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WWV’s 25 MHz Signal Back on the Air
TAGS: air, daily basis, dean lewis, Fort Collins, listeners, meter propagation, MHz signal, NIST, old times, Propagation Beacons, standards, technology, youtube 04/07/2014 WWV silenced its 25 MHz signal in 1977, but it’s back on the air “for old times’ sake” — officially on an “experimental basis.” Resurrecting the long-dormant standard time outlet operated by the National Institutes of Standards and Technology (NIST) was Matt Deutch, N0RGT, the Lead Electrical Engineer at WWV. It all came about after Dean Lewis, W9WGV, lamented the loss of the 25 MHz signal in an e-mail to Deutch, who surprised him by subsequently putting the signal back on the air on April 4 for about 3-1/2 hours. A listener in Scotland posted his reception of the WWV 25 MHz signal on YouTube. WWV is running another 25 MHz test today (April 7), which began at about 1530 UTC. “Matt promises the signal to be available for 24 hours,” said Lewis. “Members and listeners might be interested in hearing this historic event.” Lewis said he’d told Deutch that since 10 meter propagation has been so good at this point in Cycle 24, and he uses the various WWV frequencies as propagation beacons on a daily basis. “He responded that ‘for old times’ sake,’ they’d put the [25 MHz] signal back on the air for a while. I assumed, of course, that he was kidding, and so I didn’t check. Matt wasn’t kidding!” NIST said the 25 MHz broadcast consists of the normal WWV signal heard on all other WWV frequencies, at the same level of accuracy. The transmitter in Fort Collins, Colorado, puts out 2500 W into a “broadband monopole.” WWV has invited listeners’ comments and signal reports. |
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Youtube video of the signal in Scotland
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bRPeKjkgIu0 On Mon, 07 Apr 2014 15:01:22 -0700, Keith wrote: WWV’s 25 MHz Signal Back on the Air TAGS: air, daily basis, dean lewis, Fort Collins, listeners, meter propagation, MHz signal, NIST, old times, Propagation Beacons, standards, technology, youtube 04/07/2014 WWV silenced its 25 MHz signal in 1977, but it’s back on the air “for old times’ sake” — officially on an “experimental basis.” Resurrecting the long-dormant standard time outlet operated by the National Institutes of Standards and Technology (NIST) was Matt Deutch, N0RGT, the Lead Electrical Engineer at WWV. It all came about after Dean Lewis, W9WGV, lamented the loss of the 25 MHz signal in an e-mail to Deutch, who surprised him by subsequently putting the signal back on the air on April 4 for about 3-1/2 hours. A listener in Scotland posted his reception of the WWV 25 MHz signal on YouTube. WWV is running another 25 MHz test today (April 7), which began at about 1530 UTC. “Matt promises the signal to be available for 24 hours,” said Lewis. “Members and listeners might be interested in hearing this historic event.” Lewis said he’d told Deutch that since 10 meter propagation has been so good at this point in Cycle 24, and he uses the various WWV frequencies as propagation beacons on a daily basis. “He responded that ‘for old times’ sake,’ they’d put the [25 MHz] signal back on the air for a while. I assumed, of course, that he was kidding, and so I didn’t check. Matt wasn’t kidding!” NIST said the 25 MHz broadcast consists of the normal WWV signal heard on all other WWV frequencies, at the same level of accuracy. The transmitter in Fort Collins, Colorado, puts out 2500 W into a “broadband monopole.” WWV has invited listeners’ comments and signal reports. |
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![]() Keith wrote: WWV’s 25 MHz Signal Back on the Air TAGS: air, daily basis, dean lewis, Fort Collins, listeners, meter propagation, MHz signal, NIST, old times, Propagation Beacons, standards, technology, youtube 04/07/2014 WWV silenced its 25 MHz signal in 1977, but it’s back on the air “for old times’ sake” — officially on an “experimental basis.” Resurrecting the long-dormant standard time outlet operated by the National Institutes of Standards and Technology (NIST) was Matt Deutch, N0RGT, the Lead Electrical Engineer at WWV. It all came about after Dean Lewis, W9WGV, lamented the loss of the 25 MHz signal in an e-mail to Deutch, who surprised him by subsequently putting the signal back on the air on April 4 for about 3-1/2 hours. A listener in Scotland posted his reception of the WWV 25 MHz signal on YouTube. WWV is running another 25 MHz test today (April 7), which began at about 1530 UTC. “Matt promises the signal to be available for 24 hours,” said Lewis. “Members and listeners might be interested in hearing this historic event.” Lewis said he’d told Deutch that since 10 meter propagation has been so good at this point in Cycle 24, and he uses the