Does anyone know what Grundig's participation in the design of radios bearing
their name is?

It's my impression that several years ago, they got completely out of the radio
design/manufacturing business. As part of a financial restructuring process,
they sold the rights to use their name as it applies to radios only to
Lextronics (now Eton). Eton, an American marketing company, comes up with the
radio ideas and has a Taiwanese engineering company do the actual engineering.
They in turn, have a Chinese company, TecSun actually manufacture the radios.

Am I partially right? I can't seem to find any website that gives the actual
story.

thanks

elfa

ELFA,

"Grundig North America" ETON Corp. (GrundigRadio.Com)

* Licensed by Grundig AG (Germany)
= = = Tot Manufacture and Distribute GRUNDIG Brand Name Radios
in the "North America" Market.

* Has Business Relationships with

* * RL Drake Company of USofA
= = = Engineering and Design Support

* * Tecsun GEM of China (PRC)
= = = Engineering, Design and Manufacturing

NOTE: I am Unaware of any Taiwanese 'commection' to ETON Corp.

FWIW: ETON Corp. is very 'selective' about
what infromation it releases to the public.


yilgr ~ RHF
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= = = elfa
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Does anyone know what Grundig's participation in the design of radios bearing
their name is?

It's my impression that several years ago, they got completely
out of the radio design/manufacturing business. As part of a
financial restructuring process, they sold the rights to use
their name as it applies to radios only to Lextronics (now Eton).
Eton, an American marketing company, comes up with the radio
ideas and has a Taiwanese engineering company do the actual
engineering.
They in turn, have a Chinese company, TecSun actually manufacture
the radios.

Am I partially right? I can't seem to find any website that
gives the actual story.

thanks

elfa

elfa wrote:

Does anyone know what Grundig's participation in the design of radios bearing
their name is?

It's my impression that several years ago, they got completely out of the radio
design/manufacturing business. As part of a financial restructuring process,
they sold the rights to use their name as it applies to radios only to
Lextronics (now Eton). Eton, an American marketing company, comes up with the
radio ideas and has a Taiwanese engineering company do the actual engineering.
They in turn, have a Chinese company, TecSun actually manufacture the radios.

Am I partially right? I can't seem to find any website that gives the actual
story.

thanks

elfa


Most "Grundig" radios are engineered and manufactured in China by
Tecsun, which sells them under the Tecsun name in Asia, Eton in Europe,
and Grundig in North America. The only exception that I know of is the
Satellit 800 which electronically is an old Drake design but which is
made by Tecsun. I'm not sure if Grundig still actually exists or whether
it like many old American brands is simply a name that is bought and
sold.

On Fri, 05 Dec 2003 17:32:17 -0800, tommyknocker
wrote:

Most "Grundig" radios are engineered and manufactured in China by
Tecsun, which sells them under the Tecsun name in Asia, Eton in Europe,
and Grundig in North America. The only exception that I know of is the
Satellit 800 which electronically is an old Drake design but which is
made by Tecsun. I'm not sure if Grundig still actually exists or whether
it like many old American brands is simply a name that is bought and
sold.

Since when is Grundig Werke GmbH (now Grundig Group) - founded by Max
Grundig in 1945 in Germany- "American Brand???? Grundig headquarters
are always situated in Germany! Grundig had always most of his
factories around Nuernberg, in Bayreuth and elswhere in Germany. In
1965 opened a factory in Braga (Portugal), later in France, Wales,
Malaysia etc. For example I've only some 3 years old Grundig TV made
in Germany!
The situation may changed so as in april 2003 Grundig declared itself
bankrupt and is heavily restructured at the moment
(http://www.grundig.com/presse.grundig/index.html)

Only in North America some of Eton's (formerly Lextronix, Palo Alto,
California) under licensing agreement produced items, like shortwave
radios, are sold under the Grundig brand name.

For Europe market situation is that most products come from Grundig
old German factories still continuing working. (but eg YachtBoy 400 is
produced in China for all markets, so it was actually designed in
Grundig Germany).

