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October 11th 11, 03:44 AM
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(OT) Steve Jobs.
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#62
October 11th 11, 03:58 AM
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On Oct 10, 4:50*pm, Alan Baker wrote:
In article , *John Smith wrote: On 10/10/2011 4:49 AM, BAR wrote: In , says... In , * Alan *wrote: In articlejoednXxxSuLvPQzTnZ2dnUVZ_sudn...@earthlink .com, * *wrote: On Sun, 09 Oct 2011 11:03:20 +0900, Brenda Ann wrote: That's not the business Apple is in; they sell a lifestyle of form [over] substance ------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- -- -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- -- -- Besides, Apple was extant in the market before PC's (the original Apple computer was something like $3000, a clone was about $2300, IIRC).. Apple maintained a following and indeed an increasing market base even after PC's got so cheap that *most anyone could afford one. If someone likes a product enough to pay what seems to be an exhorbitant price for it, even in the face of a much cheaper alternative, then that is what they call "market forces" in operation. The consumer, in this case, has actually set the price by buying the product. If nobody were buying it, it would either become cheaper or taken off the market.. They subsidised and strongarmed their way into schools; a whole generation equated Apple with computing. It's definitely a fashion thing. I was the IT guy at a TV network west coast headquarters. All the "creative" types insisted on iMacs; they refused to work on windows machines (this is for typing-not editing). Hollywood creative types are insufferable boors. Of course... ...someone insisting on a product must be a "fashion thing". How exactly did Apple "strongarm" their way into schools. Perhaps this genius can also explain why more and more college students in science and engineering are switching to Macs? Of their own free will, that is. And not to use Windoze on them, either. What is Apple at now - 11%, third largest, up from less than 5% four years ago? Intel won. Linux is surely the equal, or better, of windows -- however, it is a tad bit more difficult to use (unbutu perhaps breaks that rule) and is just as prone to viruses and such, if used by people without proper education and/or a virus/malware scanner ... If Linux is "surely the equal, or better, of Windows", then Mac OS X is surely the superior of Windows, because it is surely the better of Linux. It offers all that Linux offers and is easier to use. Plus, when you give people a product with is dirt free, they just can never really trust it, they have to suffer payment or they just have "that uncomfortable feeling." *ROFLOL Regards, JS -- Alan Baker Vancouver, British Columbia http://gallery.me.com/alangbaker/100008/DSCF0162/web.jpg Ah... My "OS" can Beat-Up Your "OS" ! and dats dat ~ RHF |
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#63
October 11th 11, 04:24 AM
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(OT) Steve Jobs.
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, RHF wrote: Perhaps this genius can also explain why more and more college students in science and engineering are switching to Macs? Of their own free will, that is. And not to use Windoze on them, either. What is Apple at now - 11%, third largest, up from less than 5% four years ago? Intel won. Linux is surely the equal, or better, of windows -- however, it is a tad bit more difficult to use (unbutu perhaps breaks that rule) and is just as prone to viruses and such, if used by people without proper education and/or a virus/malware scanner ... If Linux is "surely the equal, or better, of Windows", then Mac OS X is surely the superior of Windows, because it is surely the better of Linux. It offers all that Linux offers and is easier to use. Plus, when you give people a product with is dirt free, they just can never really trust it, they have to suffer payment or they just have "that uncomfortable feeling." *ROFLOL Regards, JS -- Alan Baker Vancouver, British Columbia http://gallery.me.com/alangbaker/100008/DSCF0162/web.jpg Ah... My "OS" can Beat-Up Your "OS" ! and dats dat ~ RHF . :-) -- Alan Baker Vancouver, British Columbia http://gallery.me.com/alangbaker/100008/DSCF0162/web.jpg |
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#64
October 11th 11, 04:32 AM
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Some of those Drones/UAVs are made in backwater hick Missy Sippy.They
are called BWH Drones. http://www.devilfinder.com/find.php?...in+Mississippi cuhulin |
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#65
October 11th 11, 04:57 AM
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(OT) Steve Jobs.
On Mon, 10 Oct 2011 15:07:36 -0700, John Smith
wrote: On 10/10/2011 2:31 PM, Howard Brazee wrote: ... So is renting an example of a generation being dumber? It is an example of not owning/having a home ... I don't know that needs any more explaining ... There's a lot you don't know. Hardly anybody *owns* a home. And when the bank owns more than the house is worth, or when a job comes up and they can't sell their home to move, they wish they had rented. I am holding off downsizing until housing values go up. I am also subsidizing other homeowners because they have tax breaks renters don't get. (and they are subsidizing me for the same thing). They choose to rent instead of buy because they are dumb? There are owners, and there are those who are slaves and work/pay for their right to squat on land ... I really don't know what you are looking for here ... the obvious differences and benefits are simply that, obvious, to those with the grey matter to know that/those differences ... Or is it they are dumb enough to create the economy where it made more sense to rent than to buy? The indians sold manhattan for some beads and trinkets ... the russians sold alaska for less than one days worth of oil which comes out of there ... Again, those capable already know the importance of these facts ... and conduct their life accordingly ... the implications, importance and consequences surrounding what you ask make me think something is wrong if you must ask the question which you are ... Regards, JS It is always good to examine closely held beliefs. You don't seem to be willing to do so. -- "In no part of the constitution is more wisdom to be found, than in the clause which confides the question of war or peace to the legislature, and not to the executive department." - James Madison |
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#66
October 11th 11, 05:14 AM
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(OT) Steve Jobs.
