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Old March 9th 04, 04:20 AM
Ron G
 
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Default computer problem, maybe a (transmitted) signal---I need your help on this one------

I have a problem with my computer, and I really need some expert help-----

Periodically, maybe every 30 minutes sometimes, or sometimes only 3 minutes
apart, the computer speakers produce a rogue--

dit-dita-dit-dit, dit-dit-dit-dit

Now I have run spybot, and anti-virus, and nothing shows up as a problem.

Sometimes it seems like there are variations in the sound level as compared
to the last time.
Almost like it is being transmitted, and if not aimed right, the power level
would be different each time.

I had it appear once when I had a 30 mhz portable phone by the computer, and
I was dialing.

This following part will sound paranoid, but you would have to meet my
neighbor---------

There is a **real** screwy character who lives behind me, and I think he is
a school counseler. Could he have gotten such a device from some of his
students? Something that transmits a signal? I mean, this guy goes out of
his way **real** hard to be an absolute pri*k.
Sometimes, he is fiddling around by his patio door (facing toward my home),
when I hear it from my computer.

It just did it again while I was typing right now. This time it was much
louder than usual.

He even gets mad if I turn on my 40 watt light bulb above my printer, and
the light shines out my back window. He starts flashing his spotlights on
and off for 4 to 5 hours (aimed horizontal right at our house
windows)--Image, a 50 year old guy doing this until 1:45 AM. We have lived
here 39 years, they moved in 4 years ago, and raise hell at anything anyone
does. Even mean screwy spotlight games.

How can I find out if this is a virus, which may look into my private files,
or the **character** behind me who possibly has access to stuff that
students may dream up? I have a shortwave set, usual frequencies, to
possibly check for a transmission, but I would need to know what frequency,
if these things even exist at all.

The other thing is just simply a virus that has embedded for about 10 months
now.

Anyone got any ideas?

I need to determine what I have, if it is a virus that could disclose my
file information, or if its just the stupid idiot behind me.
Anyone ever heard of this? Is there a newsgroup that I should address this
to?
It's been there for about 9 months, No one has had a problem with anything
"attached "to any post I have ever sent.

I wonder if it is transmitted through the air? (by my neighbor?)

Anyone got any ideas?

Thanks----
Ron
Please, no ufo or martian stuff-----I really need help on this one----
Thanks-----



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Old March 9th 04, 05:34 AM
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There is a **real** screwy character who lives behind me, and I think he is
a school counseler. Could he have gotten such a device from some of his
students? Something that transmits a signal? I mean, this guy goes out of
his way **real** hard to be an absolute pri*k.


You need to lok at some revenge sites maybe. ;-) Many out there.
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Old March 9th 04, 05:41 AM
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Could be a Trojan -- but most of them that I've ever seen would not give
clues to their presence, and would be caught by an antivirus program scan.
More likely, it's a rogue application that is loading without your
knowledge, but isn't common spyware.

Try this -- download ZoneAlarm (a limited, trial version is free) and it
will tell you if your computer is trying to connect to another by monitoring
all of your ports and asking permission to open them. See if the beeps
coincide with an attempt to communicate with a port. If it does,
CTRL/ALT/DEL and have a look at your system monitor to see what's running,
and close the rogue app.

Another thing I would do is to get the X-Setup utility by Xteq Systems. Run
it, and go to the standard interface (for power users).

Now, click the "Start Up/Shut Down" tab -- and then select "Start Up." You
will see tabs for several Windows versions -- click the appropriate one.

Now click on "AutoRun - Part 1," then "AutoRun Programs."

A window will open on the upper right of your screen showing you the
programs that are loading automatically as you boot your computer. See if
anything looks suspicious. If something is, you can use the "disable"
option to disable it (without deleting it). To test, you'll need to reboot.
Repeat as necessary.

Follow the same for "AutoRun - Part 2."

You can find both programs for free he http://www.majorgeeks.com/

Pretty handy site -- lots of cool apps.

-- Stinger

It will
"Ron G" wrote in message
...
I have a problem with my computer, and I really need some expert help-----

Periodically, maybe every 30 minutes sometimes, or sometimes only 3

minutes
apart, the computer speakers produce a rogue--

dit-dita-dit-dit, dit-dit-dit-dit

Now I have run spybot, and anti-virus, and nothing shows up as a problem.

Sometimes it seems like there are variations in the sound level as

compared
to the last time.
Almost like it is being transmitted, and if not aimed right, the power

level
would be different each time.

