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Old January 3rd 04, 11:18 PM
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Hi.
As a ham radio man, I am hoping you can help me out. I have a DX394 receiver
and usually use ac to power it. I can run from a car battery, with the
adaptor. It requires 12 volts at 500 Ma. What I am wondering is if I can
build an emergency power supply so I can listen using batteries when the
trees take out the power lines s.

What I thought I could do is get a 9v lantern battery and add two 1.5 volt D
Cells . I am not mathematically inclined in the least. If I connect the
positive of the lantern and the negative of the lantern to the corresponding
terminals of the two D Cells, and connect all that to the adaptor plug for
the back of the receiver, will it supply sufficient current to run properly
or not ? I could probably get an actual car battery, but would rather not
have that in the apartment.


V Solidarity


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Old January 3rd 04, 11:29 PM
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Maximus wrote:

Hi.
As a ham radio man, I am hoping you can help me out. I have a DX394 receiver
and usually use ac to power it. I can run from a car battery, with the
adaptor. It requires 12 volts at 500 Ma. What I am wondering is if I can
build an emergency power supply so I can listen using batteries when the
trees take out the power lines s.

What I thought I could do is get a 9v lantern battery and add two 1.5 volt D
Cells . I am not mathematically inclined in the least. If I connect the
positive of the lantern and the negative of the lantern to the corresponding
terminals of the two D Cells, and connect all that to the adaptor plug for
the back of the receiver, will it supply sufficient current to run properly
or not ? I could probably get an actual car battery, but would rather not
have that in the apartment.

V Solidarity


What you'd probably rather get is a 12 volt gel cell and a trickle charger.

Steve
Holland, MI


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Old January 3rd 04, 11:46 PM
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Hey V...go down to Battery World or something close, perhaps a local auto
parts store...and buy yourself a 14Ahr sealed lead acid battery (gel cell)
and a charger for it.

I run most of my stuff off this type of battery.

No hydrogen build up either.
"Maximus" wrote in message
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Hi.
As a ham radio man, I am hoping you can help me out. I have a DX394

receiver
and usually use ac to power it. I can run from a car battery, with the
adaptor. It requires 12 volts at 500 Ma. What I am wondering is if I can
build an emergency power supply so I can listen using batteries when the
trees take out the power lines s.

What I thought I could do is get a 9v lantern battery and add two 1.5 volt

D
Cells . I am not mathematically inclined in the least. If I connect the
positive of the lantern and the negative of the lantern to the

corresponding
terminals of the two D Cells, and connect all that to the adaptor plug for
the back of the receiver, will it supply sufficient current to run

properly
or not ? I could probably get an actual car battery, but would rather not
have that in the apartment.


V Solidarity




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Old January 4th 04, 03:32 AM
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Thanks everyone ! But about the current, how much current is a gel cell
going to provide ? My concern was burnin gup the radio because the battery
would produce too much current. That was why I mentioned the mathematical
handicap LOL. I was thinking I would have to reduce the current with a
resistor or something, and had no idea how I would calculate the value of
the resistor. Thanks very much S.
P.S. the "V" is "V for Victory". I couldn't figure out how to make a CW
version that I could insert in a signature.

V
"Freddie" wrote in message
nk.net...
Hey V...go down to Battery World or something close, perhaps a local auto
parts store...and buy yourself a 14Ahr sealed lead acid battery (gel cell)
and a charger for it.

I run most of my stuff off this type of battery.

No hydrogen build up either.
"Maximus" wrote in message
hlink.net...
Hi.
As a ham radio man, I am hoping you can help me out. I have a DX394

receiver
and usually use ac to power it. I can run from a car battery, with the
adaptor. It requires 12 volts at 500 Ma. What I am wondering is if I can
build an emergency power supply so I can listen using batteries when the
trees take out the power lines s.

What I thought I could do is get a 9v lantern battery and add two 1.5

volt
D
Cells . I am not mathematically inclined in the least. If I connect the
positive of the lantern and the negative of the lantern to the

corresponding
terminals of the two D Cells, and connect all that to the adaptor plug

for
the back of the receiver, will it supply sufficient current to run

properly
or not ? I could probably get an actual car battery, but would rather

not
have that in the apartment.


V Solidarity








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Old January 4th 04, 04:20 AM
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Maximus wrote:

Thanks everyone ! But about the current, how much current is a gel cell
going to provide ? My concern was burnin gup the radio because the battery
would produce too much current. That was why I mentioned the mathematical
handicap LOL. I was thinking I would have to reduce the current with a
resistor or something, and had no idea how I would calculate the value of
the resistor. Thanks very much S.
P.S. the "V" is "V for Victory". I couldn't figure out how to make a CW
version that I could insert in a signature.


If the battery is close to the correct voltage for the radio (12-V in
your case), it will use the right amount of current without having to
regulate it. The larger the battery capacity in Mah or Ah, the longer
the radio will run before you have to recharge the battery.


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Old January 4th 04, 04:41 AM
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The gel cell should certainly provide enough current. Your radio will not burn
up, it will draw the amount of current that it needs, regardless of how much the
gel cell is capable of providing.

