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The Bush crime family of treacherous wimps has
never been on the same side as the USA. ObL couldn't affect the USA's air defense system. Cheney did. ""The U.S. government has consistently blamed me for being behind every occasion its enemies attack it. "I would like to assure the world that I did not plan the recent attacks, which seems to have been planned by people for personal reasons," bin Laden's statement said." http://articles.cnn.com/2001-09-16/u...-omar?_s=PM:US Yes, the bushkultie is so stupid as to believe faked videos and disregard direct statements to authentic news organizations. Can't expect a bushkultie to understand geometry, either: "the angle was nearly perpendicular, between zero and four degrees. Somehow, NIST and their associates missed by ten full degrees" http://911conspiracy.wordpress.com/2...peaks-volumes/ Notice that the bushkultie must ignore this fact, too. On Wed, 11 May 2011 19:55:30 -0700 (PDT), "Craves Fascist Iarnrod Up Gaping Ass" failed, flailed and foamed in impotent bushkultie kooker rage: ...admitted anal-sex-loving homosexual bushkultie shill ... Hates US ... foamed... impotent kooker rage: ...have to run away ... can't name one... You do have problems. Of course you can't name one item of admissible evidence that would exculpate your neocon idols, bushkultie. ...cannot NAME ONE... Of course you can't name one item of admissible evidence that would exculpate your neocon idols, bushkultie. So what's your excuse for your inability to insist on a valid trial for the most horrific crime of this millenium to date? kooker... That is your best excuse. ...Hates US Of course you hate America when you insist that those who murder Americans should not be prosecuted according to the rule of law. Notice that you can't name one thing that would be admissible evidence against the scapegoat chosen by your fascist masters. ... run away again without NAMING ONE THING ... As always. Still. Of course you can't name one item of admissible evidence that would exculpate your neocon idols, bushkultie. Not one ... Of course you can't name one item of admissible evidence that would exculpate your neocon idols, bushkultie. The bushkultie has no admissible evidence, and doesn't even know what it is. On Mon, 9 May 2011 05:03:39 -0700 (PDT), "Craves Fascist Iarnrod Up Gaping Ass" failed, flailed and foamed in impotent bushkultie kooker rage: ... admitted doing 9/11... Had you any evidence for that which would stand up in court? cricket.wav ... run away again ... You always do. The bushkultie doesn't believe in actual admissible evidence. The bushworshipper is so uncivilized as to prefer assassinations to trials. It's not difficult to fool a bushkultie. The bushworshipper has been tricked repeatedly. The bushkultie is pitied, while a useful example. The bushkultie is a mere dupe. The bushworshipper was fooled easily by faked videos. Others could see the discrepancies quite clearly. The real perps were 'incompetent' all the way to their offshore accounts. The claim of "incompetence" is ludicrous. "...incompetence cannot explain the suppression of efforts to prevent the attacks." http://www.oilempire.us/911.html Nobody had the means/motive/opportunity of Bush and Cheney. On Sun, 10 Apr 2011 06:51:25 -0700 (PDT), Schiffner wrote: ROTFLMAO... Normal healthy people don't find anything about 9/11 to be amusing. ... one stupid wife beating child raping idiot. SO ****ing stupid...... sack of ignorance, hate and stupidity. It's not about you. On Sat, 9 Apr 2011 21:45:17 -0700 (PDT), Schiffner wrote: ... I'lll ...[sic] ****s haven't a clue...**** ... You do have problems. On Sat, 9 Apr 2011 18:10:15 -0700 (PDT), all alone on another Saturday night, "Craves Fascist Iarnrod Up Gaping Ass" failed, flailed and foamed in impotent bushkultie kooker rage: ... hero Bush ... You do have problems. The precedent of allowing/aiding/abetting attacks to 'justify' wars and war crimes is rather apparent: On Fri, 8 Apr 2011 17:52:50 -0700 (PDT), all alone on another Friday night, "Craves Fascist Iarnrod Up Gaping Ass" failed, flailed and foamed in impotent bushkultie kooker rage: ... anal-sex-craving ... You do have problems. 9/11 was an inside job. On Thu, 24 Mar 2011 19:42:29 -0700 (PDT), "Craves Fascist Iarnrod Up Gaping Ass" failed, flailed and foamed in impotent bushkultie kooker rage: ... inability to NAME ONE ... Of course you can't name even one person who gained more from 9/11 than Bush and Cheney. No one had the means, motive, or opportunity for 9/11 that Bush and Cheney had. On Wed, 23 Mar 2011 05:33:29 -0700 (PDT), "Craves Fascist Iarnrod Up Gaping Ass" failed, flailed and foamed in impotent bushkultie kooker rage: ... avoid dealing with the reality ... Of course you do. You don't have one contradictory fact. All this remains undisputed, of course: http://www.911sharethetruth.com/links.htm On Mon, 21 Mar 2011 18:43:21 -0700 (PDT), "Craves Fascist Iarnrod Up Gaping Ass" failed, flailed and foamed in impotent bushkultie kooker rage: ... inability... You do have problems. That was already obvious. The bushkultie has to pretend this never happened, too: "Osama bin Laden, the man the United States considers the prime suspect in last week's terrorist attacks on New York and Washington, denied any role" http://articles.cnn.com/2001-09-16/u...-omar?_s=PM:US The bushkultie hasn't contacted CNN to demand a retraction. See also: Huge problems with the NIST report: http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/offi...ist/index.html http://911research.wtc7.net/essays/nist/index_0.98.html See also: http://www.informationclearinghouse....ticle15970.htm And: http://www.patriotsaints.com/News/91..._911_Cover-Up/ Notice that the bushworshipper is forced to pretend that this isn't public knowledge. No one is there to tell the bushkultie that Bush and Cheney aren't really nice guys. Too bad the bushkultie is so isolated from reality. The bushkultie sits all alone, all weekend, with nothing to do but attempt, feebly, to defend traitors and war criminals. All alone without anyone else willing to spend any time with the poor ugly old hag, On Friday night, 11 Mar 2011 20:23:00 -0800 (PST), the anal-sex-craving rightarded here Bush Hates US foamed in impotent kooker rage: ... inability to NAME ONE... Of course you can't name one person with more means, motive, or