..410 buck (or a choice), .357/.38 ....

good obama blaster, criminal public servant controller, etc. Could stop
'em from stealing you SW radio, golf clubs, other guns, or save your
arse when you wake up to the conspiracy and the conspirators want you
silenced!

http://bondarmsusa.com/

(make sure you watch the video!)

Would even fit in the san fransicko boys' purses!

Regards,
JS

On Tue, 27 Sep 2011 16:29:19 -0700, John Smith
wrote:

.410 buck (or a choice), .357/.38 ....

good obama blaster, criminal public servant controller, etc. Could stop
'em from stealing you SW radio, golf clubs, other guns, or save your
arse when you wake up to the conspiracy and the conspirators want you
silenced!

http://bondarmsusa.com/

(make sure you watch the video!)

Would even fit in the san fransicko boys' purses!

Regards,
JS

**** that. This is a much better weapon.

http://www.ruger.com/products/sp101/index.html

Five shots, better reload time, much more accurate.

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says...

On Tue, 27 Sep 2011 16:29:19 -0700, John Smith
wrote:

.410 buck (or a choice), .357/.38 ....

good obama blaster, criminal public servant controller, etc. Could stop
'em from stealing you SW radio, golf clubs, other guns, or save your
arse when you wake up to the conspiracy and the conspirators want you
silenced!

http://bondarmsusa.com/

(make sure you watch the video!)

Would even fit in the san fransicko boys' purses!

Regards,
JS

**** that. This is a much better weapon.

http://www.ruger.com/products/sp101/index.html

Five shots, better reload time, much more accurate.

Leave it to Johnny Kook to pick a POS like a Bond Arms 2 shot.

Dozens of better guns out there.

--
BDK- Top of the government shill heap for over 10 years running!

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On Tue, 27 Sep 2011 16:29:19 -0700, John Smith
wrote:

.410 buck (or a choice), .357/.38 ....

good obama blaster, criminal public servant controller, etc. Could stop
'em from stealing you SW radio, golf clubs, other guns, or save your
arse when you wake up to the conspiracy and the conspirators want you
silenced!

http://bondarmsusa.com/

(make sure you watch the video!)

Would even fit in the san fransicko boys' purses!

Regards,
JS

**** that. This is a much better weapon.

http://www.ruger.com/products/sp101/index.html

Five shots,

Which you get from one round of .410 triple aught buck (3" shell)

better reload time

Really? You think you can reload the cylinder of that revolver faster than
you can fire the other barrel of that derringer?

much more accurate.

I suspect the .410 would be suitably accurate for any reasonable self
defense range.

So unless you think you will have time to group your shots, The higher
accuracy is pretty much moot.

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On Tue, 27 Sep 2011 16:29:19 -0700, John Smith
wrote:

.410 buck (or a choice), .357/.38 ....

good obama blaster, criminal public servant controller, etc. Could stop
'em from stealing you SW radio, golf clubs, other guns, or save your
arse when you wake up to the conspiracy and the conspirators want you
silenced!

http://bondarmsusa.com/

(make sure you watch the video!)

Would even fit in the san fransicko boys' purses!

Regards,
JS

**** that. This is a much better weapon.

http://www.ruger.com/products/sp101/index.html

Five shots, better reload time, much more accurate.

Leave it to Johnny Kook to pick a POS like a Bond Arms 2 shot.

Dozens of better guns out there.

Depends on what you're after.

On a shot per shot basis, the .410 is going to deliver more to target.

effectively ten 30 caliber pellets to target in the time it takes to pull
the trigger twice.

Whereas the Ruger is going to take 5 trigger pulls, a reload, and than
another 5 trigger pulls.

That's not to say that one is a better gun than the other, but as in so much
it depends on what you're looking for it to do.

Also the .410 loading is generally reported to have a fairly high 1 shot
stop percentage, since you are usually effectively hitting the target
multiple times in 1 shot.

Based on reports and testing, the rounds that produce the best one shot
stops are those that produce a nice hydrostatic shock wave in the blood
pressure that effectively shuts down the brain for a period of time. Now
that's not to say they are going to stay down, only that they are going to
drop on the first shot and stay down for a bit. Shotguns do this quite
effectively since they tend to dump a large part of their energy to a broad
section of the body inducing such a hydrostatic shock. This, of course,
depends upon a reasonably direct impact to center mass.

So it all depends on your preferences, choices, and so on.

My biggest objection would be the weight of the piece which IMO makes it
less of a carry piece. On the other hand it's flat which again IMO makes it
easier to conceal than a revolver.

On Tue, 27 Sep 2011 20:30:19 -0400, "Scout"
wrote:



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On Tue, 27 Sep 2011 16:29:19 -0700, John Smith
wrote:

.410 buck (or a choice), .357/.38 ....

good obama blaster, criminal public servant controller, etc. Could stop
'em from stealing you SW radio, golf clubs, other guns, or save your
arse when you wake up to the conspiracy and the conspirators want you
silenced!

http://bondarmsusa.com/

(make sure you watch the video!)

