For the diminishing number of you who are still interested, here's a
link to a review comparing one of the Wellbrook loops to Pixel
Technology's RF Pro-1A magnetic loop antenna:

http://www.wellbrook.uk.com/reviews/...O-1AReview.pdf

I still prefer a tuned, passive loop to the amplified, broadband
variety.

Thanks for the comparison link,. I've been waiting for this and maybe a few
more antenna comparisons as well.
There was one advertised recently and I remember it was a piece of coax that
you could lay around the apartment and it supposedly gave you remarkable
results for around $75 plus shipping CONUS. I've done a search of cable
antennas but cannot find it now. Perhaps you or someone can remember this.
Anyway thanks for your time.
"Steve" wrote in message
...
For the diminishing number of you who are still interested, here's a
link to a review comparing one of the Wellbrook loops to Pixel
Technology's RF Pro-1A magnetic loop antenna:

http://www.wellbrook.uk.com/reviews/...O-1AReview.pdf

I still prefer a tuned, passive loop to the amplified, broadband
variety.

Found!
http://www.universal-radio.com/catalog/sw_ant/2205.html
Par Electronics EF-SWL

Do you or some of the others have any input on this antenna? Seems a bit
too good to be true but great if it works.


"Justis" wrote in message
...
Thanks for the comparison link,. I've been waiting for this and maybe a
few more antenna comparisons as well.
There was one advertised recently and I remember it was a piece of coax
that you could lay around the apartment and it supposedly gave you
remarkable results for around $75 plus shipping CONUS. I've done a
search of cable antennas but cannot find it now. Perhaps you or someone
can remember this. Anyway thanks for your time.
"Steve" wrote in message
...
For the diminishing number of you who are still interested, here's a
link to a review comparing one of the Wellbrook loops to Pixel
Technology's RF Pro-1A magnetic loop antenna:

http://www.wellbrook.uk.com/reviews/...O-1AReview.pdf

I still prefer a tuned, passive loop to the amplified, broadband
variety.

On Feb 3, 3:08*pm, "Justis" wrote:
Found!http://www.universal-radio.com/catalog/sw_ant/2205.html
Par Electronics EF-SWL

Do you or some of the others have any input on this antenna? * *Seems a bit
too good to be true but great if it works.

"Justis" wrote in message

...







Thanks for the comparison link,. *I've been waiting for this and maybe a
few more antenna comparisons as well.
There was one advertised recently and I remember it was a piece of coax
that you could lay around the apartment and it supposedly gave you
remarkable results for around $75 plus shipping CONUS. * I've done a
search of cable antennas but cannot find it now. *Perhaps you or someone
can remember this. Anyway thanks for your time.
"Steve" wrote in message
....
For the diminishing number of you who are still interested, here's a
link to a review comparing one of the Wellbrook loops to Pixel
Technology's RF Pro-1A magnetic loop antenna:

http://www.wellbrook.uk.com/reviews/...O-1AReview.pdf

I still prefer a tuned, passive loop to the amplified, broadband
variety.

The PAR EF-SWL is actually a random wire with a very well made
matching transformer. It is likely to be a very good antenna of its
type. The antenna "radiator" is not a coax, but a plain insulated
flex-weave wire, designed ideally to be suspended at some height above
the ground. If installed properly, it should provide a good signal to
noise ratio.

The Wellbrooks are somewhat more elaborate designs, amplified magnetic
loops. They work very well in RF-noisy places, but you pay for
compactness and performance.

Bruce Jensen

Justis wrote:

Found!
http://www.universal-radio.com/catalog/sw_ant/2205.html
Par Electronics EF-SWL

Do you or some of the others have any input on this antenna? Seems a bit
too good to be true but great if it works.

Cheaper just to roll your own transformer and hook up a wire to it.

dxAce
Michigan
USA

Par Electronics EF-SWL
"Cheaper just to roll your own transformer and hook up a wire to it."
I have a 9::1 balun.
This coax cable they describe, would any other cable say RG8/RG6 do the same
job? Live close to heavy industry and the noise at times just blankets the
area. NEED a quiet antenna. Thanks for the help!
R71A, NRD-535, NRD-525, E1 Main receivers.

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


Justis wrote:

Found!
http://www.universal-radio.com/catalog/sw_ant/2205.html
Par Electronics EF-SWL

Do you or some of the others have any input on this antenna? Seems a
bit
too good to be true but great if it works.

Cheaper just to roll your own transformer and hook up a wire to it.

dxAce
Michigan
USA

"Justis" wrote in message ...

Par Electronics EF-SWL
"Cheaper just to roll your own transformer and hook up a wire to it."
I have a 9::1 balun.
This coax cable they describe, would any other cable say RG8/RG6 do the same
job? Live close to heavy industry and the noise at times just blankets the
area. NEED a quiet antenna. Thanks for the help!


