The politically correct Nobel Peace Prize, "Speculation on winners this
year had centered on former Czech President Vaclav Havel and Pope John
Paul II", was, instead awarded to a female Human Rights Activist in Iran.

Nice going guys, don't give the ailing (dying) Pope some respect for his
lifetime of dedication, Nooooo, let's award it to a female from Iran that
will likely be killed by some Islamic lunatic from her own country merely
for winning the prize and accepting it without her head scarf.

By choosing a Female (believe me, there have been plenty deserving Female
awardees over the years) and an Islamic one at that, the Peace Prize
officials have shown that they can rise above the fray and look the other
way, excuse me while I go and puke.

Here is the list of the Awardees over the years:

http://almaz.com/nobel/peace/

Jimmy Carter, this proves that the Nobel Committee uses Drugs.

Koffi Annan, ahem, need I say more?

Kim Dae Jung, this proves that insanity runs amok in the selection
Committee.

Skipped some

Joseph Rotblat and to the Pugwash Conferences on Science and World
Affairs, sounds like a scene from Harry Potter.

In 1994, the prize was awarded jointly to, are you ready, drum roll
please, Yasser Arafat, Shimon Peres, and Yitzhak Rabin, the latter 2 from
Israel. No doubt that they were afraid to award the Prize to a single
selection from above (don't jump to Jewish Conclusions, I wouldn't give
it to Arafat, that's for sure)

Nelson Mandela and Fredrik Willem De Klerk.

Anyway, read the list for yourself, it's major politically correct, Miss
America has a more objective chance of being selected for her attributes
than the list of schmucks that they choose.

http://www.nobel.no/index.html

Dr. Artaud

This years winner, "The Survey Says!"

"OSLO, Norway - Human rights activist Shirin Ebadi won the 2003 Nobel
Peace Prize on Friday for her work fighting for democracy and the rights
of women and children, the first Muslim woman and the first Iranian to
receive the accolade".

"Dr. Artaud" wrote in message
.44...
The politically correct Nobel Peace Prize, "Speculation on winners this
year had centered on former Czech President Vaclav Havel and Pope John
Paul II", was, instead awarded to a female Human Rights Activist in Iran.

Nice going guys, don't give the ailing (dying) Pope some respect for his
lifetime of dedication, Nooooo, let's award it to a female from Iran that
will likely be killed by some Islamic lunatic from her own country merely
for winning the prize and accepting it without her head scarf.



Well, I'm sure James Lloyd would have plenty to say if the Pope were awarded
the Nobel Peace Prize!!

Frank Dresser

Ideas are the last thing to be destroyed because they are carried around
in the souls of human beings. Even if you incinerate every human being on
earth, their ideas will continue, because ideas are indestructible. At least
in death, the sheep are segragated from the goats, and relegated where they
belong. Those who deserve to be with the goats will live with the goats, and
those who deserve to live with the sheep will live with them. I have eaten
lamb, but not goat, and so cannot comment on the proper seasoning of goat
except to say I hope never to have dine on one.

Awards are nothing - they do not go with us in death. Death is not
necessarilly the end of pain. As soon as one begins to fathom that, the
sooner they may make their dining arrangements. Good luck.

I would that the last king were strangled with the guts of the last priest.

-Jean Meslier

Just change 'priest' with 'pope'.

From: "Dr. Artaud"
Organization: Matter
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2003 15:38:33 -0000
Subject: Nobel Peace Prize

The politically correct Nobel Peace Prize, "Speculation on winners this
year had centered on former Czech President Vaclav Havel and Pope John
Paul II", was, instead awarded to a female Human Rights Activist in Iran.

Nice going guys, don't give the ailing (dying) Pope some respect for his
lifetime of dedication, Nooooo, let's award it to a female from Iran that
will likely be killed by some Islamic lunatic from her own country merely
for winning the prize and accepting it without her head scarf.

By choosing a Female (believe me, there have been plenty deserving Female
awardees over the years) and an Islamic one at that, the Peace Prize
officials have shown that they can rise above the fray and look the other
way, excuse me while I go and puke.

Here is the list of the Awardees over the years:

http://almaz.com/nobel/peace/

Jimmy Carter, this proves that the Nobel Committee uses Drugs.

Koffi Annan, ahem, need I say more?

Kim Dae Jung, this proves that insanity runs amok in the selection
Committee.

Skipped some

Joseph Rotblat and to the Pugwash Conferences on Science and World
Affairs, sounds like a scene from Harry Potter.

In 1994, the prize was awarded jointly to, are you ready, drum roll
please, Yasser Arafat, Shimon Peres, and Yitzhak Rabin, the latter 2 from
Israel. No doubt that they were afraid to award the Prize to a single
selection from above (don't jump to Jewish Conclusions, I wouldn't give
it to Arafat, that's for sure)

Nelson Mandela and Fredrik Willem De Klerk.

