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Old November 3rd 03, 08:59 PM
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Default Where can I buy a NON-Cellular-Blocked radio

I want receiver that can pick up from about 500 Khz to about 2.5 or 3 GHz,
but does NOT have the cellular freqs blocked. Any suggestions?


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Old November 3rd 03, 11:38 PM
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I want receiver that can pick up from about 500 Khz to about 2.5 or 3 GHz,
but does NOT have the cellular freqs blocked. Any suggestions?




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Old November 4th 03, 01:45 AM
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I don't think it's legal to discuss that. I suggest you find some
pre-ECPA hobbyist mags and do some readin'.

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I want receiver that can pick up from about 500 Khz to about 2.5 or 3 GHz,
but does NOT have the cellular freqs blocked. Any suggestions?


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Old November 4th 03, 04:57 AM
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Nobody You Know wrote:

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I want receiver that can pick up from about 500 Khz to about 2.5 or 3 GHz,
but does NOT have the cellular freqs blocked. Any suggestions?



Our wonderful guardians of freedom, the US Congress, made it illegal for
stores to sell radios that receive cellphone calls to the general public.
However, I do not know what, if any, laws pertain to radio sales between
private individuals (cellphone-capable receivers were sold prior to the law,
although I bet most would be hesitant to part with their radio).

Since many (most?) cellphones use digital signals nowadays, they would just
sound like noise on any cell-capable radio anyway. And if a cellphone is being
used in a car, the conversation typically keeps switching frequencies as the
car moves from one cell area to another, which makes tracking the conversation
problematical.

The above is what I believe to be true, but others in this group probably have
more knowledge of the subject than I do.

Too, you might get more knowledgable answers in the rec.radio.scanner
newsgroup.


Analog cellphones show up regularly in local thrift stores nowadays,
having been rendered useless by the march of technology. Remember those
big bulky cellphones from Motorola? A lot of those used the old 800Mhz
cell band, part of which once was US TV channels 80-83 before the FCC
decided to cut channels 70-83 from operation and reassign them. In my
hacker days I used to have lots of fun listening to people's
conversations over an old Sears TV while I 'worked" online.

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Old November 4th 03, 10:18 AM
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Canada


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it takes a whole box to start a barbecue?

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I want receiver that can pick up from about 500 Khz to about 2.5 or 3 GHz,
but does NOT have the cellular freqs blocked. Any suggestions?




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Old November 4th 03, 09:49 PM
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"Scott" wrote in message
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In a country where "free speech" is
almost uniquely true to its name ( for now!),


For always.


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Old November 4th 03, 10:44 PM
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Scott wrote:


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I want receiver that can pick up from about 500 Khz to about 2.5 or 3 GHz,
but does NOT have the cellular freqs blocked. Any suggestions?


Hal - One could theoretically take an afternoon trip into Canada and
grab any number of scanners with that coverage, unblocked.

For instance, the Icom R3 receives 0.495-2450 MHz can be acquired from
many retailers for approx. $599.00 CAD/$446.983 USD.

0ur merchants cannot secure cell unblocked sales to non-Canadian
citizens, but with personal FCC approval that prohibition is waived for
Americans.


Although, Im sure some have circumvented that requirement by simply
paying over the counter with Canadian cash, instead of trying to use an
identifying credit card. I would never condone such a thing, of
course.


I'm sure that Hal could get one of his Canadian listeners to buy a set
for him. I'm not sure how the Canadian govt would stop a Canadian
citizen buying a set then reselling it to an American friend. I know
that software licenses in the US usually give a list of embargoed
nations that the software purchaser should not "be an agent of or be
controlled by"; but in practice anybody with cash can go to most
software retailers and buy anything off the shelf without any
citizenship checks.


The caveats regarding digitalization are legitimate ; however, North
America is presently a forest of analog repeaters: cellular
communications are very accessible. As a cogent aside, the 40 mhz and
900 mhz cordless phone bands are still highly saturated, as well.


Really? I thought those were abandoned long ago.

Shortwave reception isn't bad on some handeld scanners, either. I
recently discovered your WBCQ broadcast here in Canada , some 500 miles
away from their transmission centre and pull it in comfortably.


Maine is the northernmost point in the continental US (what Yanks call
the part of the US that excludes Alaska and Hawaii; also called "the
lower 48") so that is no surprise. Domestic SW stations in the US are
prohibited from broadcasting to domestic audiences; but stations bcing
in English regularly file coverage maps for tx to South America and
nobody at the FCC seems to care.

Congratulations on your 4th year. In a country where "free speech" is
almost uniquely true to its name ( for now!), your critics - though
misaligned with some of your ideas- should unequivocally support
Americans' right to voice them. They certainly have no qualms when it
comes to screaming out *theirs*.


+Cheers+


I'm sure you're familiar with the term "hate speech". That and religious
programming make up most private US SW broadcasting. (WBCQ has some
offbeat, pirate style stuff.) Considering how much antisemitism is on US
shortwave, I'm surprised that the big Jewish lobbies don't actively work
on shutting it down. I personally am all for free speech as long as
somebody doesn't advocate physically harming others. IMO Hal has crossed
this line sometimes.


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Old November 5th 03, 01:47 AM
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Radio World in Canada and http://www.bander.com for openers.

Less to hear in that region lately - most areas have gone digital, so
your Pro 43 and Pro 2006 vintage "pre-ban" radios don't pick up what
they used to.

The Bearcat 9000 and 3000 models were good to hear cell images. I
forget where, but a Google search should bring in the info you need
for that.

Good luck in the hunt.
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