yes, but getting the FCC to back you up is another thing... in the meantime
you have cops and lawyers and everything banging on your door and
giving you legal documents and legal-jazz worded lectures and things....
and you're all alone, without the FCC (unfortunately) to tell them
to take a hike.

They even told cities they couldn't have zoneing restrictions against them,
except for the ones set for by the FCC and FAA (about living close to
airports and not being able to erect anything over a certain height for
saftey
reasons)... but I hear horror stories of people writing/emailing/calling
the
fcc saying "HELP!" and naer and answer....

Clint
KB5ZHT

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A quote from Paul Cook, a typical "understanding
and tolerant" liberal...

"People like you really have no place in a civilized society although that
same society does try to accommodate you. You're basically an idiot who
takes advantage of what a society has to offer each and every single day
yet
you refuse to acknowledge its cost or its benefits to you. "


Facts are to socialists what crosses are to vampires

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In article et, DaveC
wrote:
antenna on his balcony. (The management doesn't allow anything on the
roof of
the building.) The balcony is a roofed 6 ft x 8 ft affair.

Wasn't there a rule by the FCC that management or neighborhood committies
could not forbid you from erecting an aerial on the roof?

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New York City, U.S.A.

On Fri, 19 Sep 2003 20:56:10 -0500, Clint wrote
(in message ):

yes, but getting the FCC to back you up is another thing... in the meantime
you have cops and lawyers and everything banging on your door and
giving you legal documents and legal-jazz worded lectures and things....
and you're all alone, without the FCC (unfortunately) to tell them
to take a hike.

They even told cities they couldn't have zoneing restrictions against them,
except for the ones set for by the FCC and FAA (about living close to
airports and not being able to erect anything over a certain height for
saftey
reasons)... but I hear horror stories of people writing/emailing/calling
the
fcc saying "HELP!" and naer and answer....

Clint
KB5ZHT


But, Clint - why should the FCC ("For Clear Channel") help anyone who hasn't
contributed to the election campaign of whatever party is in power?



Gray Shockley
-----------------------
DX-392 DX-398
RX-320 DX-399
CCradio w/RS Loop
Torus Tuner (3-13 MHz)
Select-A-Tenna
-----------------------
Vicksburg, MS US

"Clint" rattlehead@computronDOTnet wrote in message ...
you could always just get a random wire tuner.....

Yes, an inexpensive ham-type or homebrew longwire tuner works great
and does wonders db-wise for any humble or marginal length of rcvng
wire - I'm using one out in the sticks since my big wire came down,
any medicine man can throw one together or find a used low-power MFJ
on short money. Really helps your illegal AM xmttr, too, if it's
wound for 160+G.

I know one of the others gave a link to the slinky article, but one
article I've seen uses a cheap fishing reel with the line and weight
attached to the bottom of the slinky. When in use, you just release
the reel and the "antenna" extends. When not in use, you just crank it
up out of the way and weather (and line of sight).


On Fri, 19 Sep 2003 12:05:54 -0700, DaveC
wrote:

My brother is a serious SWL'er with a recent model of Drake SW receiver. He
listens exclusively to 30MHz.

He has asked me (the family electronics geek) what his options are for an
antenna on his balcony. (The management doesn't allow anything on the roof of
the building.) The balcony is a roofed 6 ft x 8 ft affair.

Is it possible to put a loop antenna, coiled inside the balcony roof, each
coil being supported, possibly, by a custom plexiglas support in each corner?


I'm open to other possibilties, but with the limited space, I quickly run out
of ideas.

I know about the center-fed masts, such as
http://www.radio-ware.com/products/asb3.htm
but I'd like to help him with an inexpensive DIY solution, if possible.

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

= = = Gray Shockley
= = = wrote in message ...
On Fri, 19 Sep 2003 20:56:10 -0500, Clint wrote
(in message ):



But, Clint - why should the FCC ("For Clear Channel") help anyone who hasn't
contributed to the election campaign of whatever party is in power?


Both parties are the Heads and Tails of the 'same' Coin (Pay-O-La).
Both parties (like pigs) feed at the same Trough.
The only difference is the Left Side or the Right Side of the Trough.



