N8KDV wrote:

B Banton wrote:

On Fri, 09 Apr 2004 20:35:17 -0400, N8KDV
wrote:



Michael Bryant wrote:

From: N8KDV

You did lie about having the PhD did you not?

Repeating for the slow-reading N8KDV:
I thought I had it, as I had completed all the requirements. A technicality and
the departure of one of the professors sitting on my dissertation committee
kept me from being conferred a PhD. I have explained this before. And I really
have completed the coursework for two PhD's one in Rhetoric & Public Address
and another one in Interpersonal Communication.

Actually you only qualify for one PhD, and that one is in Lying and Fabrication!

I know all of that leaves me
far behind ...

Yes indeed Fat Boy, you are terribly far behind! Good luck catching up!

You're very hostile N8. Did your parents divorce early on in your
childhood?

No. Like Bryant, you are incorrect!

And, like Bryant, it must really suck to be wrong so often!

It boggles the mind!

On Fri, 09 Apr 2004 21:50:33 -0400, N8KDV
wrote:



N8KDV wrote:

B Banton wrote:

On Fri, 09 Apr 2004 20:35:17 -0400, N8KDV
wrote:



Michael Bryant wrote:

From: N8KDV

You did lie about having the PhD did you not?

Repeating for the slow-reading N8KDV:
I thought I had it, as I had completed all the requirements. A technicality and
the departure of one of the professors sitting on my dissertation committee
kept me from being conferred a PhD. I have explained this before. And I really
have completed the coursework for two PhD's one in Rhetoric & Public Address
and another one in Interpersonal Communication.

Actually you only qualify for one PhD, and that one is in Lying and Fabrication!

I know all of that leaves me
far behind ...

Yes indeed Fat Boy, you are terribly far behind! Good luck catching up!

You're very hostile N8. Did your parents divorce early on in your
childhood?

No. Like Bryant, you are incorrect!

And, like Bryant, it must really suck to be wrong so often!

It boggles the mind!


But you can't prove they're not divorced. It boggles the mind. It
really does. Really.

"Telamon" wrote in message
...

If you are a Commie we will find out! Then we will send Mikey over to
bat you about the head with his fake PhD.



You guys and your time-tested methods. You never change. You figure just
cause it worked on Comrade Trotsky, it'll work every time.

Frank Dresser

B Banton wrote:

On Fri, 09 Apr 2004 21:50:33 -0400, N8KDV
wrote:



N8KDV wrote:

B Banton wrote:

On Fri, 09 Apr 2004 20:35:17 -0400, N8KDV
wrote:



Michael Bryant wrote:

From: N8KDV

You did lie about having the PhD did you not?

Repeating for the slow-reading N8KDV:
I thought I had it, as I had completed all the requirements. A technicality and
the departure of one of the professors sitting on my dissertation committee
kept me from being conferred a PhD. I have explained this before. And I really
have completed the coursework for two PhD's one in Rhetoric & Public Address
and another one in Interpersonal Communication.

Actually you only qualify for one PhD, and that one is in Lying and Fabrication!

I know all of that leaves me
far behind ...

Yes indeed Fat Boy, you are terribly far behind! Good luck catching up!

You're very hostile N8. Did your parents divorce early on in your
childhood?

No. Like Bryant, you are incorrect!

And, like Bryant, it must really suck to be wrong so often!

It boggles the mind!

But you can't prove they're not divorced. It boggles the mind. It
really does. Really.

But you intimated that perhaps they were! So the ball is in your court!

N8KDV schrieb:


...That'll hurt even worse!


The only thing that hurts is your offtopic struggling and fighting.
Take a bath and beware of the whales.

"Michael Bryant" wrote in message
...
From: "Stinger"

Very likely,
many people listening to some of the more esoteric or fringe radio hosts
(Gallagher, Reagan, etc.) would not necessarily be the same ones that
read
William Buckley or even George Will.

Duh. That was hard to guess. Do you think 15% of conservatives (can) read
Buckley or Will?

Liberals do not have a monopoly on
college graduates.


But, you'd probably blast college teachers (more educated than just
college) as
being the vanguard of the commie invasion, right?Remember, you do exactly
that
later in your post!

