On Sun, 09 Oct 2011 11:03:20 +0900, Brenda Ann wrote:



That's not the business Apple is in; they sell a lifestyle of form
[over] substance


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Besides, Apple was extant in the market before PC's (the original Apple
computer was something like $3000, a clone was about $2300, IIRC). Apple
maintained a following and indeed an increasing market base even after
PC's got so cheap that most anyone could afford one.

If someone likes a product enough to pay what seems to be an exhorbitant
price for it, even in the face of a much cheaper alternative, then that
is what they call "market forces" in operation. The consumer, in this
case, has actually set the price by buying the product. If nobody were
buying it, it would either become cheaper or taken off the market.

They subsidised and strongarmed their way into schools; a whole
generation equated Apple with computing. It's definitely a fashion thing.
I was the IT guy at a TV network west coast headquarters. All the
"creative" types insisted on iMacs; they refused to work on windows
machines (this is for typing-not editing). Hollywood creative types are
insufferable boors.

I have at least half a dozen old Apple and Mac computers, and a bunch of
old Windows computers.Some of them are Portable Computers, forerunners
of laptop computers, one of them has a big shoulder strap attached to
it.Five of my old Dinasaurs (computers) were given to me for free.The
rest of them, I bought dirt cheap at Goodwill.My newest computer, a
Velocity Micro ProMagix desktop computer XP Home Edition operating
system, I bought it new from Velocity Micro in Richmond,Virginia in
November of 2004.I have seven WebTV set top boxes.For most of what I do,
WebTV works just fine for me.

I am an Idiot.
cuhulin

Steve Jobs was a Great inovator, that is for Sure.
cuhulin

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On 10/5/2011 8:10 PM, J R wrote:
I just now heard on TV news he has died.
cuhulin


I guess you just can't keep charging people too much for hardware and OS
forever ... someone elses' turn now ...

Regards,
JS

FYI I owe my life to an old Apple ][+ because I learned machine language
programming on one of those and then through a series of events ended up
being a full time programmer for IBM personal computers that got to travel
all over the place like from Boston, MA to Orlando, FL via New York City
were I went to the top of the South Tower. And I went to places like San
Francisco, Los Angeles, Catalina Island, Amarillo, TX even up to Vancouver
Canada and a lot of other places in the mid states.

Two of the things I did on the Apple ][e computers while I was still in
school were to rewrite the OS so it could load the first two programs on a
disk without loading the entire OS depending on what number I pressed while
booting and I changed my OS so I no longer had to spell out the entire word
CATALOG. All I had to do was spell cat or catwhatever (meaning as long at
the word "cat" was spelled in upper or lower case it didn't matter what
letters were behind it).

Yep, I owe my life to Steve Jobs even though I never bought an iPhone, iPad
or iPod but I might buy an iPhone if Sprint will let me keep my current plan
with unlimited phone as modem.

Rocky

Oh sure, I bet.

--
BDK- Top of the government shill heap for over 10 years running!

When my eight years older brother was an MP at Fort Gordon,Georgia back
in the 1950s, a guy was driving a Jeep.That guy had forgot to first
check the oil level.He burnt the Jeep engine up.My brother and another
guy, they went out there with some old used motor oil.They drained the
new oil from the Jeep, then they refilled the Jeep engine with the old
used motor oil.When they got back to Motor Pool, the boss said, I can't
understand why that engine burned up.

What kind of motor oil are you using Earl?
///Motor oyl is motor oyl!///
cuhulin

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dave wrote:

On Sun, 09 Oct 2011 11:03:20 +0900, Brenda Ann wrote:



That's not the business Apple is in; they sell a lifestyle of form
[over] substance


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Besides, Apple was extant in the market before PC's (the original Apple
computer was something like $3000, a clone was about $2300, IIRC). Apple
maintained a following and indeed an increasing market base even after
PC's got so cheap that most anyone could afford one.

If someone likes a product enough to pay what seems to be an exhorbitant
price for it, even in the face of a much cheaper alternative, then that
is what they call "market forces" in operation. The consumer, in this
case, has actually set the price by buying the product. If nobody were
buying it, it would either become cheaper or taken off the market.

They subsidised and strongarmed their way into schools; a whole
generation equated Apple with computing. It's definitely a fashion thing.
I was the IT guy at a TV network west coast headquarters. All the
"creative" types insisted on iMacs; they refused to work on windows
machines (this is for typing-not editing). Hollywood creative types are
insufferable boors.

Of course... ...someone insisting on a product must be a "fashion thing".

How exactly did Apple "strongarm" their way into schools.

