On 5/23/2011 9:59 AM, RD Sandman wrote:
John wrote in news:irbjfe$naf$1@dont-
email.me:

On 5/22/2011 10:58 AM, RHF wrote:
...
- It is the University of California at Santa Cruz
- who you are calling idiots.

Well Now... any Institution of Higher Learning
with 'Slug' {For Brains} as their Mascot is a
http://www.kohoso.us/images/ucsc.png
place that 'I' am not Banana's about. ~ RHF
http://www.ucsc.edu/about/mascot.html
-wrt- Sammy the Slug
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_California,
_Santa_Cruz#Mascot
...
Since the figures are actually a summary of the federal reserve and
govt. figures, the ultimate message comes from them ... you will
notice,
no one is able to come up with figures which dispute them -- that often
happens with the truth ...
Particularly when you post both sides.......you didn't.

Whoever make the money pays the bill ... no-brainer ... this financial
crisis is just working out those terms.

Regards,
JS

John Smith wrote in news:irec2j$3ri$1@dont-
email.me:

On 5/23/2011 9:59 AM, RD Sandman wrote:
John wrote in news:irbjfe$naf$1@dont-
email.me:

On 5/22/2011 10:58 AM, RHF wrote:
...
- It is the University of California at Santa Cruz
- who you are calling idiots.

Well Now... any Institution of Higher Learning
with 'Slug' {For Brains} as their Mascot is a
http://www.kohoso.us/images/ucsc.png
place that 'I' am not Banana's about. ~ RHF
http://www.ucsc.edu/about/mascot.html
-wrt- Sammy the Slug
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_California,
_Santa_Cruz#Mascot
...
Since the figures are actually a summary of the federal reserve and
govt. figures, the ultimate message comes from them ... you will
notice,
no one is able to come up with figures which dispute them -- that
often
happens with the truth ...
Particularly when you post both sides.......you didn't.

Whoever make the money pays the bill ... no-brainer ... this financial
crisis is just working out those terms.

However, you wish to tax the wealthy even more even when the stats show
that they pay about where they should be when looking at the amount of
wealth or income that they show.


--
Sleep well tonight....RD (The Sandman)

If you woke up this morning....
Don't complain.

"RD Sandman" wrote in message
...
John Smith wrote in news:irec2j$3ri$1@dont-
email.me:

On 5/23/2011 9:59 AM, RD Sandman wrote:
John wrote in news:irbjfe$naf$1@dont-
email.me:

On 5/22/2011 10:58 AM, RHF wrote:
...
- It is the University of California at Santa Cruz
- who you are calling idiots.

Well Now... any Institution of Higher Learning
with 'Slug' {For Brains} as their Mascot is a
http://www.kohoso.us/images/ucsc.png
place that 'I' am not Banana's about. ~ RHF
http://www.ucsc.edu/about/mascot.html
-wrt- Sammy the Slug
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_California,
_Santa_Cruz#Mascot
...
Since the figures are actually a summary of the federal reserve and
govt. figures, the ultimate message comes from them ... you will
notice,
no one is able to come up with figures which dispute them -- that
often
happens with the truth ...
Particularly when you post both sides.......you didn't.

Whoever make the money pays the bill ... no-brainer ... this financial
crisis is just working out those terms.

However, you wish to tax the wealthy even more even when the stats show
that they pay about where they should be when looking at the amount of
wealth or income that they show.


The wealthy, whose income is reported on 1099s, pay a lower effective tax
rate then people whose income is report on a W-2.
Up to 33% if you work at a job.....10% on dividends......for not working.

The more your make from NOT WORKING, the more likely your tax rate will
approach 17.7% asymptotically.

"Sid9" sid9@ bellsouth.net wrote in :


"RD Sandman" wrote in message
...
John Smith wrote in news:irec2j$3ri$1@dont-
email.me:

On 5/23/2011 9:59 AM, RD Sandman wrote:
John wrote in news:irbjfe$naf$1@dont-
email.me:

On 5/22/2011 10:58 AM, RHF wrote:
...
- It is the University of California at Santa Cruz
- who you are calling idiots.

