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On Sun, 3 Apr 2011 13:58:56 -0700 (PDT), RHF wrote:
Whether you like Prez "BO" {Obama} or not : BHO is the Elected US Prez-A-Duntz [...] Actually, there hasn't been a legally elected "US President" for over a century. When the government brazenly violates its own structural rules, as has every "administration" since that of Abraham Lincoln, it cannot be regarded as legal or constitutional. When the legislature of Maryland was arrested and imprisoned because they were about to "vote wrongly" -- when supposed "constitutional amendments" were enacted under force of military occupation and dictatorship, and near-total disenfranchisement, how can the resulting government be regarded as a continuation of the original? It simply can't. The best and most honorable policy is to never refer to the current ruling structure as "the US government" or even "the federal government." Call it what it is: the illegal regime in Washington. With all good wishes, Kevin Alfred Strom. -- http://nationalvanguard.org/ http://kevinalfredstrom.com/ |
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On 04/04/2011 07:03 AM, Sancho Panza wrote:
On 4/4/2011 8:57 AM, dave wrote: On 04/03/2011 11:23 PM, Jarbidge wrote: On Sun, 03 Apr 2011 22:02:47 -0700, Curt wrote: I saw it too. The State Department is apparently satisfied that he's a citz. Curt Low threshold of proof...again.... As they are the ones who issue passports their threshold is good enough for me. You don't need a U.S. birth certificate to obtain a U.S. passport. I needed one. They rubbed it. |
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On Apr 4, 11:14*am, dave wrote:
On 04/04/2011 07:03 AM, Sancho Panza wrote: On 4/4/2011 8:57 AM, dave wrote: On 04/03/2011 11:23 PM, Jarbidge wrote: On Sun, 03 Apr 2011 22:02:47 -0700, Curt wrote: I saw it too. The State Department is apparently satisfied that he's a citz. Curt Low threshold of proof...again.... As they are the ones who issue passports their threshold is good enough for me. You don't need a U.S. birth certificate to obtain a U.S. passport. I needed one. They rubbed it.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - In order to make official seal impressions visible our clerks and deeds registry folks, such as Gladys Worley, Jo Corn, or Elizabeth Digges, smeared the impression with black ink so that it would show up when photocopied for recording in the books held in the locked vaults at the courthouse, and on microfiche. Now these official documents are all digitized to save cramped courthouses a little space, but paper documents are still indispensable. After time- stamping and recording the original instrument, complete with the smears, is then returned to the homeowner, lienholder, testator, trustor, or . . . So many birthers, so much inbreeding and stupidity. Neanderthal DNA yet lives! You just cannot school that neanderthal DNA. It's dumb as an ox. |
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On 4/4/2011 9:03 AM, ExtremeRatSpending wrote:
he [Obama] appears to be on vacation all the time Yeah, it's not like W. Bush doesn't hold the modern ALL TIME RECORD for being away from the White House. |
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On Mon, 04 Apr 2011 05:56:22 -0700, dave wrote:
On 04/03/2011 10:02 PM, Curt wrote: I saw it too. The State Department is apparently satisfied that he's a citz. Curt It's obvious he is 100% All-American by the way he dresses on vacation. He is way too dorky to be anything else. Thanks for your Urkel wisdom, now **** off. |
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On 04/04/2011 09:20 AM, Jarbidge wrote:
Congressional Government Accounting Office (You do realize this happened during the GWB admin...) Summary A U.S. passport is one of the most sought after travel documents in the world, allowing its holder entrance into the United States and many other countries. People attempting to obtain a U.S. passport illegally often seek to use the guise of a U.S. citizen to conceal their involvement with more serious crimes, such as terrorism, drug trafficking, money laundering, or murder. In March 2009, GAO reported on weaknesses in State's passport issuance process that could allow a terrorist or criminal to fraudulently acquire a genuine U.S. passport. Specifically, GAO easily obtained four genuine passports from State using counterfeit documents. In April 2009, GAO suggested that State take 5 corrective actions based on these undercover tests and State acknowledged those corrective actions. GAO was asked to perform additional proactive testing of State's passport issuance process to determine if it continues to be vulnerable to fraud. To do this work, GAO applied for seven U.S. passports using counterfeit or fraudulently obtained documents, such as driver's licenses and birth certificates, to simulate scenarios based on identity theft. GAO created documents for seven fictitious or deceased individuals using off-the-shelf, commercially available hardware, software, and materials. Undercover investigators applied for passports at six U.S. Postal Service locations and one State-run passport office. State's passport issuance process continues to be vulnerable to fraud, as the agency issued five of the seven passports GAO attempted to fraudulently obtain. While there were multiple indicators of fraud and identity theft in each application, State identified only two as fraudulent during its adjudication process and mailed five genuine U.S. passports to undercover GAO mailboxes. GAO successfully obtained three of these passports, but State had the remaining two recovered