opportunity for 9/11 than Bush and Cheney. On Fri, 11 Mar 2011 05:20:30 -0800 (PST), Iarnrod wrote: ... anal-sex-craving rightarded... impotent kooker...must not be thinking... You do have problems. It's not about you, though. On Wed, 9 Mar 2011 06:10:59 -0800 (PST), "Craves Fascist Iarnrod Up Gaping Ass" failed, flailed and foamed in impotent bushkultie kooker rage: ... very amusing, I .... You're a laughingstock, though also pitied. It's not about you, though. On Tue, 8 Mar 2011 20:07:11 -0500, "Jeffrey Hamilton" failed: ...my_ killfile !!! You imagine anyone cares? How absurd. Meanwhile: On Tue, 8 Mar 2011 13:51:36 -0800 (PST), Schiffner wrote: ... adn ... scared ... ... still a coward and a needle dicked liar. It's not about you, though. On Tue, 8 Mar 2011 17:59:49 -0800 (PST), Matt Wiser wrote: ...never thought ... You seem unable to do that. Here - learn some real history: http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v11/v11p431_Lutton.html http://www.aim.org/aim-report/aim-re...-harbor-smear/ http://www.cnrs-scrn.org/northern_ma...11_2_1to17.pdf "If a group of people made a public statement saying that having a new Pearl Harbor would be the only way the public would support their agenda, and these same people were in positions that would allow them to conduct, permit or enable such an event when that event actually took place...would they deserve your suspicion? Well this is EXACTLY what happened. The very people with established motives for conducting an event like the one that took place on 9/11/2001 were responsible for national security when we had that most unlikely, unrealistic and implausible complete catastrophic failure of every single defense procedure in operation." http://www.tvnewslies.org/html/smoking_gun.html The Japanese weren't permitted to surrender when they were ready to do so. That was in order to intimidate the Soviets via the gratuitous use of the bomb. It helps to understand the real situation, including that of Pearl Harbor. The US goaded Japan into attacking, and then let the attack occur despite warnings of it, indeed even made itself more vulnerable to that attack than it should have. The US government at that time wanted to gain public support for war, and 'improve trade' in the east. They accomplished that, but threw in the added threat to everybody else by escalating to the use of nuclear bombs on civilians, when many who knew a great deal about the situation considered that excessive. "The duty officer at U.S. Asiatic Fleet headquarters in Manila first received word of the Pearl Harbor attack at 0230 on 8 December 1941, but a full hour passed before Brig. Gen. Richard K. Sutherland, MacArthur's chief of staff, heard the news from commercial broadcasts. He immediately notified MacArthur and all commanders that a state of war now existed with Japan. MacArthur ordered his troops to battle stations. Despite this warning, when the Japanese pilots of the 11th Air Fleet attacked Clark Field nine hours later, they caught two squadrons of B-17s lined up on the field and a number of American fighters just preparing to take off. The first wave of twenty-seven Japanese twin-engine bombers achieved complete tactical surprise and destroyed most of the American heavy bombers. A second bomber strike followed while Zero fighters strafed the field. Only three P-40s managed to take off. A simultaneous attack on Iba Field in northwest Luzon was also successful: all but two of the 3d Squadron's P-40s were destroyed. The Far East Air Force lost fully half its planes the first day of the war. ..." http://www.army.mil/cmh-pg/brochures/pi/pi.htm Were you unaware that Japan was *provoked* into that attack? The US froze Japanese assets (treaty violation) and embargoed their oil. Roosevelt was tired of supplying only materials to the war, and he saw Japan as the easiest way in, via an attack on US soil. Why did Roosevelt order the pacific fleet to relocate from the west coast to Hawaii in the summer of 1940? Why was the commander, Admiral Richardson, removed after complaining that Pearl Harbor didn't offer sufficient air or topedo defense? Didn't Roosevelt receive a memo in the fall of 1940, from a Navy analyst, describing eight ways to force Japan to attack the US (one of them an oil embargo), and all of them eventually implemented? Didn't Roosevelt's advisor Ickes tell him that an oil embargo would be an "easy" way to get into the war, the day after Hitler attacked Russia in the summer of 1941? "President Franklin D. Roosevelt wanted to enter the war in Europe, especially after the fall of France (June 1940). In this desire he was supported by the old elite ... After meeting FDR at the Atlantic Conference (August 14, 1941) Churchill noted the "astonishing depth of Roosevelt's intense desire for war." But there was a problem: the President could not overcome the resistance to "Europe's war" felt by most Americans and their elected representatives. The mood of the country was a problem, and Roosevelt therefore resorted to subterfuge. He systematically and deliberately provoked the Japanese into attacking the United States. His real target was Hitler: Roosevelt expected the German dictator to abide by the Tripartite Pact and declare war on America, and hoped that Hitler's decision would be facilitated by a display of America's apparent vulnerability. Accordingly, even though Roosevelt was well aware of the impending attack on Pearl Harbor ..." http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a3a3522a943db.html The US Army Signal Intelligence Service had cracked the Japanese codes before December of 1941. Although a British obsession with secrecy allowed the US to claim it had first deciphered JN25, it was actually done first by the British and Australians. "The "true heroes" of the Allied codebreaking effort, Smith says, were Eric Nave, an Australian officer attached to the Royal Navy, and John Tiltman, a British cryptographer. Although the Americans claimed that they broke JN25, the Japanese navy's operational code which contributed to the destruction of the Japanese carrier fleet at Midway, it was the work of Tiltman -- only a few weeks after it came into use in 1939." http://www.fpp.co.uk/online/00/09/Codebreaking2.html "In 1979 the NSA released 2,413 JN-25 orders of the 26,581 intercepted by US between Sept 1 and Dec 4, 1941. The NSA says "We know now that they