Additionally, I think an easy case could be made that elitist dumbasses
such
as yourself

Aren't you the same guy that was lambasting liberals as namecallers
because
they lack intellect?! Did you have a lobotomy, yesterday?


must rely on an ever-larger, uneducated (or lower-educated) mass
of people to try to elect your socialist dream teams.

So, do you really want to stick to the ASININE claim that liberals appeal
more
to the lower rungs of society than do conservatives? Now, that's boggling!

With the help of
their alliance with teachers unions, the Democratic agenda of late has
been
to create a populace as uneducated as possible, convinced that they must
be
reliant upon the government.

Oh, I get it. Teachers are against education. They want ignorant students.
That
must be why Bush's Secretary of Education calls teachers terrorists.


-- Stinger


Stinger, I've generally respected your posts more than most of the
so-called
intellectual conservatives on this NG. But this last one was pure,
unadulterated horse****. I'm sorry to see what a negative effect this NG
is
having on you.


Michael Bryant, WA4009SWL
Louisville, KY
R75, S800, RX320, SW77, ICF2010K,
DX398, 7600G, 6800W, RF2200, 7600A
GE SRll, Pro-2006, Pro-2010, Pro-76
(remove "nojunk" to reply)

Lately, I've been reading this twit's postings and watching him claim that
all conservatives are poorly-educated, gullible rednecks. That
condescending, elitist snobbery in ill-thought post after post disgusts me.
He's not worthy of my respect.

His moronic belief that all conservatives listen (and believe) every
right-wing guy in front of a microphone is just plain stupid. His complete
ignorance of demographics is astonishing, and his "we know what is best for
you people" tone is contemptible.

Actually, I very much support the idea of tenured professors in the
(semi)-protected environment of academia. I do wish that they would keep
some grip on the reality of the outside world by doing some activities
outside academia, such
as consulting. There is no teacher better than experience.

However, my accusation against the teacher's unions in on-target and true.
These organizations fight against testing teachers for ability, testing
students for learned skills or achievement, and against rooting out which
teachers are short-changing our children's education. Just as with any
other union, their agenda is all about protecting jobs (for even the worst,
as long as they have seniority) and getting more for themselves. The
students' interests are not even in their equation. Look at the absolute
horror that is being uncovered each and every day in the New Orleans
municipal school system (in which the teachers unions have vigorously
opposed any reforms).

As far as making any "asinine" claim that Democrats have a lock on the
uneducated, that was not what my post said. If you re-read both Leonard's
and my post, you'll see that I was refuting his conjecture that the
Democrats had all of the educated voters. My assertion is that they have at
least as many of the uneducated, and also that Democratic politicians have
learned to pander to them.

-- Stinger

In article ,
Volker Tonn wrote:

N8KDV schrieb:


...That'll hurt even worse!


The only thing that hurts is your offtopic struggling and fighting.
Take a bath and beware of the whales.

What's this bath and whale thing you got going?

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

From: "Stinger"

Lately, I've been reading this twit's postings and watching him claim that
all conservatives are poorly-educated, gullible rednecks. That
condescending, elitist snobbery in ill-thought post after post disgusts me.
He's not worthy of my respect.

I do not believe that all Republicans are poorly-educated gullible rednecks. To
suggest that I have said that is clearly hyperbole. If that's what you're
reading, Stinger, your own perception is skewing your interpretation. I do
believe that you'll find far more poorly-educated gullible rednecks voting
Republican than Democrat. That's not suggesting that I think the Republican
party is solely reliant on that voting bloc.

His moronic belief that all conservatives listen (and believe) every
right-wing guy in front of a microphone is just plain stupid. His complete
ignorance of demographics is astonishing, and his "we know what is best for
you people" tone is contemptible.

Wow. And Republicans don't preach "we know what is best for you people"?
Abortion? Sex on TV? The imposition of democracy? Look in the mirror. What you
hate about the "other" is what you ignore about yourself.

Actually, I very much support the idea of tenured professors in the
(semi)-protected environment of academia. I do wish that they would keep
some grip on the reality of the outside world by doing some activities
outside academia, such
as consulting. There is no teacher better than experience.

Your point? Running a factory puts you more in touch with reality? Yeah. It
also provides an interesting bias.