various WWV frequencies as propagation beacons on a daily basis. “He responded that ‘for old times’ sake,’ they’d put the [25 MHz] signal back on the air for a while. I assumed, of course, that he was kidding, and so I didn’t check. Matt wasn’t kidding!” NIST said the 25 MHz broadcast consists of the normal WWV signal heard on all other WWV frequencies, at the same level of accuracy. The transmitter in Fort Collins, Colorado, puts out 2500 W into a “broadband monopole.” WWV has invited listeners’ comments and signal reports. I checked the freq and propagation to here might be poor, I do hear a het on the freq that might be them. I'll have to do further checking as it's been a long time since they've been heard there. dxAce Michigan USA |
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![]() dxAce wrote: Keith wrote: WWV’s 25 MHz Signal Back on the Air TAGS: air, daily basis, dean lewis, Fort Collins, listeners, meter propagation, MHz signal, NIST, old times, Propagation Beacons, standards, technology, youtube 04/07/2014 WWV silenced its 25 MHz signal in 1977, but it’s back on the air “for old times’ sake” — officially on an “experimental basis.” Resurrecting the long-dormant standard time outlet operated by the National Institutes of Standards and Technology (NIST) was Matt Deutch, N0RGT, the Lead Electrical Engineer at WWV. It all came about after Dean Lewis, W9WGV, lamented the loss of the 25 MHz signal in an e-mail to Deutch, who surprised him by subsequently putting the signal back on the air on April 4 for about 3-1/2 hours. A listener in Scotland posted his reception of the WWV 25 MHz signal on YouTube. WWV is running another 25 MHz test today (April 7), which began at about 1530 UTC. “Matt promises the signal to be available for 24 hours,” said Lewis. “Members and listeners might be interested in hearing this historic event.” Lewis said he’d told Deutch that since 10 meter propagation has been so good at this point in Cycle 24, and he uses the various WWV frequencies as propagation beacons on a daily basis. “He responded that ‘for old times’ sake,’ they’d put the [25 MHz] signal back on the air for a while. I assumed, of course, that he was kidding, and so I didn’t check. Matt wasn’t kidding!” NIST said the 25 MHz broadcast consists of the normal WWV signal heard on all other WWV frequencies, at the same level of accuracy. The transmitter in Fort Collins, Colorado, puts out 2500 W into a “broadband monopole.” WWV has invited listeners’ comments and signal reports. I checked the freq and propagation to here might be poor, I do hear a het on the freq that might be them. I'll have to do further checking as it's been a long time since they've been heard there. Finally, at 2307, I can at least hear the 'pip' at the top of the hour on the frequency. dxAce Michigan USA |
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On Mon, 7 Apr 2014, Keith wrote:
WWV?s 25 MHz Signal Back on the Air TAGS: air, daily basis, dean lewis, Fort Collins, listeners, meter propagation, MHz signal, NIST, old times, Propagation Beacons, standards, technology, youtube 04/07/2014 WWV silenced its 25 MHz signal in 1977, but it?s back on the air ?for old times? sake? ? officially on an ?experimental basis.? Resurrecting the long-dormant standard time outlet operated by the National Institutes of Standards and Technology (NIST) was Matt Deutch, N0RGT, the Lead Electrical Engineer at WWV. It all came about after Dean Lewis, W9WGV, lamented the loss of the 25 MHz signal in an e-mail to Deutch, who surprised him by subsequently putting the signal back on the air on April 4 for about 3-1/2 hours. A listener in Scotland posted his reception of the WWV 25 MHz signal on YouTube. WWV is running another 25 MHz test today (April 7), which began at about 1530 UTC. ?Matt promises the signal to be available for 24 hours,? said Lewis. ?Members and listeners might be interested in hearing this historic event.? Lewis said he?d told Deutch that since 10 meter propagation has been so good at this point in Cycle 24, and he uses the various WWV frequencies as propagation beacons on a daily basis. ?He responded that ?for old times? sake,? they?d put the [25 MHz] signal back on the air for a while. I assumed, of course, that he was kidding, and so I didn?t check. Matt wasn?t kidding!? NIST said the 25 MHz broadcast consists of the normal WWV signal heard on all other WWV frequencies, at the same level of accuracy. The transmitter in Fort Collins, Colorado, puts out 2500 W into a ?broadband monopole.? WWV has invited listeners? comments and signal reports. I thought the 25MHz signal was stopped for budget reasons. So now they can just turn it on by whim? There has to be more to this story. And what about WWVH, or did it never do 25MHz? There was a story last week about how WWV has improved its accuracy, but I wasn't paying attention or it didn't really explain what was changed. But this almost seems connected. Michael |
