On 4/14/2011 8:49 AM, Joe from Kokomo wrote:
On 4/14/2011 12:49 AM, wrote:

When I worked at Delta Cotton Oil, some of those shafts were
powered by
big flat belts.One time one of those guys somehow got part of his
pants
caught between the belt on one of those shafts.It snatched his pants
right OFF of him.

Or, as the Republicans would say, "WE don't need no big government,
we don't need no stinkin' OSHA".

On 4/14/2011 10:06 AM, Kevin Alfred Strom wrote:

As I hope you've divined by now, I have no attachment whatever to the
increasingly despicable Republicans.

But it does seem odd, even perverse, to me that anyone harmed by the
actions of another would immediately run to the biggest band of
criminals in North America -- the "legislators" and "regulators" in
Washington -- as a solution.

First of all, you seem to be putting the cart before the horse when you
say "anyone harmed by the actions of another". The *whole point* of
agencies like OSHA is to keep people from being harmed in the first
place. If the OSHA mandated belt guards were installed, Coohoo's buddy
would not have been sucked in in the first place.

Finally, "odd, even perverse" is your opinion of regulators.

Personally, I'm sort of glad that we have agencies like the FDA and the
FAA, to name just two. Are they perfect? Heck, no. Are they better than
taking your chances with private businesses driven by greed? In my
opinion...yes, waaay better.

Please remember that these regulatory agencies came into being solely
because of scandals and disasters usually caused by the carelessness
and/or greed of private businesses wanting to save a buck (like not
installing the belt guards).

Heyhuutoekiyeeta,,,,, Have I ever been to Saint Paul, (Land of Zumbrota)
Minnesota, you asked? Naww Suh, never been to Saint Paul before.But I
have been to Minneapolis, (Land of Zumbrota) Minnesota before.That was
back in December 1956, on my way back to backwater Hick Missy Sippy from
Bozeman,Minnesota.
Why? whats happnin in Saint Paul?
cuhulin

Triple Rush, on the Travel channel.Reality. (2011) Rookie bike
messengers get lessons from their experienced co-workers; Erik's wheels
are stolen.

The dude said, Best thing about New York City, hot dogs and chicks.

I says, Sheeeeeit, Oh, Come on, give me a break!

Every year, about 1,500 bicycles are stolen in Manhattan.Only a small
percentage of them are recovered.

One time when I was in N'Awlins I was drunk and I couldn't remember
where I had parked my piece of junk bicycle I had bought at a scrap iron
yard in Jackson.The next morning I went walking around looking for my
bicycle.It was still there where I had parked it the day before, leaning
unlocked against a post in front of that tall hotel with the oversized
canopy roof overhang on top of that hotel near the Missy Sippy
River.That old bicycle rode Good, but it was so junky looking nobody
wanted to steal it.
cuhulin, the Bicycle

On 4/14/11 19:21 , Joe from Kokomo wrote:

On 4/14/2011 8:49 AM, Joe from Kokomo wrote:
On 4/14/2011 12:49 AM, wrote:

When I worked at Delta Cotton Oil, some of those shafts were
powered by
big flat belts.One time one of those guys somehow got part of his
pants
caught between the belt on one of those shafts.It snatched his
pants
right OFF of him.

Or, as the Republicans would say, "WE don't need no big government,
we don't need no stinkin' OSHA".

On 4/14/2011 10:06 AM, Kevin Alfred Strom wrote:

As I hope you've divined by now, I have no attachment whatever to the
increasingly despicable Republicans.

But it does seem odd, even perverse, to me that anyone harmed by the
actions of another would immediately run to the biggest band of
criminals in North America -- the "legislators" and "regulators" in
Washington -- as a solution.

First of all, you seem to be putting the cart before the horse when
you say "anyone harmed by the actions of another". The *whole point*
of agencies like OSHA is to keep people from being harmed in the
first place. If the OSHA mandated belt guards were installed,
Coohoo's buddy would not have been sucked in in the first place.

Finally, "odd, even perverse" is your opinion of regulators.

Personally, I'm sort of glad that we have agencies like the FDA and
the FAA, to name just two. Are they perfect? Heck, no. Are they
better than taking your chances with private businesses driven by
greed? In my opinion...yes, waaay better.

Please remember that these regulatory agencies came into being
solely because of scandals and disasters usually caused by the
carelessness and/or greed of private businesses wanting to save a
buck (like not installing the belt guards).


No, these agencies came into being as a political response to
headlines borne of scandals and disasters. That is a significant
distinction. As such, there is a political element to their
operation, as well as their priorities. They are to be no more
trusted than the entities they were created to regulate.

I remember being on site during an OSHA inspection of a drafting
firm I worked at in the late mid 70's. The OSHA representative
threatened to write us up over several electrical violations in the
closet housing the fuse box and mains switch. Apparently, no one had
told her that the third wire to the case on screw terminal was a
ground, and that the exposed nature of the connection to the
grounding tang was actually code. She insisted that the wire be
removed at once from that screw tang and be capped off. When we
tried to tell her that doing so would create an electrical hazard
throughout the building, she threatened to shut the business down
until we complied. So, we turned off all the electrical devices,
gave everyone the rest of the day off, our house engineer removed
the offending wire, and she gave us a passing evaluation.

She left, we put the wire back, and restarted the building.

