MB,

I do not believe in a "one-world socialist conspiracy " to use your
words.

Nor, do I believe in a "Vast Right Wing Conspiracy" as claimed by
Hillary Clinton.

Simply a small "Cadre of Elitist" who envision themselves as the
Leaders of a Liberal Socialist Stateless United World. Which this
Cadre of Elitist "The OWLES" would be the natural rightfull Leaders.

Two Songs come to mind:

Deutschland, Deutschland über alles,
Über alles in der Welt,
.. . .

Vstavaj, prokljat'em zaklejmennyj,
Ves' mir golodnyx i rabov!
Kipit nash razum vozmushchennyj
I v smertnyj boj vesti gotov.
.. . .

These "Elitist" (The OWLES) may call themselves
- Socialist, Communist or Nazi/Fascist.
- - But Their True Intent is Leadership
- - - and Control of the Masses under their Rule.

Proud to say: I Am American ~ RHF
Simply an Old Retired Blue Collar Union Member - Tovarisch [
товарищ ]
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= = = ojunk (Michael Bryant)
= = = wrote in message ...
From: (RHF)

I think that most white folks recognize to some degree on going forms
of discrimination (racism) in our society. But they also view Quotas,
Guide Lines and Set-A-Sides as an 'equal' form of discrimination
(racism) in our society. (Two WRONGS do not make a Right.)

First, and foremost, I want to thank you, RHF, for not casting this issue as
part of the one-world socialist conspiracy that seems to so occupy your
concerns. This is progress.

I don't think we are too far apart on this issue.

I, personally, think quotas and set-asides should be based on economic
opportunities instead of race. Poor whites are often disadvantaged by the poor
communities and schools they attend. Helping these individuals get a fair
chance of education and employment seems more important than creating
opportunity for a minority born to a wealthy family and whose family's wealth
allowed them to attend Harvard.

Hate crime laws are difficult to resolve. While prosecutors often threaten such
charges to facilitate plea bargains, I've noticed that very few cases result in
sentence enhancements. I think there are clearly on-going examples of white
supremacists who deserve to have their sentences significantly enhanced. In our
urban slums, however, poor economic conditions simply make it more likely that
both races are at significantly greater risk of crime. I'm not sure that most
black-on-white crime is out of some desire for racial purity as much as it is
simply the fact that the white victims are perceived to be a more likely means
of quick economic gain.

We have a society where the rich are getting richer and the poor are getting
poorer. No matter what their race might be. Life will continue to be dangerous
under such conditions. Anyone who thinks that there is no such thing as
class-based discrimination in this great nation is as blind as those that
suggest that racial discrimination is a thing of the past.

Everyone deserves a fair break, whatever their race.

But my vision probably just screams "one-word socialist conspiracy" to most
Republicans, who seem to blindly feel that $300 tax cuts and private school
vouchers are the way to resolve class discrimination.

We need new solutions, not just more blind racial and political partisanship.


Michael Bryant, WA4009SWL
Louisville, KY
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"Michael Bryant" wrote
| I, personally, think quotas and set-asides should be based on economic
| opportunities instead of race. Poor whites are often disadvantaged by the
poor
| communities and schools they attend. Helping these individuals get a fair
| chance of education and employment seems more important than creating
| opportunity for a minority born to a wealthy family and whose family's
wealth
| allowed them to attend Harvard.

Finally, folks are achieving an admirable level of sensibility!
In my own pea - brained world, the issue isn't race, it's class,
particularly the vanishing middle class (You know, the class
of citizens most certain to form an ethical core). The rich
truly are getting richer, and the poor are staying poor while
the numbers of folk in the latter group are growing, year by
year. I foresee a future of haves vs. have - nots, and you all
know (or can imagine) what may happen then.....

73,

Steve Lawrence
Burnsville, MN


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