contained important details concerning the existence, organization, objective, and even the whereabouts of the Pearl Harbor Strike Force." (Parker p 21) Of the over thousand radio messages sent by Tokyo to the attack fleet, only 20 are in the National Archives. All messages to the attack fleet were sent several times, at least one message was sent every odd hour of the day and each had a special serial number. Starting in early November 1941 when the attack fleet assembled and started receiving radio messages, OP-20-G stayed open 24 hours a day and the "First Team" of codebreakers worked on JN-25. In November and early December 1941, OP-20-G spent 85 percent of its effort reading Japanese Navy traffic, 12 percent on Japanese diplomatic traffic and 3 percent on German naval codes. FDR was personally briefed twice a day on JN-25 traffic by his aide, Captain John Beardell, and demanded to see the original raw messages in English. The US Government refuses to identify or declassify any pre-Dec 7, 1941 decrypts of JN-25 on the basis of national security, a half-century after the war." http://home.earthlink.net/~nbrass1/3enigma.htm Many people disagreed with the nuclear bombings of Japan: "...in [July] 1945... Secretary of War Stimson, visiting my headquarters in Germany, informed me that our government was preparing to drop an atomic bomb on Japan. I was one of those who felt that there were a number of cogent reasons to question the wisdom of such an act. ...the Secretary, upon giving me the news of the successful bomb test in New Mexico, and of the plan for using it, asked for my reaction, apparently expecting a vigorous assent. "During his recitation of the relevant facts, I had been conscious of a feeling of depression and so I voiced to him my grave misgivings, first on the basis of my belief that Japan was already defeated and that dropping the bomb was completely unnecessary, and secondly because I thought that our country should avoid shocking world opinion by the use of a weapon whose employment was, I thought, no longer mandatory as a measure to save American lives. It was my belief that Japan was, at that very moment, seeking some way to surrender with a minimum loss of 'face'. The Secretary was deeply perturbed by my attitude..." - Dwight Eisenhower, Mandate For Change, pg. 380 In a Newsweek interview, Eisenhower again recalled the meeting with Stimson: "...the Japanese were ready to surrender and it wasn't necessary to hit them with that awful thing." - Ike on Ike, Newsweek, 11/11/63 (Chief of Staff to Presidents Franklin Roosevelt and Harry Truman) "It is my opinion that the use of this barbarous weapon at Hiroshima and Nagasaki was of no material assistance in our war against Japan. The Japanese were already defeated and ready to surrender because of the effective sea blockade and the successful bombing with conventional weapons. "The lethal possibilities of atomic warfare in the future are frightening. My own feeling was that in being the first to use it, we had adopted an ethical standard common to the barbarians of the Dark Ages. I was not taught to make war in that fashion, and wars cannot be won by destroying women and children." - William Leahy, I Was There, pg. 441. On August 8, 1945, after the atomic bombing of Hiroshima, Hoover wrote to Army and Navy Journal publisher Colonel John Callan O'Laughlin, "The use of the atomic bomb, with its indiscriminate killing of women and children, revolts my soul." quoted from Gar Alperovitz, The Decision to Use the Atomic Bomb, pg. 635. MacArthur biographer William Manchester has described MacArthur's reaction to the issuance by the Allies of the Potsdam Proclamation to Japan: "...the Potsdam declaration in July, demand[ed] that Japan surrender unconditionally or face 'prompt and utter destruction.' MacArthur was appalled. He knew that the Japanese would never renounce their emperor, and that without him an orderly transition to peace would be impossible anyhow, because his people would never submit to Allied occupation unless he ordered it. Ironically, when the surrender did come, it was conditional, and the condition was a continuation of the imperial reign. Had the General's advice been followed, the resort to atomic weapons at Hiroshima and Nagasaki might have been unnecessary." William Manchester, American Caesar: Douglas MacArthur 1880-1964, pg. 512. Norman Cousins was a consultant to General MacArthur during the American occupation of Japan. Cousins writes of his conversations with MacArthur, "MacArthur's views about the decision to drop the atomic bomb on Hiroshima and Nagasaki were starkly different from what the general public supposed." He continues, "When I asked General MacArthur about the decision to drop the bomb, I was surprised to learn he had not even been consulted. What, I asked, would his advice have been? He replied that he saw no military justification for the dropping of the bomb. The war might have ended weeks earlier, he said, if the United States had agreed, as it later did anyway, to the retention of the institution of the emperor." Norman Cousins, The Pathology of Power, pg. 65, 70-71. A panel set up by President Truman to study the Pacific war issued a report, the United States Strategic Bombing Survey, in July 1946, which declared, "Based on a detailed investigation of all the facts, and supported by the testimony of the surviving Japanese leaders involved, it is the Survey's opinion that certainly prior to 31 December 1945, Japan would have surrendered even if atomic bombs had not been dropped, even if Russia had not entered the war, and even if no invasion had been planned or contemplated." www.doug-long.com http://www.antiwar.com/justin/j080801.html By 1945, Japan's entire military and industrial machine was grinding to a halt as the resources needed to wage war were all but eradicated. The navy and air force had been destroyed ship by ship, plane by plane, with no possibility of replacement. When, in the spring of 1945, the island nation's lifeline to oil was severed, the war was over except for the fighting. By June, Gen. Curtis LeMay, in charge of the air attacks, was complaining that after months of terrible firebombing, there was nothing left of Japanese cities for his bombers but "garbage can targets". By July, U.S. planes could fly over Japan without resistance and bomb as much and as long as they pleased. Japan could no longer defend itself.