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WWVH, was never on 25MHz
In 1974(NBS SP 236) was on 2.5; 5; 10; 15 & 20MHz "Michael Black" wrote in message news:alpine.LNX.2.02.1404071916220.10312@darkstar. example.org... On Mon, 7 Apr 2014, Keith wrote: WWV?s 25 MHz Signal Back on the Air TAGS: air, daily basis, dean lewis, Fort Collins, listeners, meter propagation, MHz signal, NIST, old times, Propagation Beacons, standards, technology, youtube 04/07/2014 WWV silenced its 25 MHz signal in 1977, but it?s back on the air ?for old times? sake? ? officially on an ?experimental basis.? Resurrecting the long-dormant standard time outlet operated by the National Institutes of Standards and Technology (NIST) was Matt Deutch, N0RGT, the Lead Electrical Engineer at WWV. It all came about after Dean Lewis, W9WGV, lamented the loss of the 25 MHz signal in an e-mail to Deutch, who surprised him by subsequently putting the signal back on the air on April 4 for about 3-1/2 hours. A listener in Scotland posted his reception of the WWV 25 MHz signal on YouTube. WWV is running another 25 MHz test today (April 7), which began at about 1530 UTC. ?Matt promises the signal to be available for 24 hours,? said Lewis. ?Members and listeners might be interested in hearing this historic event.? Lewis said he?d told Deutch that since 10 meter propagation has been so good at this point in Cycle 24, and he uses the various WWV frequencies as propagation beacons on a daily basis. ?He responded that ?for old times? sake,? they?d put the [25 MHz] signal back on the air for a while. I assumed, of course, that he was kidding, and so I didn?t check. Matt wasn?t kidding!? NIST said the 25 MHz broadcast consists of the normal WWV signal heard on all other WWV frequencies, at the same level of accuracy. The transmitter in Fort Collins, Colorado, puts out 2500 W into a ?broadband monopole.? WWV has invited listeners? comments and signal reports. I thought the 25MHz signal was stopped for budget reasons. So now they can just turn it on by whim? There has to be more to this story. And what about WWVH, or did it never do 25MHz? There was a story last week about how WWV has improved its accuracy, but I wasn't paying attention or it didn't really explain what was changed. But this almost seems connected. Michael |
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Michael Black wrote:
I thought the 25MHz signal was stopped for budget reasons. So now they can just turn it on by whim? There has to be more to this story. Of course they need a budget for monitoring, maintenance, replacement, electricity bill, ... Apparently after turning it off for 37 years and probably doing no or little maintenance, it still works. So maybe the required budget was a little over-estimated. But you don't know those things in advance. Of course the electricity bill alone will be in the 5-digit range, but that should be peanuts for a government agency. |
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On 04/07/2014 03:18 PM, dxAce wrote:
Keith wrote: WWV’s 25 MHz Signal Back on the Air TAGS: air, daily basis, dean lewis, Fort Collins, listeners, meter propagation, MHz signal, NIST, old times, Propagation Beacons, standards, technology, youtube 04/07/2014 WWV silenced its 25 MHz signal in 1977, but it’s back on the air “for old times’ sake” — officially on an “experimental basis.” Resurrecting the long-dormant standard time outlet operated by the National Institutes of Standards and Technology (NIST) was Matt Deutch, N0RGT, the Lead Electrical Engineer at WWV. It all came about after Dean Lewis, W9WGV, lamented the loss of the 25 MHz signal in an e-mail to Deutch, who surprised him by subsequently putting the signal back on the air on April 4 for about 3-1/2 hours. A listener in Scotland posted his reception of the WWV 25 MHz signal on YouTube. WWV is running another 25 MHz test today (April 7), which began at about 1530 UTC. “Matt promises the signal to be available for 24 hours,” said Lewis. “Members and listeners might be interested in hearing this historic event.” Lewis said he’d told Deutch that since 10 meter propagation has been so good at this point in Cycle 24, and he uses the various WWV frequencies as propagation beacons on a daily basis. “He responded that ‘for old times’ sake,’ they’d put the [25 MHz] signal back on the air for a while. I assumed, of course, that he was kidding, and so I didn’t check. Matt wasn’t kidding!” NIST said the 25 MHz broadcast consists of the normal WWV signal heard on all other WWV frequencies, at the same level of accuracy. The transmitter in Fort Collins, Colorado, puts out 2500 W into a “broadband monopole.” WWV has invited listeners’ comments and signal reports. I checked the freq and propagation to here might be poor, I do hear a het on the freq that might be them. I'll have to do further checking as it's been a long time since they've been heard there. dxAce Michigan USA Maybe if you tried a proper antenna... Random wires are entry level and evidence of a lack of imagination. |