Maximus wrote:

Thanks everyone ! But about the current, how much current is a gel cell
going to provide ? My concern was burnin gup the radio because the battery
would produce too much current. That was why I mentioned the mathematical
handicap LOL. I was thinking I would have to reduce the current with a
resistor or something, and had no idea how I would calculate the value of
the resistor. Thanks very much S.
P.S. the "V" is "V for Victory". I couldn't figure out how to make a CW
version that I could insert in a signature.

V
"Freddie" wrote in message
nk.net...
Hey V...go down to Battery World or something close, perhaps a local auto
parts store...and buy yourself a 14Ahr sealed lead acid battery (gel cell)
and a charger for it.

I run most of my stuff off this type of battery.

No hydrogen build up either.
"Maximus" wrote in message
hlink.net...
Hi.
As a ham radio man, I am hoping you can help me out. I have a DX394

receiver
and usually use ac to power it. I can run from a car battery, with the
adaptor. It requires 12 volts at 500 Ma. What I am wondering is if I can
build an emergency power supply so I can listen using batteries when the
trees take out the power lines s.

What I thought I could do is get a 9v lantern battery and add two 1.5

volt
D
Cells . I am not mathematically inclined in the least. If I connect the
positive of the lantern and the negative of the lantern to the

corresponding
terminals of the two D Cells, and connect all that to the adaptor plug

for
the back of the receiver, will it supply sufficient current to run

properly
or not ? I could probably get an actual car battery, but would rather

not
have that in the apartment.


V Solidarity





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Old January 4th 04, 06:38 AM
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Lantern bateries come in 6-volt and 12-volt versions. They ain't cheap and they
often derate by setting on a store shelf a long time.

The little gel cell, float-charged by an ac or dc adapter, or solar cell, will
work fine. Any of these should provide current at least equal to the duty cycle
of the load current. Your radio requires 500 ma. So, if you use the radio an
average of one hour out of every ten, then the charger should provide at least
50 ma.

A correction regarding your suggested series connection of batteries: Connect
the positive terminal of one to the negative terminal of the other. The far
ends then would connect positive to positive and negative to negative on the
radio.

Bill, K5BY
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Old January 4th 04, 11:38 AM
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Regardless of the power source AC or DC.

1. If the Voltage is approprite (matched to) for the Device.

2. Then it is the Device (Load) that determines the Current Flow.

EXAMPLE: A small 115VAC powered Transistor Radio plugged into
the 20 Amp 115VAC Outlet will NOT draw 20 Amps and Burn Out.

be101 ~ RHF
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Maximus wrote:

Thanks everyone ! But about the current, how much current is a gel cell
going to provide ? My concern was burnin gup the radio because the battery
would produce too much current. That was why I mentioned the mathematical
handicap LOL. I was thinking I would have to reduce the current with a
resistor or something, and had no idea how I would calculate the value of
the resistor. Thanks very much S.
P.S. the "V" is "V for Victory". I couldn't figure out how to make a CW
version that I could insert in a signature.


If the battery is close to the correct voltage for the radio (12-V in
your case), it will use the right amount of current without having to
regulate it. The larger the battery capacity in Mah or Ah, the longer
the radio will run before you have to recharge the battery.


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Old January 5th 04, 02:04 AM
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Thanks again. It is good to know ! enjoy your evening.
V
"N8KDV" wrote in message
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The gel cell should certainly provide enough current. Your radio will not

burn
up, it will draw the amount of current that it needs, regardless of how

much the
gel cell is capable of providing.

Maximus wrote:

Thanks everyone ! But about the current, how much current is a gel cell
going to provide ? My concern was burnin gup the radio because the

battery
would produce too much current. That was why I mentioned the

mathematical
handicap LOL. I was thinking I would have to reduce the current with a
resistor or something, and had no idea how I would calculate the value

of
the resistor. Thanks very much S.
P.S. the "V" is "V for Victory". I couldn't figure out how to make a CW
version that I could insert in a signature.

V
"Freddie" wrote in message
nk.net...
Hey V...go down to Battery World or something close, perhaps a local

auto
parts store...and buy yourself a 14Ahr sealed lead acid battery (gel

cell)
and a charger for it.

I run most of my stuff off this type of battery.

No hydrogen build up either.
"Maximus" wrote in message
hlink.net...
Hi.
As a ham radio man, I am hoping you can help me out. I have a DX394
receiver
and usually use ac to power it. I can run from a car battery, with

the
adaptor. It requires 12 volts at 500 Ma. What I am wondering is if I

can
build an emergency power supply so I can listen using batteries when

the
trees take out the power lines s.

What I thought I could do is get a 9v lantern battery and add two

1.5
volt
D
Cells . I am not mathematically inclined in the least. If I connect

the
positive of the lantern and the negative of the lantern to the
corresponding
terminals of the two D Cells, and connect all that to the adaptor

plug
for
the back of the receiver, will it supply sufficient current to run
properly
or not ? I could probably get an actual car battery, but would

rather
not
have that in the apartment.


V Solidarity







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