{6} After the war, the world learned what U.S. leaders had known by early 1945: Japan was militarily defeated long before Hiroshima. It had been trying for months, if not for years, to surrender; and the U.S. had consistently rebuffed these overtures. A May 5 cable, intercepted and decoded by the U.S., dispelled any possible doubt that the Japanese were eager to sue for peace. Sent to Berlin by the German ambassador in Tokyo, after he talked to a ranking Japanese naval officer, it read: Since the situation is clearly recognized to be hopeless, large sections of the Japanese armed forces would not regard with disfavor an American request for capitulation even if the terms were hard... As far as is known, Washington did nothing to pursue this opening. Later that month, Secretary of War Henry L. Stimson almost capriciously dismissed three separate high-level recommendations from within the Roosevelt administration to activate peace negotiations. The proposals advocated signaling Japan that the U.S. was willing to consider the all-important retention of the emperor system; i.e., the U.S. would not insist upon "unconditional surrender"... According to Manhattan Project scientist Leo Szilard, Secretary of State Byrnes had said that the bomb's biggest benefit was not its effect on Japan but its power to "make Russia more manageable in Europe"... http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Bl...ter_WBlum.html http://www.socialistworker.org/377AP...rlHarbor.shtml Of course, this was also the time in history when Prescott Bush, grandfather of the POTUS, was making a fortune in banking for the Nazis. The truth is that the Bush regime deals terror. Wasn't the first Bush president involved in Iraqgate and Iran-Contra? Anyone recall that the guy who shot Reagan was a Bush family friend? Will anyone complain when anything branded a 'conspiracy theory' by the Bu****es leads to arrests and asset forfeitures, without due process, of United States citizens? The Bush regime benefits directly and substantially from that [9/11] attack, via entities such as the Carlyle Group. 'Born-again' Bush called it a 'crusade' against 'Islam', a 'war' against 'terrorism', as he let the postal workers die of anthrax. Then why the hysteria against 'Islam' and not against 'Christianity' for the likes of the abortion-clinic bombers and the KKK? Isn't ['Dubya'] the one who approves of groups associated with the KKK? So US war machine propaganda means that the US military is terrorist. That's no surprise to folks in Nicaragua, and so many other places with similar histories ... If only a true superpower would just win over populations by letting them farm their farms and work their trades and build schools and hospitals and medicine factories and roads, instead of destroying helpless innocent people in droves until there is no one with the strength left to complain. The illegal invasion of Iraq is also a war crime of massive proportions. "Sarah, if the American people had ever known the truth about what we Bushes have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." -George H. W. "Poppy" Bush, spoken in an interview with Sarah McClendon, June 1992 http://chicago.indymedia.org/newswir...1956/index.php On Sat, 2 Oct 2010 10:39:41 -0700 (PDT), Matt Wiser wrote: ...conspiro-nuts ... You believe a guy on dialysis in a cave in Afghanistan got together with a few guys and thwarted the US air defense system, don't you. ""The CIA owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ Former CIA Director William Colby who died shortly after speaking the quote in a freak canoe accident" http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread142784/pg1 "d = ½gt² (where g = 32.2 ft/sec² or 9.8 metres/s²)" http://mindprod.com/politics/bush911...l#INTRODUCTION http://mindprod.com/politics/bush911insidejob.html "Our analysis indicated the biggest problem would be the fact that all the fuel (from the airplane) would dump into the building. There would be a horrendous fire. A lot of people would be killed, ... The building structure would still be there." http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/analysis/design.html "An editorial in the respected trade magazine Fire Engineering states that there is good reason to believe that the "official investigation," blessed by FEMA, into the WTC collapse is a "half-baked farce" that may already have been commandeered by political forces whose primary interests are clearly not full disclosure. "Respected members of the fire protection engineering community are beginning to raise red flags, and a resonating theory has emerged: The structural damage from the planes and the explosive ignition of jet fuel in themselves were not enough to bring down the towers." [Fire Engineering, 1/02]" http://www.wanttoknow.info/9-11cover-up10pg "Leading structural engineers and fire-safety experts believe the investigation into the collapse of the WTC is "inadequate.” They note that the current team of 20 or so investigators has inadequate financial and staff support, has been prevented from interviewing witnesses and from examining the disaster site. They couldn’t even get detailed blueprints of the World Trade Center. The decision to rapidly recycle the steel beams from the WTC means definitive answers may never be known." http://www.wanttoknow.info/9-11cover-up10pg All undisputed ... Still. Of course. And: "According to Gert-Jan Knoops, a Dutch-based international law specialist, bin Laden should have been arrested and extradited to the United States and then put on trial." http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/1424...rs-divided.htm See also: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011...-assassination http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion...e-2278041.html http://www.infowars.com/poll-reveals...ination-story/ http://www.dangerousminds.net/commen..._ladens_death/ This remains undisputed. Not one contradictory fact has been presented. The bushkultie isn't permitted to consider the facts. |