Would even fit in the san fransicko boys' purses!

Regards,
JS

**** that. This is a much better weapon.

http://www.ruger.com/products/sp101/index.html

Five shots,

Which you get from one round of .410 triple aught buck (3" shell)

I can get 5 shots on target. And reload in about 2 seconds.


better reload time

Really? You think you can reload the cylinder of that revolver faster than
you can fire the other barrel of that derringer?

A derringer is an inaccurate piece of junk. Ruger makes an infinately
better gun.


much more accurate.

I suspect the .410 would be suitably accurate for any reasonable self
defense range.

So unless you think you will have time to group your shots, The higher
accuracy is pretty much moot.

..357 or 38 P+ hollowpoints at close range you only need one or two
anyway. The other 3 are extra. The SP101 is truly a remarkably
accurate gun for a snubby. I can shoot the same size groups with that
as I can with any handguns.

On 9/27/2011 5:30 PM, Scout wrote:


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On Tue, 27 Sep 2011 16:29:19 -0700, John Smith
wrote:

.410 buck (or a choice), .357/.38 ....

good obama blaster, criminal public servant controller, etc. Could stop
'em from stealing you SW radio, golf clubs, other guns, or save your
arse when you wake up to the conspiracy and the conspirators want you
silenced!

http://bondarmsusa.com/

(make sure you watch the video!)

Would even fit in the san fransicko boys' purses!

Regards,
JS

**** that. This is a much better weapon.

http://www.ruger.com/products/sp101/index.html

Five shots,

Which you get from one round of .410 triple aught buck (3" shell)

better reload time

Really? You think you can reload the cylinder of that revolver faster
than you can fire the other barrel of that derringer?

much more accurate.

I suspect the .410 would be suitably accurate for any reasonable self
defense range.

So unless you think you will have time to group your shots, The higher
accuracy is pretty much moot.



He thinks he will be in a movie or a shooting range when all this takes
place ... you kill them with the first shot, you might have time enough
for the second shot, then you better be ducking for cover and grabbing
your backup and looking around for his partner(s.)

There is much to be prepared for, both before, during and AFTER the
situation ... fact is, the further they are from you, the more difficult
it may be to convince a jury that deadly force was valid ... the closer
they are to you, the more chance it will be your attacker who is talking
to the court, prosecutor and jury ... for your murder ... be prepared
and keep a cool head ... then, the mistakes you make might be minor
enough to handle easily ...

Regards,
JS


Regards,
JS

Small gun? Predator 2 is up next on the FMC channel.Sneaky alien
creature skinning drug dealers in 1997 City of the Angels,You better git
a Bigger Gun.
cuhulin

On Tue, 27 Sep 2011 20:51:32 -0400, "Scout"
wrote:

My biggest objection would be the weight of the piece which IMO makes it
less of a carry piece. On the other hand it's flat which again IMO makes it
easier to conceal than a revolver.

Would be an OK survival gun for your BOB. Would be somewhat useful
for taking small game but only at very close ranges as shot would
spread really fast.

On 9/27/2011 6:08 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 27 Sep 2011 20:30:19 -0400, "Scout"
wrote:



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On Tue, 27 Sep 2011 16:29:19 -0700, John
wrote:

.410 buck (or a choice), .357/.38 ....

good obama blaster, criminal public servant controller, etc. Could stop
'em from stealing you SW radio, golf clubs, other guns, or save your
arse when you wake up to the conspiracy and the conspirators want you
silenced!

http://bondarmsusa.com/

(make sure you watch the video!)

Would even fit in the san fransicko boys' purses!

Regards,
JS

**** that. This is a much better weapon.

http://www.ruger.com/products/sp101/index.html

Five shots,

Which you get from one round of .410 triple aught buck (3" shell)

I can get 5 shots on target. And reload in about 2 seconds.


better reload time

Really? You think you can reload the cylinder of that revolver faster than
you can fire the other barrel of that derringer?

A derringer is an inaccurate piece of junk. Ruger makes an infinately
better gun.


much more accurate.

I suspect the .410 would be suitably accurate for any reasonable self
defense range.

So unless you think you will have time to group your shots, The higher
accuracy is pretty much moot.

.357 or 38 P+ hollowpoints at close range you only need one or two
anyway. The other 3 are extra. The SP101 is truly a remarkably
accurate gun for a snubby. I can shoot the same size groups with that
as I can with any handguns.

Unless you are facing a completely green and incompetent attacker ...
the matter will be decided in those first two shots ... in the movies,
there are gun fights, teenie bobber gangsters like a lot of shooting ...
a real attacker knows what he wants, is professional and is going to
have it QUICKLY! ... most idiots are going to allow him into the "zone
of no recovery" before they even begin to react ... from there, five
bullets or a thousand and five will make damn little difference ... it
will be him pumping them into your dead corpse ...

Regards,
JS