Well Now... any Institution of Higher Learning
with 'Slug' {For Brains} as their Mascot is a
http://www.kohoso.us/images/ucsc.png
place that 'I' am not Banana's about. ~ RHF
http://www.ucsc.edu/about/mascot.html
-wrt- Sammy the Slug
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_California,
_Santa_Cruz#Mascot
...
Since the figures are actually a summary of the federal reserve
and govt. figures, the ultimate message comes from them ... you
will
notice,
no one is able to come up with figures which dispute them -- that
often
happens with the truth ...
Particularly when you post both sides.......you didn't.

Whoever make the money pays the bill ... no-brainer ... this
financial crisis is just working out those terms.

However, you wish to tax the wealthy even more even when the stats
show that they pay about where they should be when looking at the
amount of wealth or income that they show.


The wealthy, whose income is reported on 1099s, pay a lower effective
tax rate then people whose income is report on a W-2.
Up to 33% if you work at a job.....10% on dividends......for not
working.

So what? The top 1% owns about 42% of the wealth, has about about 35% of
the total net worth and pays about 40% of the income tax. Those numbers
are pretty much in line.

Meanwhile the bottom 80% owns about 7% of the wealth, about 15% of the
net worth and pays 11% of the income taxes. In fact the bottom 50% only
pays 2.7% of those income taxes.

Again, pretty much in line.


The more your make from NOT WORKING, the more likely your tax rate
will approach 17.7% asymptotically.

IOW, you are saying that the MORE money you make, the MORE money you
should owe the government and the LESS money you earn, the MORE money the
government owes you?



--
Sleep well tonight....RD (The Sandman)

If you woke up this morning....
Don't complain.

"RD Sandman" wrote in message
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"Sid9" sid9@ bellsouth.net wrote in :


"RD Sandman" wrote in message
...
John Smith wrote in news:irec2j$3ri$1@dont-
email.me:

On 5/23/2011 9:59 AM, RD Sandman wrote:
John wrote in news:irbjfe$naf$1@dont-
email.me:

On 5/22/2011 10:58 AM, RHF wrote:
...
- It is the University of California at Santa Cruz
- who you are calling idiots.

Well Now... any Institution of Higher Learning
with 'Slug' {For Brains} as their Mascot is a
http://www.kohoso.us/images/ucsc.png
place that 'I' am not Banana's about. ~ RHF
http://www.ucsc.edu/about/mascot.html
-wrt- Sammy the Slug
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_California,
_Santa_Cruz#Mascot
...
Since the figures are actually a summary of the federal reserve
and govt. figures, the ultimate message comes from them ... you
will
notice,
no one is able to come up with figures which dispute them -- that
often
happens with the truth ...
Particularly when you post both sides.......you didn't.

Whoever make the money pays the bill ... no-brainer ... this
financial crisis is just working out those terms.

However, you wish to tax the wealthy even more even when the stats
show that they pay about where they should be when looking at the
amount of wealth or income that they show.


The wealthy, whose income is reported on 1099s, pay a lower effective
tax rate then people whose income is report on a W-2.
Up to 33% if you work at a job.....10% on dividends......for not
working.

So what? The top 1% owns about 42% of the wealth, has about about 35% of
the total net worth and pays about 40% of the income tax. Those numbers
are pretty much in line.

Meanwhile the bottom 80% owns about 7% of the wealth, about 15% of the
net worth and pays 11% of the income taxes. In fact the bottom 50% only
pays 2.7% of those income taxes.

Again, pretty much in line.


The more your make from NOT WORKING, the more likely your tax rate
will approach 17.7% asymptotically.

IOW, you are saying that the MORE money you make, the MORE money you
should owe the government and the LESS money you earn, the MORE money the
government owes you?



..
..
"IOW" are your words.
Don’t put words in my mouth.

America's wealthy are under taxed.
Are workers are overtaxed.

The Republican con job continues

"Sid9" sid9@ bellsouth.net wrote in :


"RD Sandman" wrote in message
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"Sid9" sid9@ bellsouth.net wrote in
:


"RD Sandman" wrote in message
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John Smith wrote in news:irec2j$3ri$1@dont-
email.me:

On 5/23/2011 9:59 AM, RD Sandman wrote:
John wrote in
news:irbjfe$naf$1@dont- email.me:

On 5/22/2011 10:58 AM, RHF wrote:
...
- It is the University of California at Santa Cruz
- who you are calling idiots.