On 10/10/11 5:25 PM, Brenda Ann wrote:
There has been one particular invasion (a keystroke reader) of a high-security Unix system in the news lately... that of someone hacking into the software that runs the Predator drones... Yep, saw that a couple of days ago. Not that it would be impossible to do this on a *nix system, but could you point me to a link that names the OS that was infected? So far I haven't seen anything that names it one way or another. - x. |
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October 11th 11, 05:29 AM
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#68
October 11th 11, 08:04 AM
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On 10/10/2011 7:57 PM, Howard Brazee wrote:
On Mon, 10 Oct 2011 15:07:36 -0700, John wrote: On 10/10/2011 2:31 PM, Howard Brazee wrote: ... So is renting an example of a generation being dumber? It is an example of not owning/having a home ... I don't know that needs any more explaining ... There's a lot you don't know. Hardly anybody *owns* a home. And when the bank owns more than the house is worth, or when a job comes up and they can't sell their home to move, they wish they had rented. I am holding off downsizing until housing values go up. I am also subsidizing other homeowners because they have tax breaks renters don't get. (and they are subsidizing me for the same thing). They choose to rent instead of buy because they are dumb? There are owners, and there are those who are slaves and work/pay for their right to squat on land ... I really don't know what you are looking for here ... the obvious differences and benefits are simply that, obvious, to those with the grey matter to know that/those differences ... Or is it they are dumb enough to create the economy where it made more sense to rent than to buy? The indians sold manhattan for some beads and trinkets ... the russians sold alaska for less than one days worth of oil which comes out of there ... Again, those capable already know the importance of these facts ... and conduct their life accordingly ... the implications, importance and consequences surrounding what you ask make me think something is wrong if you must ask the question which you are ... Regards, JS It is always good to examine closely held beliefs. You don't seem to be willing to do so. The guy under the bridge, he doesn't own a home ... I know that ... if he wants one, if he thinks he needs one ... I just don't know ... but, I could guess ... The rest of what you had to say, bad decisions, paying too much for a home, etc. ... well ya', that is covered in "Life 101." If you missed that class, problems will keep arising until you do take that class! ... don't make those bad decisions, don't pay too much for over valued property, don't buy what you can't afford, etc. Basically, it comes down to common sense, if you can't afford the house, don't buy it... yet ... If you are having problems, you will have to examine how you have been doing things, and change them -- doing what you have just done, and failing, but expecting a different result THIS TIME is just plain insanity! If in a dead end job, get out of it. If in a low paying field, leave it. If you suffer a lack of skills, get them ... the crooks in government can be blamed for a LOT of stuff -- letting valuable jobs go overseas, stealing wealth from citizens, graft, corruption, printing worthless money, etc. But, you are to blame if you haven't placed yourself in a secure position, not made the right decisions, have over spent your income, didn't secure rock solid income(s), did not have mortgage insurance, didn't have backup plans, etc. I can't believe the number of people who are living from paycheck-to-paycheck, in bliss, in ignorance, not realizing they are a hairs breath from total disaster -- and then cry foul and are surprised when the house-of-cards comes crashing down! The time to have done something about this is long before it happens to you! I hate to spring the bad news on you, but if you don't have the price of the home you are purchasing in the bank, or in assets you can quickly make liquid, then you probably should not be buying the house. You are just "ripe for the picking." And, next time the criminals want to create a "situation" and take their property back, to resell to the next victim -- they will come for you ... and you will get what you are asking for. Good solid citizens just don't start families without first having a home, a good income, stability and resources to support children into the same ... and have them in a state of rock solid stability! If you are talking about a single person ... then maybe a home is not needed ... depends on what they want, and expect, I suppose. Regards, JS |
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October 11th 11, 08:10 AM
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(OT) Steve Jobs.
On 10/10/2011 4:50 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
In , John wrote: On 10/10/2011 4:49 AM, BAR wrote: In , says... In , Alan wrote: In articlejoednXxxSuLvPQzTnZ2dnUVZ_sudnZ2d@earthlink .com, wrote: On Sun, 09 Oct 2011 11:03:20 +0900, Brenda Ann wrote: That's not the business Apple is in; they sell a lifestyle of form [over] substance ------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- -- -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- -- -- Besides, Apple was extant in the market before PC's (the original Apple computer was something like $3000, a clone was about $2300, IIRC). Apple maintained a following and indeed an increasing market base even after PC's got so cheap that most anyone could afford one. If someone likes a product enough to pay what seems to be an exhorbitant price for it, even in the face of a much cheaper alternative, then that is what they call "market forces" in operation. The consumer, in this case, has actually set the price by buying the product. If nobody were buying it, it would either become cheaper or taken off the market. They subsidised and strongarmed their way into schools; a whole generation equated Apple with computing. It's definitely a fashion thing. I was the IT guy at a TV network west coast headquarters. All the "creative" types insisted on iMacs; they refused to work on windows machines (this is for typing-not editing). Hollywood creative types are insufferable boors. Of course... ...someone insisting on a product must be a "fashion thing". How exactly did Apple "strongarm" their way into schools. Perhaps this genius can also explain why more and more college students in science and engineering are switching to Macs? Of their own free will, that is. And not to use Windoze on them, either. What is Apple at now - 11%, third largest, up from less than 5% four years ago? Intel won. Linux is surely the equal, or better, of windows -- however, it is a tad bit more difficult to use (unbutu perhaps breaks that rule) and is just as prone to viruses and such, if used by people without proper education and/or a virus/malware scanner ... If Linux is "surely the equal, or better, of Windows", then Mac OS X is surely the superior of Windows, because it is surely the better of Linux. It offers all that Linux offers and is easier to use. Plus, when you give people a product with is dirt free, they just can never really trust it, they have to suffer payment or they just have "that uncomfortable feeling." ROFLOL Regards, JS Like I implied, a competent computer user who is well educated will be able to use any ... they are simply a tool ... a platform for you to build what is important upon ... Others will always be searching the perfect tool ... Regards, JS |
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