I had it appear once when I had a 30 mhz portable phone by the computer,

and
I was dialing.

This following part will sound paranoid, but you would have to meet my
neighbor---------

There is a **real** screwy character who lives behind me, and I think he

is
a school counseler. Could he have gotten such a device from some of his
students? Something that transmits a signal? I mean, this guy goes out of
his way **real** hard to be an absolute pri*k.
Sometimes, he is fiddling around by his patio door (facing toward my

home),
when I hear it from my computer.

It just did it again while I was typing right now. This time it was much
louder than usual.

He even gets mad if I turn on my 40 watt light bulb above my printer, and
the light shines out my back window. He starts flashing his spotlights on
and off for 4 to 5 hours (aimed horizontal right at our house
windows)--Image, a 50 year old guy doing this until 1:45 AM. We have lived
here 39 years, they moved in 4 years ago, and raise hell at anything

anyone
does. Even mean screwy spotlight games.

How can I find out if this is a virus, which may look into my private

files,
or the **character** behind me who possibly has access to stuff that
students may dream up? I have a shortwave set, usual frequencies, to
possibly check for a transmission, but I would need to know what

frequency,
if these things even exist at all.

The other thing is just simply a virus that has embedded for about 10

months
now.

Anyone got any ideas?

I need to determine what I have, if it is a virus that could disclose my
file information, or if its just the stupid idiot behind me.
Anyone ever heard of this? Is there a newsgroup that I should address this
to?
It's been there for about 9 months, No one has had a problem with anything
"attached "to any post I have ever sent.

I wonder if it is transmitted through the air? (by my neighbor?)

Anyone got any ideas?

Thanks----
Ron
Please, no ufo or martian stuff-----I really need help on this one----
Thanks-----



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Old March 9th 04, 05:58 AM
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"Ron G" wrote in message
...
I have a problem with my computer, and I really need some expert help-----

Periodically, maybe every 30 minutes sometimes, or sometimes only 3

minutes
apart, the computer speakers produce a rogue--

dit-dita-dit-dit, dit-dit-dit-dit


I suspect it's not your computer at all, but your speakers. Computer
speakers are notoriously bad for picking up stray RF and turning it into
audio. It happens with my little 2meter HT all the time. I suspect that you
have a ham operator nearby who is either operating CW or possibly a repeater
or other transmitter that has a CW ID (if it's actually coming out as tones,
this is the more likely case). It could be someone transmitting tones in CW
maliciously, but I would look into these other possibilities first.



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Old March 9th 04, 06:22 AM
Leonard Martin
 
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In article , "Ron G"
wrote:

I have a problem with my computer, and I really need some expert help-----

Periodically, maybe every 30 minutes sometimes, or sometimes only 3 minutes
apart, the computer speakers produce a rogue--

dit-dita-dit-dit, dit-dit-dit-dit

Now I have run spybot, and anti-virus, and nothing shows up as a problem.

Sometimes it seems like there are variations in the sound level as compared
to the last time.
Almost like it is being transmitted, and if not aimed right, the power level
would be different each time.

I had it appear once when I had a 30 mhz portable phone by the computer, and
I was dialing.

This following part will sound paranoid, but you would have to meet my
neighbor---------

There is a **real** screwy character who lives behind me, and I think he is
a school counseler. Could he have gotten such a device from some of his
students? Something that transmits a signal? I mean, this guy goes out of
his way **real** hard to be an absolute pri*k.
Sometimes, he is fiddling around by his patio door (facing toward my home),
when I hear it from my computer.

It just did it again while I was typing right now. This time it was much
louder than usual.

He even gets mad if I turn on my 40 watt light bulb above my printer, and
the light shines out my back window. He starts flashing his spotlights on
and off for 4 to 5 hours (aimed horizontal right at our house
windows)--Image, a 50 year old guy doing this until 1:45 AM. We have lived
here 39 years, they moved in 4 years ago, and raise hell at anything anyone
does. Even mean screwy spotlight games.

How can I find out if this is a virus, which may look into my private files,
or the **character** behind me who possibly has access to stuff that
students may dream up? I have a shortwave set, usual frequencies, to
possibly check for a transmission, but I would need to know what frequency,
if these things even exist at all.

The other thing is just simply a virus that has embedded for about 10 months
now.

Anyone got any ideas?

I need to determine what I have, if it is a virus that could disclose my
file information, or if its just the stupid idiot behind me.
Anyone ever heard of this? Is there a newsgroup that I should address this
to?
It's been there for about 9 months, No one has had a problem with anything
"attached "to any post I have ever sent.