from the mail before they were delivered. According to State officials, the agency discovered--after its adjudication process--that the two passports were part of GAO testing when they were linked to one of the passport applications it initially denied. State officials told GAO that they used facial recognition technology--which they could have also used during the adjudication process--to identify the two remaining applications. GAO's tests show that State does not consistently use data verification and counterfeit detection techniques in its passport issuance process. Of the five passports it issued, State did not recognize discrepancies and suspicious indicators within each application. Some examples include: passport photos of the same investigator on multiple applications; a 62 year-old applicant using a Social Security number issued in 2009; passport and driver's license photos showing about a 10 year age difference; and the use of a California mailing address, a West Virginia permanent address and driver's license address, and a Washington, D.C. phone number in the same application. These were fraud indicators that should have been identified and questioned by State. State also failed to crosscheck the bogus citizenship and identity documents in the applications against the same databases that it later used to detect GAO's other fraudulent applications. State used facial recognition technology to identify the photos of GAO undercover investigators and to stop the subsequent delivery of two passports but not to detect fraud in the three applications that GAO received, which all contained a passport photo of the same investigator. |
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On 04/04/2011 09:20 AM, Jarbidge wrote:
On Mon, 04 Apr 2011 06:11:34 -0700, dave wrote: On 04/04/2011 06:03 AM, ExtremeRatSpending wrote: On 4/4/2011 8:56 AM, dave wrote: On 04/03/2011 10:02 PM, Curt wrote: I saw it too. The State Department is apparently satisfied that he's a citz. Curt It's obvious he is 100% All-American by the way he dresses on vacation. He is way too dorky to be anything else. he appears to be on vacation all the time Is that supposed to be "quick" and "witty"? **** off. ....you're a true vulgarian, aren't you? |
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On Mon, 04 Apr 2011 05:57:17 -0700, dave wrote:
On 04/03/2011 11:23 PM, Jarbidge wrote: On Sun, 03 Apr 2011 22:02:47 -0700, Curt wrote: I saw it too. The State Department is apparently satisfied that he's a citz. Curt Low threshold of proof...again.... As they are the ones who issue passports their threshold is good enough for me. Never seen a bad-papered one, fool? http://rt.com/usa/news/fake-papers-c...passport-even- after-9-11/ A report issued by the Congressional Government Accounting Office reveals shocking details of how easily one can get a genuine American passport by applying using falsified documents at a passport office. A draft of this report was obtained by The Associated Press. A government investigator, in order to check the security in post-9/11 America, used documents, among others, from a child and a man who died over 40 years ago to obtain a passport – and succeeded in all his attempts. After the 2001 terrorist attacks, security expenses in the US skyrocketed. Passport security was among many that were a particular focus since the suicide terrorists that attacked the WTC and Pentagon used fraudulent driver’s licenses to board the planes. Now it looks like, to put it mildly, the measures taken were insufficient and over the past seven years U.S. officials have learned nothing about passport security and fraudulent documents. How he did it The investigator made four attempts to get a passport using a combination of fake documents and was granted a new passport in all four cases. In one case, a combination of a Social Security number of a man who died in 1965, together with both a fake New York birth certificate and a Florida driver's license, made it possible to get an American passport in just four days. Investigators gave it another try by providing the personal information of a 5-year-old boy to the passport application office, while pretending to be a 53-year old. He got his new passport in seven days. The third time he made a two-step operation. He started by obtaining a genuine Washington D.C. identity card using fake documents – and he did it. Then he used the card to be issued a new passport in one day. The final time the investigator used a forged New York birth certificate along with a fake West Virginia driver's license to complete an application for a passport which took a little more than a week – just eight days – for him to receive. It is unnecessary to mention that fake passports from almost any country have a great value to the parties involved, from criminals to terrorists. The U.S. intelligence officials from Immigration and Customs Enforcement state in the report that a badly forged American passport costs about $300 on the black market while the value of a top-quality forgery could be as high as $5000. |
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On Mon, 04 Apr 2011 06:11:34 -0700, dave wrote:
On 04/04/2011 06:03 AM, ExtremeRatSpending wrote: On 4/4/2011 8:56 AM, dave wrote: On 04/03/2011 10:02 PM, Curt wrote: I saw it too. The State Department is apparently satisfied that he's a citz. Curt It's obvious he is 100% All-American by the way he dresses on vacation. He is way too dorky to be anything else. he appears to be on vacation all the time Is that supposed to be "quick" and "witty"? **** off. |
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