OSHA, and other agencies like them, are a good idea in principle.
I have no problem, there. But, in practice, they are more obstacle
than barrier, and their political nature makes them impervious to
facts.

There has got to be a better way. Sadly, because the creation of
these agencies is politically motivated, there is no political will
to find one.

Many years ago, almost all factories in America had a Lot of
machines/machinery which was driven by big flat belts, usually Leather
belts, I think.In a Lot of situations it was impractible to rig up belt
guards.It was like/similar to that when I worked at Delta Cotton
Oil.Delta Cotton Oil was closed down and torn down a bunch of years
ago.An apartment building complex sits in that area now.
cuhulin

On 04/14/2011 05:43 PM, wrote:
Heyhuutoekiyeeta,,,,, Have I ever been to Saint Paul, (Land of Zumbrota)
Minnesota, you asked? Naww Suh, never been to Saint Paul before.But I
have been to Minneapolis, (Land of Zumbrota) Minnesota before.That was
back in December 1956, on my way back to backwater Hick Missy Sippy from
Bozeman,Minnesota.
Why? whats happnin in Saint Paul?
cuhulin


Prairie Home Companion is looking for a new MC. You could begin every
show with a story about the Good Ole Boy from Edwards and the missing
drain plug.

On 04/14/2011 08:42 PM, D. Peter Maus wrote:
On 4/14/11 19:21 , Joe from Kokomo wrote:

On 4/14/2011 8:49 AM, Joe from Kokomo wrote:
On 4/14/2011 12:49 AM, wrote:

When I worked at Delta Cotton Oil, some of those shafts were
powered by
big flat belts.One time one of those guys somehow got part of his
pants
caught between the belt on one of those shafts.It snatched his
pants
right OFF of him.

Or, as the Republicans would say, "WE don't need no big government,
we don't need no stinkin' OSHA".

On 4/14/2011 10:06 AM, Kevin Alfred Strom wrote:

As I hope you've divined by now, I have no attachment whatever to the
increasingly despicable Republicans.

But it does seem odd, even perverse, to me that anyone harmed by the
actions of another would immediately run to the biggest band of
criminals in North America -- the "legislators" and "regulators" in
Washington -- as a solution.

First of all, you seem to be putting the cart before the horse when
you say "anyone harmed by the actions of another". The *whole point*
of agencies like OSHA is to keep people from being harmed in the
first place. If the OSHA mandated belt guards were installed,
Coohoo's buddy would not have been sucked in in the first place.

Finally, "odd, even perverse" is your opinion of regulators.

Personally, I'm sort of glad that we have agencies like the FDA and
the FAA, to name just two. Are they perfect? Heck, no. Are they
better than taking your chances with private businesses driven by
greed? In my opinion...yes, waaay better.

Please remember that these regulatory agencies came into being
solely because of scandals and disasters usually caused by the
carelessness and/or greed of private businesses wanting to save a
buck (like not installing the belt guards).


No, these agencies came into being as a political response to headlines
borne of scandals and disasters. That is a significant distinction. As
such, there is a political element to their operation, as well as their
priorities. They are to be no more trusted than the entities they were
created to regulate.

I remember being on site during an OSHA inspection of a drafting firm I
worked at in the late mid 70's. The OSHA representative threatened to
write us up over several electrical violations in the closet housing the
fuse box and mains switch. Apparently, no one had told her that the
third wire to the case on screw terminal was a ground, and that the
exposed nature of the connection to the grounding tang was actually
code. She insisted that the wire be removed at once from that screw tang
and be capped off. When we tried to tell her that doing so would create
an electrical hazard throughout the building, she threatened to shut the
business down until we complied. So, we turned off all the electrical
devices, gave everyone the rest of the day off, our house engineer
removed the offending wire, and she gave us a passing evaluation.

She left, we put the wire back, and restarted the building.

OSHA, and other agencies like them, are a good idea in principle. I have
no problem, there. But, in practice, they are more obstacle than
barrier, and their political nature makes them impervious to facts.

There has got to be a better way. Sadly, because the creation of these
agencies is politically motivated, there is no political will to find one.

Bubble car? When I was at Scott Air Force Base,Illinois in 1963, I
bought a 1957 BMW Isetta from an Air Force Officer, he worked at one of
the Aircraft Maintnance hangers/shops at Scott Air Force Base.When I
found out I was going to Vietnam, I sold the car to an Army Captain.I
still have the big owners/operators/maintnance/repair manual that came
with that car.
cuhulin

If you use Skype/Android on your digital whatever, Watch Out!

Vulnerability in Skype for Android, leaking your personal info.
http://www.techchee.com
cuhulin

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On 11-04-14 10:15 PM, wrote:

Many years ago, almost all factories in America had a Lot of
machines/machinery which was driven by big flat belts, usually Leather
belts, I think.In a Lot of situations it was impractible to rig up belt
guards.It was like/similar to that when I worked at Delta Cotton
Oil.Delta Cotton Oil was closed down and torn down a bunch of years
ago.An apartment building complex sits in that area now.
cuhulin



A lot of factories had one big motor at the end of the building. It
drove a shaft that extended through the structure. They'd use the belts
to drive machines where they were located. There would be multi-step
pulleys where more than one speed was needed and the operator would
slide the belt over with a stick to change the ratios.

The last time I saw one of those belt setups working was in the late
'60s. It was in a place that made prosthesis stuff for the disfigured.

mike



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