Well Now... any Institution of Higher Learning
with 'Slug' {For Brains} as their Mascot is a
http://www.kohoso.us/images/ucsc.png
place that 'I' am not Banana's about. ~ RHF
http://www.ucsc.edu/about/mascot.html
-wrt- Sammy the Slug
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_California,
_Santa_Cruz#Mascot
...
Since the figures are actually a summary of the federal reserve
and govt. figures, the ultimate message comes from them ... you
will
notice,
no one is able to come up with figures which dispute them --
that
often
happens with the truth ...
Particularly when you post both sides.......you didn't.

Whoever make the money pays the bill ... no-brainer ... this
financial crisis is just working out those terms.

However, you wish to tax the wealthy even more even when the stats
show that they pay about where they should be when looking at the
amount of wealth or income that they show.


The wealthy, whose income is reported on 1099s, pay a lower
effective tax rate then people whose income is report on a W-2.
Up to 33% if you work at a job.....10% on dividends......for not
working.

So what? The top 1% owns about 42% of the wealth, has about about
35% of the total net worth and pays about 40% of the income tax.
Those numbers are pretty much in line.

Meanwhile the bottom 80% owns about 7% of the wealth, about 15% of
the net worth and pays 11% of the income taxes. In fact the bottom
50% only pays 2.7% of those income taxes.

Again, pretty much in line.


The more your make from NOT WORKING, the more likely your tax rate
will approach 17.7% asymptotically.

IOW, you are saying that the MORE money you make, the MORE money you
should owe the government and the LESS money you earn, the MORE money
the government owes you?



.
.
"IOW" are your words.
Don’t put words in my mouth.

Did you see that curly thing at the end? (There's another one) It means
that it was a question. How is that putting words in your mouth? all
you need to do is answer it....the words you use will be your own.

America's wealthy are under taxed.
Are workers are overtaxed.

So far, you haven't shown that. I have shown data, you have simply run
your mouth and accused me of trying to put words in there for you to say.



--
Sleep well tonight....RD (The Sandman)

If you woke up this morning....
Don't complain.

"Sid9" sid9@ bellsouth.net wrote in message
...

"RD Sandman" wrote in message
...
John Smith wrote in news:irec2j$3ri$1@dont-
email.me:

On 5/23/2011 9:59 AM, RD Sandman wrote:
John wrote in news:irbjfe$naf$1@dont-
email.me:

On 5/22/2011 10:58 AM, RHF wrote:
...
- It is the University of California at Santa Cruz
- who you are calling idiots.

Well Now... any Institution of Higher Learning
with 'Slug' {For Brains} as their Mascot is a
http://www.kohoso.us/images/ucsc.png
place that 'I' am not Banana's about. ~ RHF
http://www.ucsc.edu/about/mascot.html
-wrt- Sammy the Slug
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_California,
_Santa_Cruz#Mascot
...
Since the figures are actually a summary of the federal reserve and
govt. figures, the ultimate message comes from them ... you will
notice,
no one is able to come up with figures which dispute them -- that
often
happens with the truth ...
Particularly when you post both sides.......you didn't.

Whoever make the money pays the bill ... no-brainer ... this financial
crisis is just working out those terms.

However, you wish to tax the wealthy even more even when the stats show
that they pay about where they should be when looking at the amount of
wealth or income that they show.


The wealthy, whose income is reported on 1099s, pay a lower effective tax
rate then people whose income is report on a W-2.
Up to 33% if you work at a job.....10% on dividends......for not working.

Excuse me, but what exactly do you mean by "effective tax rate"?

Is that some sort of realspeech for "we need to tax them for an even larger
share than what they have to pay now?"

"RD Sandman" wrote in message
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"Sid9" sid9@ bellsouth.net wrote in :


"RD Sandman" wrote in message
...
John Smith wrote in news:irec2j$3ri$1@dont-
email.me:

On 5/23/2011 9:59 AM, RD Sandman wrote:
John wrote in news:irbjfe$naf$1@dont-
email.me:

On 5/22/2011 10:58 AM, RHF wrote:
...
- It is the University of California at Santa Cruz
- who you are calling idiots.