Anyway, read the list for yourself, it's major politically correct, Miss
America has a more objective chance of being selected for her attributes
than the list of schmucks that they choose.

http://www.nobel.no/index.html

Dr. Artaud

This years winner, "The Survey Says!"

"OSLO, Norway - Human rights activist Shirin Ebadi won the 2003 Nobel
Peace Prize on Friday for her work fighting for democracy and the rights
of women and children, the first Muslim woman and the first Iranian to
receive the accolade".

On Fri, 10 Oct 2003 15:38:33 -0000, "Dr. Artaud"
wrote:

The politically correct Nobel Peace Prize, "Speculation on winners this
year had centered on former Czech President Vaclav Havel and Pope John
Paul II", was, instead awarded to a female Human Rights Activist in Iran.

Nice going guys, don't give the ailing (dying) Pope some respect for his
lifetime of dedication, Nooooo, let's award it to a female from Iran that
will likely be killed by some Islamic lunatic from her own country merely
for winning the prize and accepting it without her head scarf.

what an idiot. here's a woman that stood against religious fanaticism
in a country where she could easily be killed for doing so, and the
moron complains about her bravery.

how brave was the pope? who was going to kill him for coming out
against the war? the reason he did so was:

1. it was aligned with france
2 there are millions of arab catholics

hardly an example of courage.



Koffi Annan, ahem, need I say more?

agree on this one.



In 1994, the prize was awarded jointly to, are you ready, drum roll
please, Yasser Arafat, Shimon Peres, and Yitzhak Rabin, the latter 2 from
Israel. No doubt that they were afraid to award the Prize to a single
selection from above (don't jump to Jewish Conclusions, I wouldn't give
it to Arafat, that's for sure)

sometimes the committee awards the prize to 'works in progress' in
order to try and drive the process by giving it recognition. a bold
attempt that often fails.

Nelson Mandela and Fredrik Willem De Klerk.

they did deserved it. they produced a revolution in apartheid, ending
it in a country that was torn apart for centuries.

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On Fri, 10 Oct 2003 15:38:33 -0000, "Dr. Artaud"
wrote:


what an idiot. here's a woman that stood against religious fanaticism
in a country where she could easily be killed for doing so, and the
moron complains about her bravery.


You of course have had personal exposure to this woman? If not, did you
entirely rely on the news stories extolling her virtues? I would imagine
that the second is most likely. Given this, I would suggest that we are
idiots on par.

The liberal fantasy of accomplishment. You do not personally know what
she did, only what is "said" about her. And based on this, you decide
that she is more deserving.


how brave was the pope? who was going to kill him for coming out
against the war? the reason he did so was:

1. it was aligned with france
2 there are millions of arab catholics

hardly an example of courage.

Ah, thank you for pointing out to the other posters that "there are
millions of Arab Catholics". Actually, millions of Arab Christians is
more correct. But from the Jewish led media, one would have thought that
all Arabs were Islamic terrorists carrying AK-47s. So, Israel is killing
Christians that do not side with the Islamic Jihad? Interesting. I knew
this, but you have made the point much more eloquently.

How Brave was Jimmy Carter? Is bravery a prerequisite for receiving a
Peace Prize?




Koffi Annan, ahem, need I say more?

agree on this one.


Nelson Mandela and Fredrik Willem De Klerk.


they did deserved it. they produced a revolution in apartheid, ending
it in a country that was torn apart for centuries.

Oh please, your credulity is showing. They have been "liberated" from the
whites, resulting is a lunatic self destructing government and failing
economic system.


http://capmag.com/article.asp?ID=1376

"Summary: Colonial masters never committed anything near the murder and
genocide seen under black rule in Rwanda, Burundi, Uganda, Nigeria,
Mozambique, Somalia and other countries, where millions of blacks have
been slaughtered in unspeakable ways, which include: hacking to death,
boiling in oil, setting on fire and dismemberment."

http://www.gmu.edu/departments/econo...cles/99/After-
Apartheid.htm

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/ar...TICLE_ID=23871

"The killing of white Afrikaner farmers in South Africa is intensifying,
as members of the ethnic minority attempt to draw international attention
to their plight.

According to a journalist covering the killings in South Africa, since
the Marxist ANC took power in 1994, 1,118 farmers have been murdered in
the nation.

