"I. P. Yurin" wrote in message
...


This is interesting. Having been raised catholic, and catching the
KJES broadcasts frequently over the last 3 years, I would not have
guessed these guys are Catholics. For one thing, I never catch them
mentioning the Pope, Mary, or the Catholic church and its
rules/doctrines. Those are usually the clear giveaways. In my
experience, a religious broadcaster who can go 20 minutes without
mentioning any of those *was* invariably a Protestant.

That is curious. I was raised Protestant, and it sounded like it could be
rather Catholic to me. But my Grandmother was raised Catholic, and she
described the chants and such. Back then, I guess it was all in Latin. I
have the impression that traditional Catholic teaching is more oral than the
Protestant teaching.


But who knows? This outfit may be one of the dissidents that have
arisen from time to time after Vatican 2.

Could be. Years ago, I'd hear things like "The Church sure has declined
since they dropped the requirement for the Latin Mass." Followed by, "Oh,
but you wouldn't understand."


Or maybe these guys were
against diddling little boys...

I'm sure most of 'em were. But it's remarkable how much bad behavior
insiders can get away with.


--
Col. I.P. Yurin
Commissariat of Internal Security

Stakhanovite
Order of Lenin (1937)
Hero of Socialist Labor (1939)

Frank Dresser

"tommyknocker" wrote in message
...

I don't think that KJES (it means King Jesus Eternal Savior) is as
strictly Catholic as WEWN Eternal Word Network. They may claim to be
Catholics, but they're more radical.

Seems way too radical for Catholics, indeed. Their pastors are usually not
the "fire and brimstone" types... just the opposite, as I recall from my
Irish Catholic upbringing... maybe these are some radical offshoot?

Jackie

"Randy Padawer" wrote in message
m...
Thanks, all. Well, I've certainly revealed my scriptural ignorance
today, LOL. That just sounded so extreme to me, and when chanted
(responsive reading group-style) sounded really way out. Thanks for
clarifying and for the information.

Randy (WA4FJF)

Considering the strangeness we've seen attributed to the Talmud on this
group, Biblical trolling was the first thing that popped in my mind. Sorry
'bout that!

Frank Dresse

"WShoots1" wrote in message
...
If I followed their Biblical advice, then I'd probably enter heaven as a
eunuch.

Note that the entity's president is a Jesuit. I understand the Jesuits
were
finally kicked out of the RCC for their extremist actions. Certainly they
were
the ones who accompanied the Spanish explorers 500 years ago and did bad
things
to Mesoamerican societies and burned their books.

Bill, K5BY

As far as I know, the Jesuits are in good standing with the Catholic Church.
I believe the Pope has disciplined a Bishop in France, but that was a few
years ago, and I don't follow that stuff closely.

Some SW broadcaster claimed the Jesuits are a CIA-like orginization who
will, or already have, engineered either the Antichrist or the False Prophet
into the Papacy. Sounds like something James Lloyd would say, but if the
story has been floating around the usual credulous sources, it could have
been any of several.

Frank Dresser

Sigh, Clete... I'm not against the Bible and neither am I
adverse from learning, I just didn't realize I was quoting
from the Bible. I apologize for my ignorance -- I honestly
thought what I was hearing was pretty unusual. By the way,
is ridicule and third-person contempt the usual way you
attempt to reach people like me who don't know this
stuff? I'm glad they never treated me this way when I
studied for my ham license -- I can hear it now... "Sigh...
another human who cannot accept the supremacy of
Morse code... Sigh... another human who can't understand
inductive reactance even after the tenth explanation...
Sigh... another human who failed his General written
portion because he didn't study hard enough (back in
1977 when the tests were still administered at the FCC
field office, and the questions weren't distributed in
advance)... Sigh..."

Sigh,

Randy (WA4FJF)


"Clete" wrote in message ...
Sigh...another human who cannot accept the preachings from the
bible....There are verses in the King James Bible that preach similar
things. If you don't like it, that is your problem...
Clete

On Thu, 11 Sep 2003 03:45:49 GMT, I. P. Yurin
wrote:

This is interesting. Having been raised catholic, and catching the
KJES broadcasts frequently over the last 3 years, I would not have
guessed these guys are Catholics. For one thing, I never catch them
mentioning the Pope, Mary, or the Catholic church and its
rules/doctrines. Those are usually the clear giveaways. In my
experience, a religious broadcaster who can go 20 minutes without
mentioning any of those *was* invariably a Protestant.

I wouldn't have guessed Catholic either. I haven't listened to them lately, but
when I first ran across them years ago they used the name Yahweh all the time,
so I was imagining them as some sort of Old Testament fundamentalists.

Jackie wrote:


"tommyknocker" wrote in message
...

I don't think that KJES (it means King Jesus Eternal Savior) is as
strictly Catholic as WEWN Eternal Word Network. They may claim to be
Catholics, but they're more radical.

Seems way too radical for Catholics, indeed. Their pastors are usually not
the "fire and brimstone" types... just the opposite, as I recall from my
Irish Catholic upbringing... maybe these are some radical offshoot?

Jackie

I'm reminded of the end of the world cult in Uganda that committed mass
suicide three and a half years ago. They claimed to be Catholics too.

Well stated Randy. You are correct in your observations.

mike



On 11 Sep 2003 12:20:42 -0700, (Randy Padawer)
wrote:

By the way,
is ridicule and third-person contempt the usual way you
attempt to reach people like me who don't know this
stuff?

Smeter wrote:
FWIW, I think they are quoting scripture accurately, except for the part
about the kid that I never heard. There are all kinds and degrees of views,
and a lot needs to be taken with a grain of salt.

HAHAHAHAHA!! I get it! Lot...salt...

Good one!

On Wed, 10 Sep 2003 13:54:04 -0500, Gray Shockley wrote
(in message ):


It may be KJES, a station on which I have no information (and would
appreciate some). Appears to be in the Southwest USA.

Gray

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Many thanks to all of you who helped me with KJES information.



Gray Shockley
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DX-392 DX-398
RX-320 DX-399
Torus Tuner (3-13 MHz)
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Vicksburg, MS US