Well Now... any Institution of Higher Learning
with 'Slug' {For Brains} as their Mascot is a
http://www.kohoso.us/images/ucsc.png
place that 'I' am not Banana's about. ~ RHF
http://www.ucsc.edu/about/mascot.html
-wrt- Sammy the Slug
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_California,
_Santa_Cruz#Mascot
...
Since the figures are actually a summary of the federal reserve
and govt. figures, the ultimate message comes from them ... you
will
notice,
no one is able to come up with figures which dispute them -- that
often
happens with the truth ...
Particularly when you post both sides.......you didn't.

Whoever make the money pays the bill ... no-brainer ... this
financial crisis is just working out those terms.

However, you wish to tax the wealthy even more even when the stats
show that they pay about where they should be when looking at the
amount of wealth or income that they show.


The wealthy, whose income is reported on 1099s, pay a lower effective
tax rate then people whose income is report on a W-2.
Up to 33% if you work at a job.....10% on dividends......for not
working.

So what? The top 1% owns about 42% of the wealth, has about about 35% of
the total net worth and pays about 40% of the income tax. Those numbers
are pretty much in line.

Meanwhile the bottom 80% owns about 7% of the wealth, about 15% of the
net worth and pays 11% of the income taxes. In fact the bottom 50% only
pays 2.7% of those income taxes.

Again, pretty much in line.


The more your make from NOT WORKING, the more likely your tax rate
will approach 17.7% asymptotically.

IOW, you are saying that the MORE money you make, the MORE money you
should owe the government and the LESS money you earn, the MORE money the
government owes you?

Also known as "Steal from the rich to give to the poor".

"Sid9" sid9@ bellsouth.net wrote in message
...

"RD Sandman" wrote in message
...
"Sid9" sid9@ bellsouth.net wrote in :


"RD Sandman" wrote in message
...
John Smith wrote in news:irec2j$3ri$1@dont-
email.me:

On 5/23/2011 9:59 AM, RD Sandman wrote:
John wrote in news:irbjfe$naf$1@dont-
email.me:

On 5/22/2011 10:58 AM, RHF wrote:
...
- It is the University of California at Santa Cruz
- who you are calling idiots.

Well Now... any Institution of Higher Learning
with 'Slug' {For Brains} as their Mascot is a
http://www.kohoso.us/images/ucsc.png
place that 'I' am not Banana's about. ~ RHF
http://www.ucsc.edu/about/mascot.html
-wrt- Sammy the Slug
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_California,
_Santa_Cruz#Mascot
...
Since the figures are actually a summary of the federal reserve
and govt. figures, the ultimate message comes from them ... you
will
notice,
no one is able to come up with figures which dispute them -- that
often
happens with the truth ...
Particularly when you post both sides.......you didn't.

Whoever make the money pays the bill ... no-brainer ... this
financial crisis is just working out those terms.

However, you wish to tax the wealthy even more even when the stats
show that they pay about where they should be when looking at the
amount of wealth or income that they show.


The wealthy, whose income is reported on 1099s, pay a lower effective
tax rate then people whose income is report on a W-2.
Up to 33% if you work at a job.....10% on dividends......for not
working.

So what? The top 1% owns about 42% of the wealth, has about about 35% of
the total net worth and pays about 40% of the income tax. Those numbers
are pretty much in line.

Meanwhile the bottom 80% owns about 7% of the wealth, about 15% of the
net worth and pays 11% of the income taxes. In fact the bottom 50% only
pays 2.7% of those income taxes.

Again, pretty much in line.


The more your make from NOT WORKING, the more likely your tax rate
will approach 17.7% asymptotically.

IOW, you are saying that the MORE money you make, the MORE money you
should owe the government and the LESS money you earn, the MORE money the
government owes you?



.
.
"IOW" are your words.
Don’t put words in my mouth.

America's wealthy are under taxed.
Are workers are overtaxed.

Nice assertion, but RD's number disprove that assertion.

So, do you have any counter evidence?

Sid9 wrote:

America's wealthy are under taxed.
Are workers are overtaxed.
^^^

Did you mean "Our", you retard?
How would YOU know, you unemployable retard?

You can't afford gas, let alone the final payments on your Yugo, you retard.
Get a job, AFTER you get an education, you retard!