"Where is President Bush on this issue? Where is Colin Powell?

http://home.mweb.co.za/sa/savimbi/imagesterror.htm


http://home.mweb.co.za/sa/savimbi/images/terknd.jpg

"How something like this is classified as an 'act of war' and part of a
'justified struggle' by the so-called Truth Commission chaired by
'Archbishop' Desmond Tutu, goes beyond the comprehension of any civilized
true Christian. Such monstrous murders of babies like these resulted from
landmines planted on private farm roads by 'valiant heroes of the
struggle', who, believe it or not, were awarded medals for bravery by
President of the New South Africa (Azania), Nelson Mandela. Medals for
the killing and mutilation of whole families, innocent farmers, wives and
children like this baby. Farm labourers were not spared, either. The
photo of the wrecked tractor, which detonated a mine while ploughing,
shown in the book "The Other Side of the Story, a True perspective" bears
silent witness to this."


http://home.mweb.co.za/sa/savimbi/images/tPlaas1.jpg
http://home.mweb.co.za/sa/savimbi/images/tPlaas3.jpg
http://home.mweb.co.za/sa/savimbi/images/tPlaas13.jpg

The above people wish to thank you for your courageous support for the
end of Apartheid, and the complete lack of follow up by the liberals that
now wish to ignore the atrocities being committed by blacks against the
whites.

Liberals, you can't live with them, you can live without them.

Dr Artaud


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On Sat, 11 Oct 2003 17:36:07 -0000, "Dr. Artaud"
wrote:

wrote in :

On Fri, 10 Oct 2003 15:38:33 -0000, "Dr. Artaud"
wrote:


what an idiot. here's a woman that stood against religious fanaticism
in a country where she could easily be killed for doing so, and the
moron complains about her bravery.


You of course have had personal exposure to this woman? If not, did you
entirely rely on the news stories extolling her virtues? I would imagine
that the second is most likely. Given this, I would suggest that we are
idiots on par.

meaningless.

The liberal fantasy of accomplishment. You do not personally know what
she did, only what is "said" about her. And based on this, you decide
that she is more deserving.

meaningless.

you her jilted lover, perhaps? all you did was vomit a bunch of
garbage, using her as a synecdoche for political correctness. if you
think your cliches are profound wisdom, then, more's the pity.



how brave was the pope? who was going to kill him for coming out
against the war? the reason he did so was:

1. it was aligned with france
2 there are millions of arab catholics

hardly an example of courage.

Ah, thank you for pointing out to the other posters that "there are
millions of Arab Catholics". Actually, millions of Arab Christians is
more correct.

what a moron.

you denying there are millions of arab CATHOLICS? or, do you just hate
catholics, and are trying to imply that catholics arent christians?

But from the Jewish led media, one would have thought that
all Arabs were Islamic terrorists carrying AK-47s.

ah. the jewish media.

well, let's see. i read the 'economist', published in london...not
jewish. i listen to 'deutsche welle'...the voice of germany. not a
whole lot of jews in germany. i listen to the BBC and NPR both of
which have an active hostility to israel

so another one of your cliches gets smoked before your very eyes.

So, Israel is killing
Christians that do not side with the Islamic Jihad? Interesting. I knew
this, but you have made the point much more eloquently.

israel is not killing christians. it is killing members of terrorist
groups. sounds like ANOTHER cliche.


How Brave was Jimmy Carter? Is bravery a prerequisite for receiving a
Peace Prize?

irrelevant. i dont care about carter, nor his peace prize.



Nelson Mandela and Fredrik Willem De Klerk.


they did deserved it. they produced a revolution in apartheid, ending
it in a country that was torn apart for centuries.

Oh please, your credulity is showing. They have been "liberated" from the
whites, resulting is a lunatic self destructing government and failing
economic system.

ah. so you support racist apartheid, with the potential of
degenerating into civil war?

res ipsa loquitur.



http://capmag.com/article.asp?ID=1376

"Summary: Colonial masters never committed anything near the murder and
genocide seen under black rule in Rwanda, Burundi, Uganda, Nigeria,
Mozambique, Somalia and other countries, where millions of blacks have
been slaughtered in unspeakable ways, which include: hacking to death,
boiling in oil, setting on fire and dismemberment."

i notice south africa is conspicuous by its absence from your list.

so, again, your stereotype failed.



http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/ar...TICLE_ID=23871

"The killing of white Afrikaner farmers in South Africa is intensifying,
as members of the ethnic minority attempt to draw international attention
to their plight.

gee. and, i guess, blacks were never killed by the white south african
govt.