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The Bush crime family of treacherous wimps has never been on the same side as the USA. ObL couldn't affect the USA's air defense system. Cheney did. ""The U.S. government has consistently blamed me for being behind every occasion its enemies attack it. "I would like to assure the world that I did not plan the recent attacks, which seems to have been planned by people for personal reasons," bin Laden's statement said." http://articles.cnn.com/2001-09-16/u...-omar?_s=PM:US Yes, the bushkultie is so stupid as to believe faked videos and disregard direct statements to authentic news organizations. Can't expect a bushkultie to understand geometry, either: "the angle was nearly perpendicular, between zero and four degrees. Somehow, NIST and their associates missed by ten full degrees" http://911conspiracy.wordpress.com/2...peaks-volumes/ Notice that the bushkultie must ignore this fact, too. On Wed, 11 May 2011 19:55:30 -0700 (PDT), "Craves Fascist Iarnrod Up Gaping Ass" failed, flailed and foamed in impotent bushkultie kooker rage: ...admitted anal-sex-loving homosexual bushkultie shill ... Hates US ... foamed... impotent kooker rage: ...have to run away ... can't name one... You do have problems. Of course you can't name one item of admissible evidence that would exculpate your neocon idols, bushkultie. ...cannot NAME ONE... Of course you can't name one item of admissible evidence that would exculpate your neocon idols, bushkultie. So what's your excuse for your inability to insist on a valid trial for the most horrific crime of this millenium to date? kooker... That is your best excuse. ...Hates US Of course you hate America when you insist that those who murder Americans should not be prosecuted according to the rule of law. Notice that you can't name one thing that would be admissible evidence against the scapegoat chosen by your fascist masters. ... run away again without NAMING ONE THING ... As always. Still. Of course you can't name one item of admissible evidence that would exculpate your neocon idols, bushkultie. Not one ... Of course you can't name one item of admissible evidence that would exculpate your neocon idols, bushkultie. The bushkultie has no admissible evidence, and doesn't even know what it is. On Mon, 9 May 2011 05:03:39 -0700 (PDT), "Craves Fascist Iarnrod Up Gaping Ass" failed, flailed and foamed in impotent bushkultie kooker rage: ... admitted doing 9/11... Had you any evidence for that which would stand up in court? cricket.wav ... run away again ... You always do. The bushkultie doesn't believe in actual admissible evidence. The bushworshipper is so uncivilized as to prefer assassinations to trials. It's not difficult to fool a bushkultie. The bushworshipper has been tricked repeatedly. The bushkultie is pitied, while a useful example. The bushkultie is a mere dupe. The bushworshipper was fooled easily by faked videos. Others could see the discrepancies quite clearly. The real perps were 'incompetent' all the way to their offshore accounts. The claim of "incompetence" is ludicrous. "...incompetence cannot explain the suppression of efforts to prevent the attacks." http://www.oilempire.us/911.html Nobody had the means/motive/opportunity of Bush and Cheney. On Sun, 10 Apr 2011 06:51:25 -0700 (PDT), Schiffner wrote: ROTFLMAO... Normal healthy people don't find anything about 9/11 to be amusing. ... one stupid wife beating child raping idiot. SO ****ing stupid...... sack of ignorance, hate and stupidity. It's not about you. On Sat, 9 Apr 2011 21:45:17 -0700 (PDT), Schiffner wrote: ... I'lll ...[sic] ****s haven't a clue...**** ... You do have problems. On Sat, 9 Apr 2011 18:10:15 -0700 (PDT), all alone on another Saturday night, "Craves Fascist Iarnrod Up Gaping Ass" failed, flailed and foamed in impotent bushkultie kooker rage: ... hero Bush ... You do have problems. The precedent of allowing/aiding/abetting attacks to 'justify' wars and war crimes is rather apparent: On Fri, 8 Apr 2011 17:52:50 -0700 (PDT), all alone on another Friday night, "Craves Fascist Iarnrod Up Gaping Ass" failed, flailed and foamed in impotent bushkultie kooker rage: ... anal-sex-craving ... You do have problems. 9/11 was an inside job. On Thu, 24 Mar 2011 19:42:29 -0700 (PDT), "Craves Fascist Iarnrod Up Gaping Ass" failed, flailed and foamed in impotent bushkultie kooker rage: ... inability to NAME ONE ... Of course you can't name even one person who gained more from 9/11 than Bush and Cheney. No one had the means, motive, or opportunity for 9/11 that Bush and Cheney had. On Wed, 23 Mar 2011 05:33:29 -0700 (PDT), "Craves Fascist Iarnrod Up Gaping Ass" failed, flailed and foamed in impotent bushkultie kooker rage: ... avoid dealing with the reality ... Of course you do. You don't have one contradictory fact. All this remains undisputed, of course: http://www.911sharethetruth.com/links.htm On Mon, 21 Mar 2011 18:43:21 -0700 (PDT), "Craves Fascist Iarnrod Up Gaping Ass" failed, flailed and foamed in impotent bushkultie kooker rage: ... inability... You do have problems. That was already obvious. The bushkultie has to pretend this never happened, too: "Osama bin Laden, the man the United States considers the prime suspect in last week's terrorist attacks on New York and Washington, denied any role" http://articles.cnn.com/2001-09-16/u...-omar?_s=PM:US The bushkultie hasn't contacted CNN to demand a retraction. See also: Huge problems with the NIST report: http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/offi...ist/index.html http://911research.wtc7.net/essays/nist/index_0.98.html See also: http://www.informationclearinghouse....ticle15970.htm And: http://www.patriotsaints.com/News/91..._911_Cover-Up/ Notice that the bushworshipper is forced to pretend that this isn't public knowledge. No one is there to tell the bushkultie that Bush and Cheney aren't really nice guys. Too bad the bushkultie is so isolated from reality. The bushkultie sits all alone, all weekend, with nothing to do but attempt, feebly, to defend traitors and war criminals. All alone without anyone else willing to spend any time with the poor ugly old hag, On Friday night, 11 Mar 2011 20:23:00 -0800 (PST), the anal-sex-craving rightarded here Bush Hates US foamed in impotent kooker rage: ... inability to NAME ONE... Of course you can't name one person with more means, motive, or opportunity for 9/11 than Bush and Cheney. On Fri, 11 Mar 2011 05:20:30 -0800 (PST), Iarnrod wrote: ... anal-sex-craving rightarded... impotent kooker...must not be thinking... You do have problems. It's not about you, though. On Wed, 9 Mar 2011 06:10:59 -0800 (PST), "Craves Fascist Iarnrod Up Gaping Ass" failed, flailed and foamed in impotent bushkultie kooker rage: ... very amusing, I .... You're a laughingstock, though also pitied. It's not about you, though. On Tue, 8 Mar 2011 20:07:11 -0500, "Jeffrey Hamilton" failed: ...my_ killfile !!! You imagine anyone cares? How absurd. Meanwhile: On Tue, 8 Mar 2011 13:51:36 -0800 (PST), Schiffner wrote: ... adn ... scared ... ... still a coward and a needle dicked liar. It's not about you, though. On Tue, 8 Mar 2011 17:59:49 -0800 (PST), Matt Wiser wrote: ...never thought ... You seem unable to do that. Here - learn some real history: http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v11/v11p431_Lutton.html http://www.aim.org/aim-report/aim-re...