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![]() dave wrote: On 04/07/2014 03:18 PM, dxAce wrote: Keith wrote: WWV’s 25 MHz Signal Back on the Air TAGS: air, daily basis, dean lewis, Fort Collins, listeners, meter propagation, MHz signal, NIST, old times, Propagation Beacons, standards, technology, youtube 04/07/2014 WWV silenced its 25 MHz signal in 1977, but it’s back on the air “for old times’ sake” — officially on an “experimental basis.” Resurrecting the long-dormant standard time outlet operated by the National Institutes of Standards and Technology (NIST) was Matt Deutch, N0RGT, the Lead Electrical Engineer at WWV. It all came about after Dean Lewis, W9WGV, lamented the loss of the 25 MHz signal in an e-mail to Deutch, who surprised him by subsequently putting the signal back on the air on April 4 for about 3-1/2 hours. A listener in Scotland posted his reception of the WWV 25 MHz signal on YouTube. WWV is running another 25 MHz test today (April 7), which began at about 1530 UTC. “Matt promises the signal to be available for 24 hours,” said Lewis. “Members and listeners might be interested in hearing this historic event.” Lewis said he’d told Deutch that since 10 meter propagation has been so good at this point in Cycle 24, and he uses the various WWV frequencies as propagation beacons on a daily basis. “He responded that ‘for old times’ sake,’ they’d put the [25 MHz] signal back on the air for a while. I assumed, of course, that he was kidding, and so I didn’t check. Matt wasn’t kidding!” NIST said the 25 MHz broadcast consists of the normal WWV signal heard on all other WWV frequencies, at the same level of accuracy. The transmitter in Fort Collins, Colorado, puts out 2500 W into a “broadband monopole.” WWV has invited listeners’ comments and signal reports. I checked the freq and propagation to here might be poor, I do hear a het on the freq that might be them. I'll have to do further checking as it's been a long time since they've been heard there. dxAce Michigan USA Maybe if you tried a proper antenna... Random wires are entry level and evidence of a lack of imagination. The only person 'entry level' around here is YOU, ya stupid clown 'tard. |
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On 04/08/2014 07:52 AM, dxAce wrote:
dave wrote: On 04/07/2014 03:18 PM, dxAce wrote: Keith wrote: WWV’s 25 MHz Signal Back on the Air TAGS: air, daily basis, dean lewis, Fort Collins, listeners, meter propagation, MHz signal, NIST, old times, Propagation Beacons, standards, technology, youtube 04/07/2014 WWV silenced its 25 MHz signal in 1977, but it’s back on the air “for old times’ sake” — officially on an “experimental basis.” Resurrecting the long-dormant standard time outlet operated by the National Institutes of Standards and Technology (NIST) was Matt Deutch, N0RGT, the Lead Electrical Engineer at WWV. It all came about after Dean Lewis, W9WGV, lamented the loss of the 25 MHz signal in an e-mail to Deutch, who surprised him by subsequently putting the signal back on the air on April 4 for about 3-1/2 hours. A listener in Scotland posted his reception of the WWV 25 MHz signal on YouTube. WWV is running another 25 MHz test today (April 7), which began at about 1530 UTC. “Matt promises the signal to be available for 24 hours,” said Lewis. “Members and listeners might be interested in hearing this historic event.” Lewis said he’d told Deutch that since 10 meter propagation has been so good at this point in Cycle 24, and he uses the various WWV frequencies as propagation beacons on a daily basis. “He responded that ‘for old times’ sake,’ they’d put the [25 MHz] signal back on the air for a while. I assumed, of course, that he was kidding, and so I didn’t check. Matt wasn’t kidding!” NIST said the 25 MHz broadcast consists of the normal WWV signal heard on all other WWV frequencies, at the same level of accuracy. The transmitter in Fort Collins, Colorado, puts out 2500 W into a “broadband monopole.” WWV has invited listeners’ comments and signal reports. I checked the freq and propagation to here might be poor, I do hear a het on the freq that might be them. I'll have to do further checking as it's been a long time since they've been heard there. dxAce Michigan USA Maybe if you tried a proper antenna... Random wires are entry level and evidence of a lack of imagination. The only person 'entry level' around here is YOU, ya stupid clown 'tard. I have an Italian CB antenna (Sirio M-400 Starduster) for 10m. I rule 10m. |
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