According to a journalist covering the killings in South Africa, since
the Marxist ANC took power in 1994, 1,118 farmers have been murdered in
the nation.

the current govt of south africa is not marxist. they have
nationalized nothing. even mandela's wife got hauled into court for
her activities.



http://home.mweb.co.za/sa/savimbi/images/terknd.jpg

"How something like this is classified as an 'act of war' and part of a
'justified struggle' by the so-called Truth Commission chaired by
'Archbishop' Desmond Tutu, goes beyond the comprehension of any civilized
true Christian. Such monstrous murders of babies like these resulted from
landmines planted on private farm roads by 'valiant heroes of the
struggle', who, believe it or not, were awarded medals for bravery by
President of the New South Africa (Azania), Nelson Mandela. Medals for
the killing and mutilation of whole families, innocent farmers, wives and
children like this baby. Farm labourers were not spared, either. The
photo of the wrecked tractor, which detonated a mine while ploughing,
shown in the book "The Other Side of the Story, a True perspective" bears
silent witness to this."

we weren't talking about tutu. the issue was mandela. tutu is not a
govt official.

you're goalpost moving. first you get whacked because of your idiotic
hatred of blacks and jews, NOW you're trying to bring up irrelevant
issues.

loser.


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On Fri, 10 Oct 2003 15:38:33 -0000, "Dr. Artaud"
wrote:

Do you know her personally, or are you relying on information that the
media provided concerning her courageous activities? If you are relying
on the media stories, then you and I are idiots on par.

what an idiot. here's a woman that stood against religious fanaticism
in a country where she could easily be killed for doing so, and the
moron complains about her bravery.

how brave was the pope? who was going to kill him for coming out
against the war? the reason he did so was:

1. it was aligned with france
2 there are millions of arab catholics

Thank you for indicating to the group that there are millions of Arab
Catholics. Though the truth is more like millions of Arab Christians, due
to the Jewish controlled Media, one would believe that all Arabs are
insane Islamics carrying AK47s, all bent on Jihad. Your post has helped
to clarify that the Israelis are killing some Christians that do not
identify with the Islamic ideals.



Jimmy Carter exemplifies courage? Is courage a requirement to receive a
Peace Prize?


hardly an example of courage.



Koffi Annan, ahem, need I say more?

agree on this one.



In 1994, the prize was awarded jointly to, are you ready, drum roll
please, Yasser Arafat, Shimon Peres, and Yitzhak Rabin, the latter 2
from Israel. No doubt that they were afraid to award the Prize to a
single selection from above (don't jump to Jewish Conclusions, I
wouldn't give it to Arafat, that's for sure)

sometimes the committee awards the prize to 'works in progress' in
order to try and drive the process by giving it recognition. a bold
attempt that often fails.

Nelson Mandela and Fredrik Willem De Klerk.

they did deserved it. they produced a revolution in apartheid, ending
it in a country that was torn apart for centuries.

Ah, the liberal fetish with Apartheid.

http://www.gmu.edu/departments/econo...cles/99/After-
Apartheid.htm

http://home.mweb.co.za/sa/savimbi/imagesterror.htm

http://home.mweb.co.za/sa/savimbi/images/terknd.jpg
http://home.mweb.co.za/sa/savimbi/images/tPlaas1.jpg
http://home.mweb.co.za/sa/savimbi/images/tPlaas3.jpg
http://home.mweb.co.za/sa/savimbi/images/tPlaas13.jpg

Ask the above individuals how they feel about the end of Apartheid? As
usual with liberals, they choose to look the other way after they have
accomplished their monomaniacal goals. Truth be known, South Africa is
in a horrendous state, with a declining economy and a failing government.
Murders are at an all time high. Many white farmers are being murdered by
blacks, but the world takes no notice. The white farmers were capable of
sufficient productivity on their farms to make a difference in feeding
the locals. But the locals choose to kill them anyway, not dissimilar to
the shoplifting that goes on in American impoverished areas, driving the
stores away, leaving the people with no place to buy food. But hey, why
let the facts get in the way. (The liberal's credo)

http://capmag.com/article.asp?ID=1376

"Summary: Colonial masters never committed anything near the murder and
genocide seen under black rule in Rwanda, Burundi, Uganda, Nigeria,
Mozambique, Somalia and other countries, where millions of blacks have
been slaughtered in unspeakable ways, which include: hacking to death,
boiling in oil, setting on fire and dismemberment."

http://www.pastornet.net.au/jmm/aame/aame0321.htm

Liberals, you can't live with them, you can live without them.

Dr. Artaud

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In article , Dr. Artaud wrote:

Thank you for indicating to the group that there are millions of Arab
Catholics. Though the truth is more like millions of Arab Christians, due
to the Jewish controlled Media, one would believe that all Arabs are
insane Islamics carrying AK47s, all bent on Jihad. Your post has helped
to clarify that the Israelis are killing some Christians that do not
identify with the Islamic ideals.

Sorry to disapoint you. It's the Palestinians that are killing the
Christian Arabs that are left under their control.

If you think otherwise come to Jersualem and look around. There are churches
here that were founded by the followers of Jesus, there are Christian
Arab villages on the Israeli side that flourish. On the Palestinain side,
there are few Chrsitians and they are leave as fast as they can get out.

Since they are not moslem, they are harrased by the Palestinians, and are
forced to "do their part" to help liberate Palestine.

Geoff.

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