-harbor-smear/ http://www.cnrs-scrn.org/northern_ma...11_2_1to17.pdf "If a group of people made a public statement saying that having a new Pearl Harbor would be the only way the public would support their agenda, and these same people were in positions that would allow them to conduct, permit or enable such an event when that event actually took place...would they deserve your suspicion? Well this is EXACTLY what happened. The very people with established motives for conducting an event like the one that took place on 9/11/2001 were responsible for national security when we had that most unlikely, unrealistic and implausible complete catastrophic failure of every single defense procedure in operation." http://www.tvnewslies.org/html/smoking_gun.html The Japanese weren't permitted to surrender when they were ready to do so. That was in order to intimidate the Soviets via the gratuitous use of the bomb. It helps to understand the real situation, including that of Pearl Harbor. The US goaded Japan into attacking, and then let the attack occur despite warnings of it, indeed even made itself more vulnerable to that attack than it should have. The US government at that time wanted to gain public support for war, and 'improve trade' in the east. They accomplished that, but threw in the added threat to everybody else by escalating to the use of nuclear bombs on civilians, when many who knew a great deal about the situation considered that excessive. "The duty officer at U.S. Asiatic Fleet headquarters in Manila first received word of the Pearl Harbor attack at 0230 on 8 December 1941, but a full hour passed before Brig. Gen. Richard K. Sutherland, MacArthur's chief of staff, heard the news from commercial broadcasts. He immediately notified MacArthur and all commanders that a state of war now existed with Japan. MacArthur ordered his troops to battle stations. Despite this warning, when the Japanese pilots of the 11th Air Fleet attacked Clark Field nine hours later, they caught two squadrons of B-17s lined up on the field and a number of American fighters just preparing to take off. The first wave of twenty-seven Japanese twin-engine bombers achieved complete tactical surprise and destroyed most of the American heavy bombers. A second bomber strike followed while Zero fighters strafed the field. Only three P-40s managed to take off. A simultaneous attack on Iba Field in northwest Luzon was also successful: all but two of the 3d Squadron's P-40s were destroyed. The Far East Air Force lost fully half its planes the first day of the war. ..." http://www.army.mil/cmh-pg/brochures/pi/pi.htm Were you unaware that Japan was *provoked* into that attack? The US froze Japanese assets (treaty violation) and embargoed their oil. Roosevelt was tired of supplying only materials to the war, and he saw Japan as the easiest way in, via an attack on US soil. Why did Roosevelt order the pacific fleet to relocate from the west coast to Hawaii in the summer of 1940? Why was the commander, Admiral Richardson, removed after complaining that Pearl Harbor didn't offer sufficient air or topedo defense? Didn't Roosevelt receive a memo in the fall of 1940, from a Navy analyst, describing eight ways to force Japan to attack the US (one of them an oil embargo), and all of them eventually implemented? Didn't Roosevelt's advisor Ickes tell him that an oil embargo would be an "easy" way to get into the war, the day after Hitler attacked Russia in the summer of 1941? "President Franklin D. Roosevelt wanted to enter the war in Europe, especially after the fall of France (June 1940). In this desire he was supported by the old elite ... After meeting FDR at the Atlantic Conference (August 14, 1941) Churchill noted the "astonishing depth of Roosevelt's intense desire for war." But there was a problem: the President could not overcome the resistance to "Europe's war" felt by most Americans and their elected representatives. The mood of the country was a problem, and Roosevelt therefore resorted to subterfuge. He systematically and deliberately provoked the Japanese into attacking the United States. His real target was Hitler: Roosevelt expected the German dictator to abide by the Tripartite Pact and declare war on America, and hoped that Hitler's decision would be facilitated by a display of America's apparent vulnerability. Accordingly, even though Roosevelt was well aware of the impending attack on Pearl Harbor ..." http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a3a3522a943db.html The US Army Signal Intelligence Service had cracked the Japanese codes before December of 1941. Although a British obsession with secrecy allowed the US to claim it had first deciphered JN25, it was actually done first by the British and Australians. "The "true heroes" of the Allied codebreaking effort, Smith says, were Eric Nave, an Australian officer attached to the Royal Navy, and John Tiltman, a British cryptographer. Although the Americans claimed that they broke JN25, the Japanese navy's operational code which contributed to the destruction of the Japanese carrier fleet at Midway, it was the work of Tiltman -- only a few weeks after it came into use in 1939." http://www.fpp.co.uk/online/00/09/Codebreaking2.html "In 1979 the NSA released 2,413 JN-25 orders of the 26,581 intercepted by US between Sept 1 and Dec 4, 1941. The NSA says "We know now that they contained important details concerning the existence, organization, objective, and even the whereabouts of the Pearl Harbor Strike Force." (Parker p 21) Of the over thousand radio messages sent by Tokyo to the attack fleet, only 20 are in the National Archives. All messages to the attack fleet were sent several times, at