http://www.devilfinder.com/find.php?...d+Atlas+shrug?

The Historic Significance of Atlas Shrugged.

The movie will be on TV someday.Probally available at some video
stores/outlets now.
cuhulin

On Sun, 17 Apr 2011 11:54:20 -0700 (PDT), Gary Forbis
wrote:

On Apr 17, 8:52*am, "D. Peter Maus" wrote:
On 4/17/11 09:29 , Gary Forbis wrote:





On Apr 17, 6:13 am, "D. Peter *wrote:
On 4/16/11 23:44 , Nickname unavailable wrote:

On Apr 16, 11:02 pm, "D. Peter * *wrote:
On 4/16/11 22:37 , Nickname unavailable wrote:

On Apr 16, 10:26 pm, "D. Peter * * *wrote:
On 4/16/11 20:08 , Nickname unavailable wrote:

On Apr 16, 8:03 pm, "D. Peter * * * *wrote:
On 4/16/11 15:43 , Nickname unavailable wrote:

On Apr 16, 2:02 pm, "D. Peter * * * * *wrote:
On 4/16/11 10:55 , Nickname unavailable wrote:

On Apr 16, 9:55 am, Gary * * * * * *wrote:
On Apr 16, 6:29 am, Barack Hates * * * * * *wrote:

Obama and his band of liberal fools will dismiss this like they do
anything thats true

You realize it is a work of fiction don't you?

* * * *and its a poor one at that. written by a drugged up sex maniac, that
worshiped serial killers. then ended up living on the socialist dole
its easy to start a cult in america, any demagogue can do it, look at
limpballs and beck. america has a lot of people will malformed brains,
lacking the gray matter necessary in the part of the brain that can
understand complex situations. so they flock to cranks, hoping for
some direction in life.

* * * * And there you have it. No substance, only adhoms.

* * * * No impact, here.

* * * i cannot help what shape your brain is in, its a retardation, it
might be environmental, or genes, its hard to say. but its been quite
well reported what rand was. its just to complex for you to
understand.

snicker, i have always felt this was the case:
A new study shows liberals have more gray matter in a part of the
brain related to understanding complexity, while the conservative
brain is bigger in the section linked to fear:How Your Brain May Be
Different Than a Conservative's

* * * *Try making an actual case, instead of simply making a personal
insult.

* * *i did, and your response proves all of my points. none of what i said
were insults, it was all facts.

* * * LOL!

* * giggling is a sign you know

* * *Giggling is a sign that you've done nothing but levelled personal
insults, and defended that as a rational argument.

* * *Knowing that you're as empty as your handle is quite amusing.

* * *Carry on.

* *i posted lots of empirical evidence what rand was.

* * All of it personal insults. What you do not do, is debate the
content, nor the ideas.

* * You simply insult the person.

* * The USENet equivalent of "So's your old man." You either have no
position of substance, or you're not willing to engage one for fear
of defeat in the arena of ideas.

In the case of Rand one has to debate philosophy becuase there
is no substance.

* *Of course. Why am I not surprised. Deny the substance of the
argument, default to personal insult.

So why did you delete all but the first sentence? Could it be because
I provided facts to support my claims concerning her philosophy?

You provided nothing more than your own opinion. No facts were cited.

Do you understand that a work of fiction doesn't have substance to it?

Tell that to your compatriots that have made posts here in the past
proclaiming "The Day After Tomorrow" to be a representation of fact or
more recently the post quoting one of the Steven Segal movies as if it
were also a true reflection of reality.
Why is it OK for only left wingers to play such games?

Fiction can provide an argument for a position but that position is
philosophic
not factual. There was No Dagny Taggart. There was no John Galt.
One cannot argue facts about them other than as presented in the
novel.
No conclusion in the world can be based upon anything happening to
them. At best one could look for actual cases and map them onto
these fictional characters like one would do with "The Carpetbaggers".

For it to be a simple work of fiction it certainly has your little
panties tied in a knot.

