. Of course matching AM is not very demanding.

gr, hwh

I was addressing "sound bad". Most FM sounds terrible.

On Sep 7, 9:47*am, dave wrote:
RHF wrote:
* .
IT AIN'T RADIO ! [AM v FM& *Analog v Digital]
-cause- there ain't no radio : snap, crackle and pop

- I have a standalone WiFi radio tuner (Myine IRA), which uses an RF
link
- from my router. *It is connected to a Whole House Gold FM
transmitter
- with the antenna taped to a picture window. *I get a good 500' to
- 1,000', depending. *I have half a dozen FM radios all over the house
- listening sometimes. None loud.
-
- KPFT is a fully licensed full-power broadcasting station.

It's All Good ) -and- Great For You Dave )

- How is this NOT radio?

Dave - Let's see are you first receiving KPFT FM 90.1 MHz
Over-the-Air on an AM/FM Radio -or- via the Internet ?

Note - KPFT-FM @ 90.1 MHz is in Houston, TX
http://www.kpft.org/
-and- Dave you are in SoCal Land ;;-}}
-fyi- ~1500 Air Miles

Dave - I am currently [12Noon] listening to a real
Radio Broadcast Over-the-Air from KVLM-AM
1450 kHz in Sonora, CA : http://www.kvml.com/
-fyi- ~10 Air Miles
* The Huckabee Report {Radio}
http://radio.mikehuckabee.com/
* KCRA3 / KVML 'Mother Lode' Weather Report
with Eileen Javora
http://www.kcra.com/weather/grid.html
* Sean Hannity Radio Show
http://www.hannity.com/stations

RHF wrote:


Dave - Let's see are you first receiving KPFT FM 90.1 MHz
Over-the-Air on an AM/FM Radio -or- via the Internet ?

Yes

On 9/17/10 6:20 PM, SMS wrote:
For now, one of the big attractions of the HD2 sub-channel is the almost
total lack of commercials. As HD receiver penetration continues to
increase there will be attempts to monetize it, which will reduce the
attraction of it. The far better audio quality of HD, and the better
content, are advantages to be sure, but the lack of commercials is one
of the biggest attractions.


HD radio audio quality is better than what? AM radio?

One thing I'd like to see is higher bit rates on HD2 and lower bit rates
on HD1.

It would be better to use the bandwidth for the second channel *only* to
give it enough bits to sound properly.

gr, hwh