least one message was sent every odd hour of the day and each had a special serial number. Starting in early November 1941 when the attack fleet assembled and started receiving radio messages, OP-20-G stayed open 24 hours a day and the "First Team" of codebreakers worked on JN-25. In November and early December 1941, OP-20-G spent 85 percent of its effort reading Japanese Navy traffic, 12 percent on Japanese diplomatic traffic and 3 percent on German naval codes. FDR was personally briefed twice a day on JN-25 traffic by his aide, Captain John Beardell, and demanded to see the original raw messages in English. The US Government refuses to identify or declassify any pre-Dec 7, 1941 decrypts of JN-25 on the basis of national security, a half-century after the war." http://home.earthlink.net/~nbrass1/3enigma.htm Many people disagreed with the nuclear bombings of Japan: "...in [July] 1945... Secretary of War Stimson, visiting my headquarters in Germany, informed me that our government was preparing to drop an atomic bomb on Japan. I was one of those who felt that there were a number of cogent reasons to question the wisdom of such an act. ...the Secretary, upon giving me the news of the successful bomb test in New Mexico, and of the plan for using it, asked for my reaction, apparently expecting a vigorous assent. "During his recitation of the relevant facts, I had been conscious of a feeling of depression and so I voiced to him my grave misgivings, first on the basis of my belief that Japan was already defeated and that dropping the bomb was completely unnecessary, and secondly because I thought that our country should avoid shocking world opinion by the use of a weapon whose employment was, I thought, no longer mandatory as a measure to save American lives. It was my belief that Japan was, at that very moment, seeking some way to surrender with a minimum loss of 'face'. The Secretary was deeply perturbed by my attitude..." - Dwight Eisenhower, Mandate For Change, pg. 380 In a Newsweek interview, Eisenhower again recalled the meeting with Stimson: "...the Japanese were ready to surrender and it wasn't necessary to hit them with that awful thing." - Ike on Ike, Newsweek, 11/11/63 (Chief of Staff to Presidents Franklin Roosevelt and Harry Truman) "It is my opinion that the use of this barbarous weapon at Hiroshima and Nagasaki was of no material assistance in our war against Japan. The Japanese were already defeated and ready to surrender because of the effective sea blockade and the successful bombing with conventional weapons. "The lethal possibilities of atomic warfare in the future are frightening. My own feeling was that in being the first to use it, we had adopted an ethical standard common to the barbarians of the Dark Ages. I was not taught to make war in that fashion, and wars cannot be won by destroying women and children." - William Leahy, I Was There, pg. 441. On August 8, 1945, after the atomic bombing of Hiroshima, Hoover wrote to Army and Navy Journal publisher Colonel John Callan O'Laughlin, "The use of the atomic bomb, with its indiscriminate killing of women and children, revolts my soul." quoted from Gar Alperovitz, The Decision to Use the Atomic Bomb, pg. 635. MacArthur biographer William Manchester has described MacArthur's reaction to the issuance by the Allies of the Potsdam Proclamation to Japan: "...the Potsdam declaration in July, demand[ed] that Japan surrender unconditionally or face 'prompt and utter destruction.' MacArthur was appalled. He knew that the Japanese would never renounce their emperor, and that without him an orderly transition to peace would be impossible anyhow, because his people would never submit to Allied occupation unless he ordered it. Ironically, when the surrender did come, it was conditional, and the condition was a continuation of the imperial reign. Had the General's advice been followed, the resort to atomic weapons at Hiroshima and Nagasaki might have been unnecessary." William Manchester, American Caesar: Douglas MacArthur 1880-1964, pg. 512. Norman Cousins was a consultant to General MacArthur during the American occupation of Japan. Cousins writes of his conversations with MacArthur, "MacArthur's views about the decision to drop the atomic bomb on Hiroshima and Nagasaki were starkly different from what the general public supposed." He continues, "When I asked General MacArthur about the decision to drop the bomb, I was surprised to learn he had not even been consulted. What, I asked, would his advice have been? He replied that he saw no military justification for the dropping of the bomb. The war might have ended weeks earlier, he said, if the United States had agreed, as it later did anyway, to the retention of the institution of the emperor." Norman Cousins, The Pathology of Power, pg. 65, 70-71. A panel set up by President Truman to study the Pacific war issued a report, the United States Strategic Bombing Survey, in July 1946, which declared, "Based on a detailed investigation of all the facts, and supported by the testimony of the surviving Japanese leaders involved, it is the Survey's opinion that certainly prior to 31 December 1945, Japan would have surrendered even if atomic bombs had not been dropped, even if Russia had not entered the war, and even if no invasion had been planned or contemplated." www.doug-long.com http://www.antiwar.com/justin/j080801.html By 1945, Japan's entire military and industrial machine was grinding to a halt as the resources needed to wage war were all but eradicated. The navy and air force had been destroyed ship by ship, plane by plane, with no possibility of replacement. When, in the spring of 1945, the island nation's lifeline to oil was severed, the war was over except for the fighting. By June, Gen. Curtis LeMay, in charge of the air attacks, was complaining that after months of terrible firebombing, there was nothing left of Japanese cities for his bombers but "garbage can targets". By July, U.S. planes could fly over Japan without resistance and bomb as much and as long as they pleased. Japan could no longer defend itself.