I wonder if it is transmitted through the air? (by my neighbor?)

Anyone got any ideas?

Thanks----
Ron
Please, no ufo or martian stuff-----I really need help on this one----
Thanks-----


This is masterful! There's absolutely no way I can tell if it's a put-on
or not.

At the risk of looking like an idiot, I'll give a serious answer: That
is obviously a local ham (or anyone else owning a device capable of
transmitting morse codeIwhose signal is being picked up by your computer
or its speakers, or the wiring between them.

Leonard

--
"Everything that rises must converge"
--Flannery O'Connor


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Old March 9th 04, 02:37 PM
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You can search the FCC database for amateur radio operators in your area.
Go to www.fcc.gov and find the search area for the ULS (Universal Licensing
System), then search by county looking under the amateur radio service
selection. Sorry I don't have a link...maybe someone else does.


"Brenda Ann" wrote in message
...

"Ron G" wrote in message
...
I have a problem with my computer, and I really need some expert

help-----

Periodically, maybe every 30 minutes sometimes, or sometimes only 3

minutes
apart, the computer speakers produce a rogue--

dit-dita-dit-dit, dit-dit-dit-dit


I suspect it's not your computer at all, but your speakers. Computer
speakers are notoriously bad for picking up stray RF and turning it into
audio. It happens with my little 2meter HT all the time. I suspect that

you
have a ham operator nearby who is either operating CW or possibly a

repeater
or other transmitter that has a CW ID (if it's actually coming out as

tones,
this is the more likely case). It could be someone transmitting tones in

CW
maliciously, but I would look into these other possibilities first.



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Old March 9th 04, 09:59 PM
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Leonard Martin wrote in
:

In article , "Ron G"
wrote:

I have a problem with my computer, and I really need some expert
help-----

Periodically, maybe every 30 minutes sometimes, or sometimes only 3
minutes apart, the computer speakers produce a rogue--

dit-dita-dit-dit, dit-dit-dit-dit

Now I have run spybot, and anti-virus, and nothing shows up as a
problem.

Sometimes it seems like there are variations in the sound level as
compared to the last time.
Almost like it is being transmitted, and if not aimed right, the power
level would be different each time.

I had it appear once when I had a 30 mhz portable phone by the computer,
and I was dialing.

This following part will sound paranoid, but you would have to meet my
neighbor---------

There is a **real** screwy character who lives behind me, and I think he
is a school counseler. Could he have gotten such a device from some of
his students? Something that transmits a signal? I mean, this guy goes
out of his way **real** hard to be an absolute pri*k.
Sometimes, he is fiddling around by his patio door (facing toward my
home), when I hear it from my computer.

It just did it again while I was typing right now. This time it was much
louder than usual.

He even gets mad if I turn on my 40 watt light bulb above my printer,
and the light shines out my back window. He starts flashing his
spotlights on and off for 4 to 5 hours (aimed horizontal right at our
house windows)--Image, a 50 year old guy doing this until 1:45 AM. We
have lived here 39 years, they moved in 4 years ago, and raise hell at
anything anyone does. Even mean screwy spotlight games.

How can I find out if this is a virus, which may look into my private
files, or the **character** behind me who possibly has access to stuff
that students may dream up? I have a shortwave set, usual frequencies,
to possibly check for a transmission, but I would need to know what
frequency, if these things even exist at all.

The other thing is just simply a virus that has embedded for about 10
months now.

Anyone got any ideas?

I need to determine what I have, if it is a virus that could disclose my
file information, or if its just the stupid idiot behind me.
Anyone ever heard of this? Is there a newsgroup that I should address
this to?
It's been there for about 9 months, No one has had a problem with
anything "attached "to any post I have ever sent.

I wonder if it is transmitted through the air? (by my neighbor?)

Anyone got any ideas?

Thanks----
Ron
Please, no ufo or martian stuff-----I really need help on this one----
Thanks-----


This is masterful! There's absolutely no way I can tell if it's a put-on
or not.

At the risk of looking like an idiot, I'll give a serious answer: That
is obviously a local ham (or anyone else owning a device capable of
transmitting morse codeIwhose signal is being picked up by your computer
or its speakers, or the wiring between them.

Leonard


Oh sure blame the ham LOL Could also be a number of other things in
cluding duch mundane things as thermostats and wireless door bells. But
yeah blame the "ham" LMFAO



--
Panzer

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Old March 10th 04, 01:27 AM
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Leonard Martin wrote in message
...