You can read about Grundig history from 1945 - 1997 (taken from an old
Grundig website materials, not awailable anymore from Grindig itself)
following this link:
http://www.geocities.com/grundigradioboy/myhistory.htm

About the current restructuring situation see:
(http://www.grundig.com/presse.grundi...dig/index.html)
(http://www.grundig.com/presse.grundi...tee/index.html)

Nuremberg, 24th September 2003: Dr Siegfried Beck commented on the
status of investor negotiations: “It remains the case, that no overall
investor will come on board. The Grundig businesses HIS (Home
IntermediaSystems), GCIS (Grundig Car InterMedia System), GBS (Grundig
Business Systems) and SAT Systems will all be handed over to different
investors. Whereas we have made significant progress with GCIS and
have already signed an exclusivity agreement one potential investor,
we still have various offers for the other areas to consider. We will
now continue the process of concrete contract negotiations.”

Tr

On Fri, 05 Dec 2003 17:32:17 -0800, tommyknocker
wrote:

Most "Grundig" radios are engineered and manufactured in China by
Tecsun, which sells them under the Tecsun name in Asia, Eton in Europe,
and Grundig in North America.

I forgot to point out in my first mail about this Grundig matter that
above statement is quite wrong.

As I already said in North America Eton produces some items (mainly
radios) under licensing agreement with Grundig and sells them in
North America under the brandname of Grundig. Eton does not have the
rights to use Grundig brandname in Europe markets.
And Tescun in not the only OEM producer of Eton and Grundig Germany
radios. It is only one of them so it is wong to say that "Tescun is
Grundig Asia or something like that"

About Tescun situation is like with most electronics and computer
industrie - to save costs European and North American companies simply
order their products from Chinese and other Asian OEM companies. In
general products were enginered by European and North American
companies themselves, but it seems lately that now sometimes even
engineering is already made in China . So instead beeing of
electronic industrie European and North American companies are
becoming more and more simply redistributing and branding companies.

Tr

In article , Tr says...

On Fri, 05 Dec 2003 17:32:17 -0800, tommyknocker
wrote:

Most "Grundig" radios are engineered and manufactured in China by
Tecsun, which sells them under the Tecsun name in Asia, Eton in Europe,
and Grundig in North America. The only exception that I know of is the
Satellit 800 which electronically is an old Drake design but which is
made by Tecsun. I'm not sure if Grundig still actually exists or whether
it like many old American brands is simply a name that is bought and
sold.

Since when is Grundig Werke GmbH (now Grundig Group) - founded by Max
Grundig in 1945 in Germany- "American Brand???? Grundig headquarters
are always situated in Germany! Grundig had always most of his
factories around Nuernberg, in Bayreuth and elswhere in Germany. In
1965 opened a factory in Braga (Portugal), later in France, Wales,
Malaysia etc. For example I've only some 3 years old Grundig TV made
in Germany!
The situation may changed so as in april 2003 Grundig declared itself
bankrupt and is heavily restructured at the moment
(http://www.grundig.com/presse.grundig/index.html)

Only in North America some of Eton's (formerly Lextronix, Palo Alto,
California) under licensing agreement produced items, like shortwave
radios, are sold under the Grundig brand name.

For Europe market situation is that most products come from Grundig
old German factories still continuing working. (but eg YachtBoy 400 is
produced in China for all markets, so it was actually designed in
Grundig Germany).

You can read about Grundig history from 1945 - 1997 (taken from an old
Grundig website materials, not awailable anymore from Grindig itself)
following this link:
http://www.geocities.com/grundigradioboy/myhistory.htm

About the current restructuring situation see:
(http://www.grundig.com/presse.grundi...dig/index.html)
(http://www.grundig.com/presse.grundi...tee/index.html)

Nuremberg, 24th September 2003: Dr Siegfried Beck commented on the
status of investor negotiations: “It remains the case, that no overall
investor will come on board. The Grundig businesses HIS (Home
IntermediaSystems), GCIS (Grundig Car InterMedia System), GBS (Grundig
Business Systems) and SAT Systems will all be handed over to different
investors. Whereas we have made significant progress with GCIS and
have already signed an exclusivity agreement one potential investor,
we still have various offers for the other areas to consider. We will
now continue the process of concrete contract negotiations.”