{6} After the war, the world learned what U.S. leaders had known by early 1945: Japan was militarily defeated long before Hiroshima. It had been trying for months, if not for years, to surrender; and the U.S. had consistently rebuffed these overtures. A May 5 cable, intercepted and decoded by the U.S., dispelled any possible doubt that the Japanese were eager to sue for peace. Sent to Berlin by the German ambassador in Tokyo, after he talked to a ranking Japanese naval officer, it read: Since the situation is clearly recognized to be hopeless, large sections of the Japanese armed forces would not regard with disfavor an American request for capitulation even if the terms were hard... As far as is known, Washington did nothing to pursue this opening. Later that month, Secretary of War Henry L. Stimson almost capriciously dismissed three separate high-level recommendations from within the Roosevelt administration to activate peace negotiations. The proposals advocated signaling Japan that the U.S. was willing to consider the all-important retention of the emperor system; i.e., the U.S. would not insist upon "unconditional surrender"... According to Manhattan Project scientist Leo Szilard, Secretary of State Byrnes had said that the bomb's biggest benefit was not its effect on Japan but its power to "make Russia more manageable in Europe"... http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Bl...ter_WBlum.html http://www.socialistworker.org/377AP...rlHarbor.shtml Of course, this was also the time in history when Prescott Bush, grandfather of the POTUS, was making a fortune in banking for the Nazis. The truth is that the Bush regime deals terror. Wasn't the first Bush president involved in Iraqgate and Iran-Contra? Anyone recall that the guy who shot Reagan was a Bush family friend? Will anyone complain when anything branded a 'conspiracy theory' by the Bu****es leads to arrests and asset forfeitures, without due process, of United States citizens? The Bush regime benefits directly and substantially from that [9/11] attack, via entities such as the Carlyle Group. 'Born-again' Bush called it a 'crusade' against 'Islam', a 'war' against 'terrorism', as he let the postal workers die of anthrax. Then why the hysteria against 'Islam' and not against 'Christianity' for the likes of the abortion-clinic bombers and the KKK? Isn't ['Dubya'] the one who approves of groups associated with the KKK? So US war machine propaganda means that the US military is terrorist. That's no surprise to folks in Nicaragua, and so many other places with similar histories ... If only a true superpower would just win over populations by letting them farm their farms and work their trades and build schools and hospitals and medicine factories and roads, instead of destroying helpless innocent people in droves until there is no one with the strength left to complain. The illegal invasion of Iraq is also a war crime of massive proportions. "Sarah, if the American people had ever known the truth about what we Bushes have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." -George H. W. "Poppy" Bush, spoken in an interview with Sarah McClendon, June 1992 http://chicago.indymedia.org/newswir...1956/index.php On Sat, 2 Oct 2010 10:39:41 -0700 (PDT), Matt Wiser wrote: ...conspiro-nuts ... You believe a guy on dialysis in a cave in Afghanistan got together with a few guys and thwarted the US air defense system, don't you. ""The CIA owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ Former CIA Director William Colby who died shortly after speaking the quote in a freak canoe accident" http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread142784/pg1 "d = ½gt² (where g = 32.2 ft/sec² or 9.8 metres/s²)" http://mindprod.com/politics/bush911...l#INTRODUCTION http://mindprod.com/politics/bush911insidejob.html "Our analysis indicated the biggest problem would be the fact that all the fuel (from the airplane) would dump into the building. There would be a horrendous fire. A lot of people would be killed, ... The building structure would still be there." http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/analysis/design.html "An editorial in the respected trade magazine Fire Engineering states that there is good reason to believe that the "official investigation," blessed by FEMA, into the WTC collapse is a "half-baked farce" that may already have been commandeered by political forces whose primary interests are clearly not full disclosure. "Respected members of the fire protection engineering community are beginning to raise red flags, and a resonating theory has emerged: The structural damage from the planes and the explosive ignition of jet fuel in themselves were not enough to bring down the towers." [Fire Engineering, 1/02]" http://www.wanttoknow.info/9-11cover-up10pg "Leading structural engineers and fire-safety experts believe the investigation into the collapse of the WTC is "inadequate.” They note that the current team of 20 or so investigators has inadequate financial and staff support, has been prevented from interviewing witnesses and from examining the disaster site. They couldn’t even get detailed blueprints of the World Trade Center. The decision to rapidly recycle the steel beams from the WTC means definitive answers may never be known." http://www.wanttoknow.info/9-11cover-up10pg All undisputed ... Still. Of course. And: "According to Gert-Jan Knoops, a Dutch-based international law specialist, bin Laden should have been arrested and extradited to the United States and then put on trial." http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/1424...rs-divided.htm See also: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011...-assassination http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion...e-2278041.html http://www.infowars.com/poll-reveals...ination-story/ http://www.dangerousminds.net/commen..._ladens_death/ This remains undisputed. Not one contradictory fact has been presented. The bushkultie isn't permitted to consider the facts. |
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On May 19, 10:02*am, Phlip wrote:
On May 19, 6:51*am, John Smith wrote: Yes. *I strongly suspect the saudis were recruited and trained by criminal elements in our own government ... it has been done in the past ... however, without a real and proper, and in depth, investigation there will always be some room to wonder. The money came thru Al Taqua Bank, which Rove and Norquist helped set up. Remember Wolfowitz's Saudi girlfriend? Truthers won't tell you _that_. Shaha Riza was born in Tripoli . . . Libya . It's a small world ! |
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