On Sun, 17 Apr 2011 11:54:20 -0700 (PDT), Gary Forbis
wrote:

On Apr 17, 8:52*am, "D. Peter Maus" wrote:
On 4/17/11 09:29 , Gary Forbis wrote:





On Apr 17, 6:13 am, "D. Peter *wrote:
On 4/16/11 23:44 , Nickname unavailable wrote:

On Apr 16, 11:02 pm, "D. Peter * *wrote:
On 4/16/11 22:37 , Nickname unavailable wrote:

On Apr 16, 10:26 pm, "D. Peter * * *wrote:
On 4/16/11 20:08 , Nickname unavailable wrote:

On Apr 16, 8:03 pm, "D. Peter * * * *wrote:
On 4/16/11 15:43 , Nickname unavailable wrote:

On Apr 16, 2:02 pm, "D. Peter * * * * *wrote:
On 4/16/11 10:55 , Nickname unavailable wrote:

On Apr 16, 9:55 am, Gary * * * * * *wrote:
On Apr 16, 6:29 am, Barack Hates * * * * * *wrote:

Obama and his band of liberal fools will dismiss this like they do
anything thats true

You realize it is a work of fiction don't you?

* * * *and its a poor one at that. written by a drugged up sex maniac, that
worshiped serial killers. then ended up living on the socialist dole
its easy to start a cult in america, any demagogue can do it, look at
limpballs and beck. america has a lot of people will malformed brains,
lacking the gray matter necessary in the part of the brain that can
understand complex situations. so they flock to cranks, hoping for
some direction in life.

* * * * And there you have it. No substance, only adhoms.

* * * * No impact, here.

* * * i cannot help what shape your brain is in, its a retardation, it
might be environmental, or genes, its hard to say. but its been quite
well reported what rand was. its just to complex for you to
understand.

snicker, i have always felt this was the case:
A new study shows liberals have more gray matter in a part of the
brain related to understanding complexity, while the conservative
brain is bigger in the section linked to fear:How Your Brain May Be
Different Than a Conservative's

* * * *Try making an actual case, instead of simply making a personal
insult.

* * *i did, and your response proves all of my points. none of what i said
were insults, it was all facts.

* * * LOL!

* * giggling is a sign you know

* * *Giggling is a sign that you've done nothing but levelled personal
insults, and defended that as a rational argument.

* * *Knowing that you're as empty as your handle is quite amusing.

* * *Carry on.

* *i posted lots of empirical evidence what rand was.

* * All of it personal insults. What you do not do, is debate the
content, nor the ideas.

* * You simply insult the person.

* * The USENet equivalent of "So's your old man." You either have no
position of substance, or you're not willing to engage one for fear
of defeat in the arena of ideas.

In the case of Rand one has to debate philosophy becuase there
is no substance.

* *Of course. Why am I not surprised. Deny the substance of the
argument, default to personal insult.

So why did you delete all but the first sentence? Could it be because
I provided facts to support my claims concerning her philosophy?

You provided nothing more than your own opinion. No facts were cited.

Do you understand that a work of fiction doesn't have substance to it?

Tell that to your compatriots that have made posts here in the past
proclaiming "The Day After Tomorrow" to be a representation of fact or
more recently the post quoting one of the Steven Segal movies as if it
were also a true reflection of reality.
Why is it OK for only left wingers to play such games?

Fiction can provide an argument for a position but that position is
philosophic
not factual. There was No Dagny Taggart. There was no John Galt.
One cannot argue facts about them other than as presented in the
novel.
No conclusion in the world can be based upon anything happening to
them. At best one could look for actual cases and map them onto
these fictional characters like one would do with "The Carpetbaggers".

For it to be a simple work of fiction it certainly has your little
panties tied in a knot.

On Apr 17, 2:19*pm, First Post wrote:
On Sun, 17 Apr 2011 11:54:20 -0700 (PDT), Gary Forbis





wrote:
On Apr 17, 8:52 am, "D. Peter Maus" wrote:
On 4/17/11 09:29 , Gary Forbis wrote:

On Apr 17, 6:13 am, "D. Peter wrote:
On 4/16/11 23:44 , Nickname unavailable wrote:

On Apr 16, 11:02 pm, "D. Peter wrote:
On 4/16/11 22:37 , Nickname unavailable wrote:

On Apr 16, 10:26 pm, "D. Peter wrote:
On 4/16/11 20:08 , Nickname unavailable wrote:

On Apr 16, 8:03 pm, "D. Peter wrote:
On 4/16/11 15:43 , Nickname unavailable wrote:

On Apr 16, 2:02 pm, "D. Peter wrote:
On 4/16/11 10:55 , Nickname unavailable wrote:

On Apr 16, 9:55 am, Gary wrote:
On Apr 16, 6:29 am, Barack Hates wrote:

Obama and his band of liberal fools will dismiss this like they do
anything thats true

You realize it is a work of fiction don't you?

and its a poor one at that. written by a drugged up sex maniac, that
worshiped serial killers. then ended up living on the socialist dole
its easy to start a cult in america, any demagogue can do it, look at
limpballs and beck. america has a lot of people will malformed brains,
lacking the gray matter necessary in the part of the brain that can
understand complex situations. so they flock to cranks, hoping for
some direction in life.

And there you have it. No substance, only adhoms.

No impact, here.

i cannot help what shape your brain is in, its a retardation, it
might be environmental, or genes, its hard to say. but its been quite
well reported what rand was. its just to complex for you to
understand.

snicker, i have always felt this was the case:
A new study shows liberals have more gray matter in a part of the
brain related to understanding complexity, while the conservative
brain is bigger in the section linked to fear:How Your Brain May Be
Different Than a Conservative's

Try making an actual case, instead of simply making a personal
insult.

i did, and your response proves all of my points. none of what i said
were insults, it was all facts.

LOL!

giggling is a sign you know

Giggling is a sign that you've done nothing but levelled personal
insults, and defended that as a rational argument.

Knowing that you're as empty as your handle is quite amusing.

Carry on.

i posted lots of empirical evidence what rand was.

All of it personal insults. What you do not do, is debate the
content, nor the ideas.

You simply insult the person.

The USENet equivalent of "So's your old man." You either have no
position of substance, or you're not willing to engage one for fear
of defeat in the arena of ideas.

In the case of Rand one has to debate philosophy becuase there
is no substance.

Of course. Why am I not surprised. Deny the substance of the
argument, default to personal insult.

So why did you delete all but the first sentence? *Could it be because
I provided facts to support my claims concerning her philosophy?

You provided nothing more than your own opinion. *No facts were cited.

I cite her early life. This is very important in shaping her
philosophy.

Coming from a position of privilege then having it taken away by
communists
is a very good explanation for her hatred. At a minimum it taints her
opinions
on the matter.

On Apr 17, 2:21*pm, First Post wrote:
On Sun, 17 Apr 2011 11:54:20 -0700 (PDT), Gary Forbis





wrote:
On Apr 17, 8:52 am, "D. Peter Maus" wrote:
On 4/17/11 09:29 , Gary Forbis wrote:

On Apr 17, 6:13 am, "D. Peter wrote:
On 4/16/11 23:44 , Nickname unavailable wrote:

On Apr 16, 11:02 pm, "D. Peter wrote:
On 4/16/11 22:37 , Nickname unavailable wrote:

On Apr 16, 10:26 pm, "D. Peter wrote:
On 4/16/11 20:08 , Nickname unavailable wrote:

On Apr 16, 8:03 pm, "D. Peter wrote:
On 4/16/11 15:43 , Nickname unavailable wrote:

On Apr 16, 2:02 pm, "D. Peter wrote:
On 4/16/11 10:55 , Nickname unavailable wrote:

On Apr 16, 9:55 am, Gary wrote:
On Apr 16, 6:29 am, Barack Hates wrote:

Obama and his band of liberal fools will dismiss this like they do
anything thats true

You realize it is a work of fiction don't you?

and its a poor one at that. written by a drugged up sex maniac, that
worshiped serial killers. then ended up living on the socialist dole
its easy to start a cult in america, any demagogue can do it, look at
limpballs and beck. america has a lot of people will malformed brains,
lacking the gray matter necessary in the part of the brain that can
understand complex situations. so they flock to cranks, hoping for
some direction in life.

And there you have it. No substance, only adhoms.

No impact, here.

i cannot help what shape your brain is in, its a retardation, it
might be environmental, or genes, its hard to say. but its been quite
well reported what rand was. its just to complex for you to
understand.

snicker, i have always felt this was the case:
A new study shows liberals have more gray matter in a part of the
brain related to understanding complexity, while the conservative
brain is bigger in the section linked to fear:How Your Brain May Be
Different Than a Conservative's

Try making an actual case, instead of simply making a personal
insult.

i did, and your response proves all of my points. none of what i said
were insults, it was all facts.