Gray Shockley
-----------------------
DX-392 DX-398
RX-320 DX-399
CCradio w/RS Loop
Torus Tuner (3-13 MHz)
Select-A-Tenna
-----------------------
Vicksburg, MS US

DaveC wrote:
My brother is a serious SWL'er with a recent model of Drake SW receiver. He
listens exclusively to 30MHz.

He has asked me (the family electronics geek) what his options are for an
antenna on his balcony. (The management doesn't allow anything on the roof of
the building.) The balcony is a roofed 6 ft x 8 ft affair.

Is it possible to put a loop antenna, coiled inside the balcony roof, each
coil being supported, possibly, by a custom plexiglas support in each corner?


I'm open to other possibilties, but with the limited space, I quickly run out
of ideas.

I know about the center-fed masts, such as
http://www.radio-ware.com/products/asb3.htm
but I'd like to help him with an inexpensive DIY solution, if possible.

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
I found a Sony AN-1 amplifed antenna on e-Bay. It's a telescoping
59 inch whip with a built-in preamp. It covers from 150 kHz to 30
mHz. Works pretty well.

73, Roger


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(Sven Franklyn Weil) wrote in message ...
In article et, DaveC wrote:
antenna on his balcony. (The management doesn't allow anything on the roof of
the building.) The balcony is a roofed 6 ft x 8 ft affair.

Wasn't there a rule by the FCC that management or neighborhood committies
could not forbid you from erecting an aerial on the roof?
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I get good results with a older high quality Datong brand dipole
active antenna. Using it, there is no AM broadcast interference above
3MHz with a Kenwood 5000. By the way this radio's noise blanker is
first rate. Read the reviews on the net to get a highgrade modern
active antenna!

RDJ,

Here are two ways to Improve Reception with your Sony AN-1 Active
Antenna:


INDOORS: If you are looking to use the Sony AN-1 Active Antenna in
the Attic. Try setting it up with a Double Loop element (Head)
Antenna made of Wire -vice- the standard telescoping Whip Antenna
element.:
* Two Loop Elements positioned at 0/180-Degrees and 90/270-Degrees.
* Each Diamond Shaped Loop with all four sides set at 30 Inches.
* Horizontal Cross-Arms are also set at 30 Inches.
* Vertical Center set at 67 Inches.
* Works better than the stock Whip and has more consistant signal
levels with lower noise.

OUTSIDE: To improve the OutSide performance of the Sony AN-1 Active
Antenna. Try using a 104 Inch CB Whip Antenna element -vice- the
standard telescoping Whip Antenna element.
* The One Piece Stainless Steel CB Whip element will 'weather' better
than the standard telescoping Whip Antenna element over the long term.
* The Added Length and Elevation that you will get by using the CB
Whip element, will result in better signal levels.

NOTE: Both of the above will not result in overloading this active
antenna and the radio.


iane ~ RHF
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..
= = = Roger D Johnson
= = = wrote in message ...

I found a Sony AN-1 amplifed antenna on e-Bay. It's a telescoping
59 inch whip with a built-in preamp. It covers from 150 kHz to 30
mHz. Works pretty well.

73, Roger

Jim K wrote:

I know one of the others gave a link to the slinky article, but one
article I've seen uses a cheap fishing reel with the line and weight
attached to the bottom of the slinky. When in use, you just release
the reel and the "antenna" extends. When not in use, you just crank it
up out of the way and weather (and line of sight).

I can't quite picture it from your discription. Please give it another
try.


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DaveC wrote:

On Mon, 22 Sep 2003 1:39:52 -0700, starman wrote
(in message ):

I can't quite picture it from your discription. Please give it another
try.

Try this:
1. attach one end of a metal slinky toy to your balcony. Also connect your
antenna input wire to this end of the slinky.
2. Drop the other end of the slinky off the balcony. It extends to full
length or until it hits the ground.
3. If you want to bring the slinky back up when you're done listening to the
radio, it would nice to have connected your fishing rod's line to the other
end of the slinky. Simply reel it in, and the slinky is retracted, ready to
launch again.

A lead fishing weight is optional for adding a bit of speed to the slinky's
deployment.

Thanks, I got it now.


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