Tr


I guess my basic question is do I think of "fine German engineering" when I
think of Grundig radios or "fine Chinese engineering"?

elfa

elfa schrieb:

I guess my basic question is do I think of "fine German engineering" when I
think of Grundig radios or "fine Chinese engineering"?

In the case of current models like the Sat 800, YB300PE or S-350 -
rather the latter. No idea who actually engineered the YB400, the RF
design at least is rather un-Grundig-ish (a 2nd IF of 455 kHz, that
would rather be typical for SONYs - Grundig always used 450 kHz), though
a number of other details might indicate that it was a co-op production;
well, who knows. The Yachtboy 360 was a typical "contract radio" (i.e.
engineered in Germany, but production outsourced).

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On 6 Dec 2003 12:29:35 -0800, elfa wrote:


I guess my basic question is do I think of "fine German engineering" when I
think of Grundig radios or "fine Chinese engineering"?

elfa

That depends on model. There are both variants for you to choose

Tr

elfa wrote in message ...
In article , Tr says...

On Fri, 05 Dec 2003 17:32:17 -0800, tommyknocker
wrote:

Most "Grundig" radios are engineered and manufactured in China by
Tecsun, which sells them under the Tecsun name in Asia, Eton in Europe,
and Grundig in North America. The only exception that I know of is the
Satellit 800 which electronically is an old Drake design but which is
made by Tecsun. I'm not sure if Grundig still actually exists or whether
it like many old American brands is simply a name that is bought and
sold.

Since when is Grundig Werke GmbH (now Grundig Group) - founded by Max
Grundig in 1945 in Germany- "American Brand???? Grundig headquarters
are always situated in Germany! Grundig had always most of his
factories around Nuernberg, in Bayreuth and elswhere in Germany. In
1965 opened a factory in Braga (Portugal), later in France, Wales,
Malaysia etc. For example I've only some 3 years old Grundig TV made
in Germany!
The situation may changed so as in april 2003 Grundig declared itself
bankrupt and is heavily restructured at the moment
(http://www.grundig.com/presse.grundig/index.html)

Only in North America some of Eton's (formerly Lextronix, Palo Alto,
California) under licensing agreement produced items, like shortwave
radios, are sold under the Grundig brand name.

For Europe market situation is that most products come from Grundig
old German factories still continuing working. (but eg YachtBoy 400 is
produced in China for all markets, so it was actually designed in
Grundig Germany).

You can read about Grundig history from 1945 - 1997 (taken from an old
Grundig website materials, not awailable anymore from Grindig itself)
following this link:
http://www.geocities.com/grundigradioboy/myhistory.htm

About the current restructuring situation see:
(http://www.grundig.com/presse.grundi...dig/index.html)
(http://www.grundig.com/presse.grundi...tee/index.html)

Nuremberg, 24th September 2003: Dr Siegfried Beck commented on the
status of investor negotiations: ?It remains the case, that no overall
investor will come on board. The Grundig businesses HIS (Home
IntermediaSystems), GCIS (Grundig Car InterMedia System), GBS (Grundig
Business Systems) and SAT Systems will all be handed over to different
investors. Whereas we have made significant progress with GCIS and
have already signed an exclusivity agreement one potential investor,
we still have various offers for the other areas to consider. We will
now continue the process of concrete contract negotiations.?

Tr


I guess my basic question is do I think of "fine German engineering" when I
think of Grundig radios or "fine Chinese engineering"?

elfa


ELFA,

Think of "Chop Suey" and Enjoy !
http://chinesefood.about.com/library...y/aa113098.htm
Chop Suey is generally considered to be an American creation.

And Remember... Chinese Food goes good with German Beer )


~ RHF

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