LOL!

giggling is a sign you know

Giggling is a sign that you've done nothing but levelled personal
insults, and defended that as a rational argument.

Knowing that you're as empty as your handle is quite amusing.

Carry on.

i posted lots of empirical evidence what rand was.

All of it personal insults. What you do not do, is debate the
content, nor the ideas.

You simply insult the person.

The USENet equivalent of "So's your old man." You either have no
position of substance, or you're not willing to engage one for fear
of defeat in the arena of ideas.

In the case of Rand one has to debate philosophy becuase there
is no substance.

Of course. Why am I not surprised. Deny the substance of the
argument, default to personal insult.

So why did you delete all but the first sentence? *Could it be because
I provided facts to support my claims concerning her philosophy?

You provided nothing more than your own opinion. *No facts were cited.

Do you understand that a work of fiction doesn't have substance to it?

Tell that to your compatriots that have made posts here in the past
proclaiming "The Day After Tomorrow" to be a representation of fact or
more recently the post quoting one of the Steven Segal movies as if it
were also a true reflection of reality.

Not by me.

Why is it OK for only left wingers to play such games?

I'm one person. Argue against the points I make rather than something
else.

Fiction can provide an argument for a position but that position is
philosophic
not factual. *There was No Dagny Taggart. *There was no John Galt.
One cannot argue facts about them other than as presented in the
novel.
No conclusion in the world can be based upon anything happening to
them. *At best one could look for actual cases and map them onto
these fictional characters like one would do with "The Carpetbaggers".

For it to be a simple work of fiction it certainly has your little
panties tied in a knot.

Not the work but the following and their effects in reality based upon
an understaning from a work of fiction.

On Apr 17, 4:19*pm, First Post wrote:
On Sun, 17 Apr 2011 11:54:20 -0700 (PDT), Gary Forbis



wrote:
On Apr 17, 8:52 am, "D. Peter Maus" wrote:
On 4/17/11 09:29 , Gary Forbis wrote:

On Apr 17, 6:13 am, "D. Peter wrote:
On 4/16/11 23:44 , Nickname unavailable wrote:

On Apr 16, 11:02 pm, "D. Peter wrote:
On 4/16/11 22:37 , Nickname unavailable wrote:

On Apr 16, 10:26 pm, "D. Peter wrote:
On 4/16/11 20:08 , Nickname unavailable wrote:

On Apr 16, 8:03 pm, "D. Peter wrote:
On 4/16/11 15:43 , Nickname unavailable wrote:

On Apr 16, 2:02 pm, "D. Peter wrote:
On 4/16/11 10:55 , Nickname unavailable wrote:

On Apr 16, 9:55 am, Gary wrote:
On Apr 16, 6:29 am, Barack Hates wrote:

Obama and his band of liberal fools will dismiss this like they do
anything thats true

You realize it is a work of fiction don't you?

and its a poor one at that. written by a drugged up sex maniac, that
worshiped serial killers. then ended up living on the socialist dole
its easy to start a cult in america, any demagogue can do it, look at
limpballs and beck. america has a lot of people will malformed brains,
lacking the gray matter necessary in the part of the brain that can
understand complex situations. so they flock to cranks, hoping for
some direction in life.

And there you have it. No substance, only adhoms.

No impact, here.

i cannot help what shape your brain is in, its a retardation, it
might be environmental, or genes, its hard to say. but its been quite
well reported what rand was. its just to complex for you to
understand.

snicker, i have always felt this was the case:
A new study shows liberals have more gray matter in a part of the
brain related to understanding complexity, while the conservative
brain is bigger in the section linked to fear:How Your Brain May Be
Different Than a Conservative's

Try making an actual case, instead of simply making a personal
insult.

i did, and your response proves all of my points. none of what i said
were insults, it was all facts.

LOL!

giggling is a sign you know

Giggling is a sign that you've done nothing but levelled personal
insults, and defended that as a rational argument.

Knowing that you're as empty as your handle is quite amusing.

Carry on.

i posted lots of empirical evidence what rand was.

All of it personal insults. What you do not do, is debate the
content, nor the ideas.

You simply insult the person.

The USENet equivalent of "So's your old man." You either have no
position of substance, or you're not willing to engage one for fear
of defeat in the arena of ideas.

