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Old September 28th 03, 04:00 PM
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So long Boris old chap :-(((. You were a great broadcaster, a gentleman and
always answered my questions over the years with true professionalism. R.I.P
Sir.

http://www.vor.ru/English/25/obituary.html

Only Uncle Joe left now :-(
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Old September 29th 03, 04:06 AM
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helmsman wrote:

"Simon Mason" wrote:

So long Boris old chap :-(((. You were a great broadcaster, a gentleman and
always answered my questions over the years with true professionalism. R.I.P
Sir.

http://www.vor.ru/English/25/obituary.html

Only Uncle Joe left now :-(


Another true loss.


Uncle Joe (Adamov) did some fancy tap dancing after the collapse of the
USSR. Now he wants us to believe that he had no choice and was forced to
tow the party line at Radio Moscow. I don't doubt there was a lot of
pressure to conform at RM, especially when another employee disappeared
after doing his own version of the news one day. My problem with Joe is
he didn't have to work for Radio Moscow. I suspect the perks were more
than he could turn down.

BTW- Anybody have a recording of the renegade news reader incident at
RM? That guy was either a hero or crazy.


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Old September 29th 03, 04:21 AM
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Uncle Joe (Adamov) did some fancy tap dancing after the collapse of the
USSR. Now he wants us to believe that he had no choice and was forced to
tow the party line at Radio Moscow. I don't doubt there was a lot of
pressure to conform at RM, especially when another employee disappeared
after doing his own version of the news one day. My problem with Joe is
he didn't have to work for Radio Moscow. I suspect the perks were more
than he could turn down.

BTW- Anybody have a recording of the renegade news reader incident at
RM? That guy was either a hero or crazy.


I never heard it, but I remember reading about it. Or maybe Glenn Hauser
mentioned it. Radio Vilinus was interesting to monitor back then. One day
I was surprised to hear some mild critisism of Soviet radio policy. It was
immediately paired with a balancing critisism of US radio policy. Very
unusual. By the time the Soviet paratroopers stormed the Lithuianian TV
building, they were verbally ripping the Soviets on an hourly basis. All
broadcast by powerful Soviet transmitters. I'm sure there were a few
insiders in Soviet broadcasting who knew exactly what was being said. They
could have have the plug pulled, but didn't. I'm thinking Joe Adamov wasn't
the only non-true believer in Soviet broadcasting.

Frank Dresser


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Old September 29th 03, 01:16 PM
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starman wrote in message ...
helmsman wrote:



Uncle Joe (Adamov) did some fancy tap dancing after the collapse of the
USSR. Now he wants us to believe that he had no choice and was forced to
tow the party line at Radio Moscow. I don't doubt there was a lot of
pressure to conform at RM, especially when another employee disappeared
after doing his own version of the news one day. My problem with Joe is
he didn't have to work for Radio Moscow. I suspect the perks were more
than he could turn down.


If you lived in the USSR and were a journalist, in radio, TV or
newspapers, you didn't have much choice but to toe the line. Joe has
described in Moscow Mailbag how every show had to pass a censor.
Sometimes one censor would let something through that another one
would reject. He did his best to answer the questions within his
constraints IMO.
Simon
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Old September 29th 03, 11:53 PM
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Simon Mason wrote:

starman wrote in message ...
helmsman wrote:



Uncle Joe (Adamov) did some fancy tap dancing after the collapse of the
USSR. Now he wants us to believe that he had no choice and was forced to
tow the party line at Radio Moscow. I don't doubt there was a lot of
pressure to conform at RM, especially when another employee disappeared
after doing his own version of the news one day. My problem with Joe is
he didn't have to work for Radio Moscow. I suspect the perks were more
than he could turn down.


If you lived in the USSR and were a journalist, in radio, TV or
newspapers, you didn't have much choice but to toe the line. Joe has
described in Moscow Mailbag how every show had to pass a censor.
Sometimes one censor would let something through that another one
would reject. He did his best to answer the questions within his
constraints IMO.
Simon


Yes, but my point is he didn't have to be on RM. What's the point of
being a journalist in a totalitarian country? That's why I think he did
it for the perks.


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Simon Mason wrote:



Yes, but my point is he didn't have to be on RM. What's the point of
being a journalist in a totalitarian country? That's why I think he did
it for the perks.


Well, I'd bet what you think of as "perks" in the Soviet Union might
have been what most people would think of as "necessities". So Joe
was born in a country where journalism didn't mean much but that is
what he wanted to do.

I am happy for him that he has outlived that period to tell us exactly
what things were like and how terrible it was.

Go Joe!
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AC Smith wrote:

starman wrote in message ...
Simon Mason wrote:


Yes, but my point is he didn't have to be on RM. What's the point of
being a journalist in a totalitarian country? That's why I think he did
it for the perks.


Well, I'd bet what you think of as "perks" in the Soviet Union might
have been what most people would think of as "necessities". So Joe
was born in a country where journalism didn't mean much but that is
what he wanted to do.

I am happy for him that he has outlived that period to tell us exactly
what things were like and how terrible it was.

Go Joe!


I was thinking of perks like getting a nice apartment, not having to
wait years for a telephone or the best all perks, the dacha by the lake.
None of those were considered "necessities" by the average Soviet
citizen.


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korgman wrote in message ...
AC Smith wrote:

starman wrote in message ...
Simon Mason wrote:


Yes, but my point is he didn't have to be on RM. What's the point of
being a journalist in a totalitarian country? That's why I think he did
it for the perks.


Well, I'd bet what you think of as "perks" in the Soviet Union might
have been what most people would think of as "necessities". So Joe
was born in a country where journalism didn't mean much but that is
what he wanted to do.

I am happy for him that he has outlived that period to tell us exactly
what things were like and how terrible it was.

Go Joe!


I was thinking of perks like getting a nice apartment, not having to
wait years for a telephone or the best all perks, the dacha by the lake.
None of those were considered "necessities" by the average Soviet
citizen.



More like the special 'Stores' for Foreigners and Party Officials with
goods and products not available to the common citizen. Little things
like bread, milk, meat, veggies and fresh fruit available to buy daily
with out long lines.

Are these a 'perk' NO!

These are the very stuff (necessities) of a normal life for any man
with a Family (a wife and children) to provide for and to protect.



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I had the privledge of meeting Boris on a number of occaisions. Class
act all the way.

As to the recording of the "renegade announcer", I have heard folks do
have recordings but in all the RM stuff I have, sadly, that isn't one of
them.

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