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Alan Baker
Vancouver, British Columbia
http://gallery.me.com/alangbaker/100008/DSCF0162/web.jpg

http://www.devilfinder.com/find.php?...Apple+Computer
cuhulin

In article ,
Alan Baker wrote:

In article ,
dave wrote:

On Sun, 09 Oct 2011 11:03:20 +0900, Brenda Ann wrote:



That's not the business Apple is in; they sell a lifestyle of form
[over] substance


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Besides, Apple was extant in the market before PC's (the original Apple
computer was something like $3000, a clone was about $2300, IIRC). Apple
maintained a following and indeed an increasing market base even after
PC's got so cheap that most anyone could afford one.

If someone likes a product enough to pay what seems to be an exhorbitant
price for it, even in the face of a much cheaper alternative, then that
is what they call "market forces" in operation. The consumer, in this
case, has actually set the price by buying the product. If nobody were
buying it, it would either become cheaper or taken off the market.

They subsidised and strongarmed their way into schools; a whole
generation equated Apple with computing. It's definitely a fashion thing.
I was the IT guy at a TV network west coast headquarters. All the
"creative" types insisted on iMacs; they refused to work on windows
machines (this is for typing-not editing). Hollywood creative types are
insufferable boors.

Of course... ...someone insisting on a product must be a "fashion thing".

How exactly did Apple "strongarm" their way into schools.

Perhaps this genius can also explain why more and more college students
in science and engineering are switching to Macs? Of their own free
will, that is. And not to use Windoze on them, either.

What is Apple at now - 11%, third largest, up from less than 5% four
years ago?

On 10/8/2011 6:56 PM, RHF wrote:
On Oct 8, 5:42 pm, wrote:
On Sat, 08 Oct 2011 12:33:33 -0700, John Smith wrote:
On 10/5/2011 8:10 PM, J R wrote:
I just now heard on TV news he has died. cuhulin

I guess you just can't keep charging people too much for hardware and OS
forever ... someone elses' turn now ...

Regards,
JS

- That's not the business Apple is in;
- they sell a lifestyle of form of substance.

Ah M4 Mania Dave -u-b- Smoking Da App El !
-aka-'substance'-abuse-

* Mucho Medical-Marijuana Madness [M4]
.
.

Reminds me of that old Cheech and Chong movie where they are smuggling
dope into the USA by forming the compressed pot into the material the
auto body is made out of ... maybe dave is indicating you break off
parts of a MAC and smoke it?

I don't know, I'll wait until others have tried it and see if it looks
like something I would like to do, or not ...

Regards,
JS

On 10/9/2011 11:49 AM, Alan Baker wrote:
In articlejoednXxxSuLvPQzTnZ2dnUVZ_sudnZ2d@earthlink .com,
wrote:

On Sun, 09 Oct 2011 11:03:20 +0900, Brenda Ann wrote:



That's not the business Apple is in; they sell a lifestyle of form
[over] substance


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Besides, Apple was extant in the market before PC's (the original Apple
computer was something like $3000, a clone was about $2300, IIRC). Apple
maintained a following and indeed an increasing market base even after
PC's got so cheap that most anyone could afford one.

If someone likes a product enough to pay what seems to be an exhorbitant
price for it, even in the face of a much cheaper alternative, then that
is what they call "market forces" in operation. The consumer, in this
case, has actually set the price by buying the product. If nobody were
buying it, it would either become cheaper or taken off the market.

They subsidised and strongarmed their way into schools; a whole
generation equated Apple with computing. It's definitely a fashion thing.
I was the IT guy at a TV network west coast headquarters. All the
"creative" types insisted on iMacs; they refused to work on windows
machines (this is for typing-not editing). Hollywood creative types are
insufferable boors.

Of course... ...someone insisting on a product must be a "fashion thing".

How exactly did Apple "strongarm" their way into schools.


They virtually gave them the hardware, then sold them the software for
exorbitant prices ... signed them into exploitative contracts, etc.
Contracts which stipulated only apple people maintained the college
hardware ... etc., etc. Games within games, really.

Back in the late 80's and early 90's I taught at a jr. college, I seen
first hand how apples predatory sales techniques worked.

Finally, at the college, a few of us wrote letters of complaint to the
"higher ups" and rectified the problem ... there was also some business
of "incentives" being passed about about by apple to those who
controlled purchasing ... lunches, wining and dining, etc. However,
digital equipment corporation also participated in such practices ... (DEC)

However, one thing I did notice, the "apple room" was always full of
liberal arts students while the PC sections of the computer labs always
contained the math, physics, science, etc. students ... just as a casual
observation ...

Regards,
JS