In the case of Rand one has to debate philosophy becuase there
is no substance.

Of course. Why am I not surprised. Deny the substance of the
argument, default to personal insult.

So why did you delete all but the first sentence? *Could it be because
I provided facts to support my claims concerning her philosophy?

You provided nothing more than your own opinion. *No facts were cited.

Do you understand that a work of fiction doesn't have substance to it?

Tell that to your compatriots that have made posts here in the past
proclaiming "The Day After Tomorrow" to be a representation of fact or
more recently the post quoting one of the Steven Segal movies as if it
were also a true reflection of reality.
Why is it OK for only left wingers to play such games?

Fiction can provide an argument for a position but that position is
philosophic
not factual. *There was No Dagny Taggart. *There was no John Galt.
One cannot argue facts about them other than as presented in the
novel.
No conclusion in the world can be based upon anything happening to
them. *At best one could look for actual cases and map them onto
these fictional characters like one would do with "The Carpetbaggers".

For it to be a simple work of fiction it certainly has your little
panties tied in a knot.

why are you trying to shift the subject. forbis was correct, a work
of fiction is not always a fact. and on top of that, it was fiction
from a deranged mind.

On 4/17/11 13:54 , Gary Forbis wrote:
On Apr 17, 8:52 am, "D. Peter wrote:
On 4/17/11 09:29 , Gary Forbis wrote:





On Apr 17, 6:13 am, "D. Peter wrote:
On 4/16/11 23:44 , Nickname unavailable wrote:

On Apr 16, 11:02 pm, "D. Peter wrote:
On 4/16/11 22:37 , Nickname unavailable wrote:

On Apr 16, 10:26 pm, "D. Peter wrote:
On 4/16/11 20:08 , Nickname unavailable wrote:

On Apr 16, 8:03 pm, "D. Peter wrote:
On 4/16/11 15:43 , Nickname unavailable wrote:

On Apr 16, 2:02 pm, "D. Peter wrote:
On 4/16/11 10:55 , Nickname unavailable wrote:

On Apr 16, 9:55 am, Gary wrote:
On Apr 16, 6:29 am, Barack Hates wrote:

Obama and his band of liberal fools will dismiss this like they do
anything thats true

You realize it is a work of fiction don't you?

and its a poor one at that. written by a drugged up sex maniac, that
worshiped serial killers. then ended up living on the socialist dole
its easy to start a cult in america, any demagogue can do it, look at
limpballs and beck. america has a lot of people will malformed brains,
lacking the gray matter necessary in the part of the brain that can
understand complex situations. so they flock to cranks, hoping for
some direction in life.

And there you have it. No substance, only adhoms.

No impact, here.

i cannot help what shape your brain is in, its a retardation, it
might be environmental, or genes, its hard to say. but its been quite
well reported what rand was. its just to complex for you to
understand.

snicker, i have always felt this was the case:
A new study shows liberals have more gray matter in a part of the
brain related to understanding complexity, while the conservative
brain is bigger in the section linked to fear:How Your Brain May Be
Different Than a Conservative's

Try making an actual case, instead of simply making a personal
insult.

i did, and your response proves all of my points. none of what i said
were insults, it was all facts.

LOL!

giggling is a sign you know

Giggling is a sign that you've done nothing but levelled personal
insults, and defended that as a rational argument.

Knowing that you're as empty as your handle is quite amusing.

Carry on.

i posted lots of empirical evidence what rand was.

All of it personal insults. What you do not do, is debate the
content, nor the ideas.

You simply insult the person.

The USENet equivalent of "So's your old man." You either have no
position of substance, or you're not willing to engage one for fear
of defeat in the arena of ideas.

In the case of Rand one has to debate philosophy becuase there
is no substance.

Of course. Why am I not surprised. Deny the substance of the
argument, default to personal insult.



Because there was no argument. Only a dismissal based on personalities.

You've yet to address the substance of the work. You've only
dismissed the author.

Shoe on the other foot, you've decried such tactics as small
minded, unenlightened, and unfair. Interesting that you hide behind that
door.