This is masterful! There's absolutely no way I can tell if it's a put-on
or not.

At the risk of looking like an idiot, I'll give a serious answer: That
is obviously a local ham (or anyone else owning a device capable of
transmitting morse codeIwhose signal is being picked up by your computer
or its speakers, or the wiring between them.

Leonard

--
"Everything that rises must converge"
--Flannery O'Connor


No, I couldn't ever make one like this one up.

I'm seriously looking for (reasonable) input.

I'm not at all paranoid. :-)
'Couldn't be, and be retired as VP Eng after 27 years, plus being an expert
witness (corporate, design), around the US, multiple corporate lawsuits.
Never worked so damned hard in my whole life! Glad I'm retired!

Anyhoo, I'll be trying out the tinfoil and shielding ideas.
I do have a land line phone literally right next to my computer, and the
same land line had 30 Mhz portables connected to it in other rooms, although
they are hung on the base stations usually.

The guy behind me is such a basket case, that I put absolutely nothing past
him. Other neighbors stay away from him also, like the plague.

I would be happy to find it is something simple and innoculous, like a
telephone line.

BTW, I remember when I was 16, repairing TV's in the late 50's, neighbors
would call me up and bitch that I must be using ham equipment.
I had no Ham equipment, I just fixed TV's.
Many times I was away for the weekend 25 miles away!
So I hate to see Hams nailed.
I understand about TV manufacturers eliminating TV shielding from the 1960's
on, and it is not a Ham's fault when it nails TV.
It's cheap TV design. No shielding, like they used to do.

Oh, and it just did the "dit---etc---etc" as I was just typing the last
sentence.

Thanks for any further ideas.

Thanks----
Ron


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Old March 10th 04, 05:24 AM
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Ron G wrote:
Leonard Martin wrote in message
...


This is masterful! There's absolutely no way I can tell if it's a put-on
or not.

At the risk of looking like an idiot, I'll give a serious answer: That
is obviously a local ham (or anyone else owning a device capable of
transmitting morse codeIwhose signal is being picked up by your computer
or its speakers, or the wiring between them.

Leonard

--
"Everything that rises must converge"
--Flannery O'Connor



No, I couldn't ever make one like this one up.

I'm seriously looking for (reasonable) input.

I'm not at all paranoid. :-)
'Couldn't be, and be retired as VP Eng after 27 years, plus being an expert
witness (corporate, design), around the US, multiple corporate lawsuits.
Never worked so damned hard in my whole life! Glad I'm retired!

Anyhoo, I'll be trying out the tinfoil and shielding ideas.
I do have a land line phone literally right next to my computer, and the
same land line had 30 Mhz portables connected to it in other rooms, although
they are hung on the base stations usually.

The guy behind me is such a basket case, that I put absolutely nothing past
him. Other neighbors stay away from him also, like the plague.

I would be happy to find it is something simple and innoculous, like a
telephone line.

BTW, I remember when I was 16, repairing TV's in the late 50's, neighbors
would call me up and bitch that I must be using ham equipment.
I had no Ham equipment, I just fixed TV's.
Many times I was away for the weekend 25 miles away!
So I hate to see Hams nailed.
I understand about TV manufacturers eliminating TV shielding from the 1960's
on, and it is not a Ham's fault when it nails TV.
It's cheap TV design. No shielding, like they used to do.

Oh, and it just did the "dit---etc---etc" as I was just typing the last
sentence.

Thanks for any further ideas.

Thanks----
Ron


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One of the computers in my office had an integrated sound card, and
periodically, it would start a variable rate ch ch ch ticking sound- for
a couple seconds, and then it would go away - happened once or twice
most days. That building was practically a Faraday cage - so I'm sure
it was internal to the computer.






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One of the computers in my office had an integrated sound card, and
periodically, it would start a variable rate ch ch ch ticking sound- for
a couple seconds, and then it would go away - happened once or twice
most days. That building was practically a Faraday cage - so I'm sure
it was internal to the computer.


Ahhhh yes, how well I remember building Faraday cages when I worked in a
Research Lab. :-)

I would orient it on a wooden step-ladder, midway between floor and ceiling,
then turn and tilt until I could neutralize out the electrostatic field of
the earth.

Then, the small electronic object I had inside the Cage, could be tested
without an interfering quiescent electrostatic field.

Best----
Ron


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