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If you need a "quiet" antenna, go for a loop. I had a home brew loop that
worked well, though I had to use a preselector with it. It was almost like a
miracle. Because it was a shielded loop, there was almost 50dB less noise,
and good directionality.

I made the thing from 5/8 copper tubing and some 8 AWG electrical cable. I
just put the cable inside the copper tubing, then connected the three wires
in series, soldered one end to the tubing and connected the other end to the
center of a piece of RG-8 (RG-8X is just as good and much easier to handle)
and clamped the ground braid to same place as the wire attached to the
tubing. This was a 4' loop, so worked as well at MW as SW. Unfortunately, I
don't have it anymore because the harsh climate destroyed it after only a
couple years.

This I'll try. 'Doesn't matter about spacing at the loop ends just as long
as they're not touching, 1 or 2 inches? I have a rotor that I bought at a
Radio Shack clearance for a project like this. This should help a bit with
reception as well.
I heard of someone using a hula hoop for something like this but copper
tubing I guess makes it a magnetic loop, which I hear is best for a low
noise antenna? Still use the balun?
A thousand thanks for the instructions.

"Brenda Ann" wrote in message
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"Justis" wrote in message ...

Par Electronics EF-SWL
"Cheaper just to roll your own transformer and hook up a wire to it."
I have a 9::1 balun.
This coax cable they describe, would any other cable say RG8/RG6 do the
same
job? Live close to heavy industry and the noise at times just blankets
the
area. NEED a quiet antenna. Thanks for the help!


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--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

If you need a "quiet" antenna, go for a loop. I had a home brew loop that
worked well, though I had to use a preselector with it. It was almost like
a miracle. Because it was a shielded loop, there was almost 50dB less
noise, and good directionality.

I made the thing from 5/8 copper tubing and some 8 AWG electrical cable. I
just put the cable inside the copper tubing, then connected the three
wires in series, soldered one end to the tubing and connected the other
end to the center of a piece of RG-8 (RG-8X is just as good and much
easier to handle) and clamped the ground braid to same place as the wire
attached to the tubing. This was a 4' loop, so worked as well at MW as SW.
Unfortunately, I don't have it anymore because the harsh climate destroyed
it after only a couple years.

One last thing, I have some 3/4" copper tubing available to make a 4 foot
loop. Will this work and roughly how much cable should I stuff inside, fill
'er up?

"Justis" wrote in message
...
This I'll try. 'Doesn't matter about spacing at the loop ends just as
long as they're not touching, 1 or 2 inches? I have a rotor that I
bought at a Radio Shack clearance for a project like this. This should
help a bit with reception as well.
I heard of someone using a hula hoop for something like this but copper
tubing I guess makes it a magnetic loop, which I hear is best for a low
noise antenna? Still use the balun?
A thousand thanks for the instructions.

"Brenda Ann" wrote in message
...


"Justis" wrote in message ...

Par Electronics EF-SWL
"Cheaper just to roll your own transformer and hook up a wire to it."
I have a 9::1 balun.
This coax cable they describe, would any other cable say RG8/RG6 do the
same
job? Live close to heavy industry and the noise at times just blankets
the
area. NEED a quiet antenna. Thanks for the help!


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

If you need a "quiet" antenna, go for a loop. I had a home brew loop that
worked well, though I had to use a preselector with it. It was almost
like a miracle. Because it was a shielded loop, there was almost 50dB
less noise, and good directionality.

I made the thing from 5/8 copper tubing and some 8 AWG electrical cable.
I just put the cable inside the copper tubing, then connected the three
wires in series, soldered one end to the tubing and connected the other
end to the center of a piece of RG-8 (RG-8X is just as good and much
easier to handle) and clamped the ground braid to same place as the wire
attached to the tubing. This was a 4' loop, so worked as well at MW as
SW. Unfortunately, I don't have it anymore because the harsh climate
destroyed it after only a couple years.

"Please stop posting off-topic shortwave ..... "stuff to the GET KELP
newsgroup"...!" "Heh heh"?
TRANSLATION PLEASE!
"DEFCON 88" wrote in message
...
On Feb 2, 9:35 am, Steve wrote:
For the diminishing number of you who are still interested, here's a
link to a review comparing one of the Wellbrook loops to Pixel
Technology's RF Pro-1A magnetic loop antenna:

http://www.wellbrook.uk.com/reviews/...O-1AReview.pdf

I still prefer a tuned, passive loop to the amplified, broadband
variety.

Please stop posting off-topic shortwave stuff to the GET KELP
newsgroup!

Heh heh ...