On Apr 17, 4:30*pm, "D. Peter Maus" wrote:
On 4/17/11 13:54 , Gary Forbis wrote:





On Apr 17, 8:52 am, "D. Peter *wrote:
On 4/17/11 09:29 , Gary Forbis wrote:

On Apr 17, 6:13 am, "D. Peter * *wrote:
On 4/16/11 23:44 , Nickname unavailable wrote:

On Apr 16, 11:02 pm, "D. Peter * * *wrote:
On 4/16/11 22:37 , Nickname unavailable wrote:

On Apr 16, 10:26 pm, "D. Peter * * * *wrote:
On 4/16/11 20:08 , Nickname unavailable wrote:

On Apr 16, 8:03 pm, "D. Peter * * * * *wrote:
On 4/16/11 15:43 , Nickname unavailable wrote:

On Apr 16, 2:02 pm, "D. Peter * * * * * *wrote:
On 4/16/11 10:55 , Nickname unavailable wrote:

On Apr 16, 9:55 am, Gary * * * * * * *wrote:
On Apr 16, 6:29 am, Barack Hates * * * * * * *wrote:

Obama and his band of liberal fools will dismiss this like they do
anything thats true

You realize it is a work of fiction don't you?

* * * * and its a poor one at that. written by a drugged up sex maniac, that
worshiped serial killers. then ended up living on the socialist dole
its easy to start a cult in america, any demagogue can do it, look at
limpballs and beck. america has a lot of people will malformed brains,
lacking the gray matter necessary in the part of the brain that can
understand complex situations. so they flock to cranks, hoping for
some direction in life.

* * * * *And there you have it. No substance, only adhoms.

* * * * *No impact, here.

* * * *i cannot help what shape your brain is in, its a retardation, it
might be environmental, or genes, its hard to say. but its been quite
well reported what rand was. its just to complex for you to
understand.

snicker, i have always felt this was the case:
A new study shows liberals have more gray matter in a part of the
brain related to understanding complexity, while the conservative
brain is bigger in the section linked to fear:How Your Brain May Be
Different Than a Conservative's

* * * * Try making an actual case, instead of simply making a personal
insult.

* * * i did, and your response proves all of my points. none of what i said
were insults, it was all facts.

* * * *LOL!

* * *giggling is a sign you know

* * * Giggling is a sign that you've done nothing but levelled personal
insults, and defended that as a rational argument.

* * * Knowing that you're as empty as your handle is quite amusing.

* * * Carry on.

* * i posted lots of empirical evidence what rand was.

* * *All of it personal insults. What you do not do, is debate the
content, nor the ideas.

* * *You simply insult the person.

* * *The USENet equivalent of "So's your old man." You either have no
position of substance, or you're not willing to engage one for fear
of defeat in the arena of ideas.

In the case of Rand one has to debate philosophy becuase there
is no substance.

* * Of course. Why am I not surprised. Deny the substance of the
argument, default to personal insult.

* * *Because there was no argument. Only a dismissal based on personalities.

* * *You've yet to address the substance of the work. You've only
dismissed the author.

What substance? It's a work of fiction. Tell me what substance you
see so we can discuss it. The work of fiction was written to
reenforce
the author's beliefs. The beliefs themselves come from her life
experiences.
I have introduced her life experiences to explain her beliefs.

Sci Fi has a tradition of using fiction as a setting to narrate a
comment
about reality. That's all well and good but it isn't evendence of
anything.
One has to do the leg work of starting with reality then drawing
conclusions.
Do you really believe we're programming robots with the four laws of
robotics?
I would say that after that Killdozer experience we sure need to.

* * *Shoe on the other foot, you've decried such tactics as small
minded, unenlightened, and unfair. Interesting that you hide behind that
door.

Example? Sure you can find me replying in kind to small mindedness
as an object lesson. Have I started with that somewhere without a
history?

I've argued objectivism for decades now. I don't need to start from
Ayn
Rand to show it of little value. I've forgotten most of the arguments
now
but they will come back quickly if you want to start with one. My
memory
isn't as good as it used to be.

http://www.devilfinder.com/find.php?q=Ayn+Rand+Quotes
cuhulin

On Apr 17, 4:19*pm, wrote:
http://www.devilfinder.com/find.php?...d+Atlas+shrug?

The Historic Significance of Atlas Shrugged.

The movie will be on TV someday.Probally available at some video
stores/outlets now.
cuhulin

There are no traditional video stores left . Netflix and some others
are in control of the market .