However, my accusation against the teacher's unions in on-target and true.
These organizations fight against testing teachers for ability, testing
students for learned skills or achievement, and against rooting out which
teachers are short-changing our children's education. Just as with any
other union, their agenda is all about protecting jobs (for even the worst,
as long as they have seniority) and getting more for themselves. The
students' interests are not even in their equation. Look at the absolute
horror that is being uncovered each and every day in the New Orleans
municipal school system (in which the teachers unions have vigorously
opposed any reforms).


There are problems in inner-city schools. There are many ill-prepared teachers.
But eliminating the few teachers that will volunteer to work in inner-city
conditions is hardly going to resolve the situation. Disparities in
district-to-district funding are resulting in teaching salaries in public
schools that have simply driven most qualified teachers out of public
education. I couldn't live on those salaries. Nor would I risk my life daily to
teach in a situation where my life was literally threatened every single day.
Driving the few remaining (and mainly minority) educators out of teaching with
culturally-loaded certification tests is akin to only letting people into
school if they happen to have a 120 IQ.

I'm willing to bet that you feel any unions are a threat to America. No unions
in your plant, right?

As far as making any "asinine" claim that Democrats have a lock on the
uneducated, that was not what my post said. If you re-read both Leonard's
and my post, you'll see that I was refuting his conjecture that the
Democrats had all of the educated voters. My assertion is that they have at
least as many of the uneducated, and also that Democratic politicians have
learned to pander to them.


Yes, there are uneducated on many sides. I feel that you'll find more
inner-city uneducated of all races on the side of the Democrats. I think you'll
find far more rural uneducated southern whites voting Republican. Didn't you
tell us that was how it was leaning down in Mississippi?

I'm sorry you perceive this as so condescending, but try to not let your
percetions provide all the color in your final interpretations. I think
Republicans are legitimate humans, too. A little blinded by some very
intelligent manipulators, but still basically good humans. I accept that you
see it from a diametrically-opposed situations.

Does that mean that you HAVE to sink to the despotic name-calling that you
earlier were so opposed to?

If so, I understand.


Michael Bryant, WA4009SWL
Louisville, KY
R75, S800, RX320, SW77, ICF2010K,
DX398, 7600G, 6800W, RF2200, 7600A
GE SRll, Pro-2006, Pro-2010, Pro-76
(remove "nojunk" to reply)

Telamon schrieb:

What's this bath and whale thing you got going?


N8KDV can not proof having a bath the last few years. And since he
'beached the whale' he should beware of them -they might be very angry
on him- and not to swim too far out when taking a bath in his toilet...

"Michael Bryant" wrote in message
...
From: "Stinger"

Lately, I've been reading this twit's postings and watching him claim
that
all conservatives are poorly-educated, gullible rednecks. That
condescending, elitist snobbery in ill-thought post after post disgusts
me.
He's not worthy of my respect.

I do not believe that all Republicans are poorly-educated gullible
rednecks. To
suggest that I have said that is clearly hyperbole. If that's what you're
reading, Stinger, your own perception is skewing your interpretation. I do
believe that you'll find far more poorly-educated gullible rednecks voting
Republican than Democrat. That's not suggesting that I think the
Republican
party is solely reliant on that voting bloc.


I should have been more clear... I was speaking to Leonard's remarks (not
yours, Michael), which are included in my reply. Sorry for any
misunderstanding!

His moronic belief that all conservatives listen (and believe) every
right-wing guy in front of a microphone is just plain stupid. His
complete
ignorance of demographics is astonishing, and his "we know what is best
for
you people" tone is contemptible.

Wow. And Republicans don't preach "we know what is best for you people"?
Abortion? Sex on TV? The imposition of democracy? Look in the mirror.
What you
hate about the "other" is what you ignore about yourself.


You'll find many pro-choice conservatives, Michael. As for sex on TV (or
"gasp" radio), you'll find that probably more of us think it's a problem,
but an awful lot of us don't think it's worth trekking down the road to
censorship.

As for "the imposition of democracy," I'm unapologetically proud to be part
of a group that would have that as an agenda. When will you socialists
finally figure out that people instinctively yearn to be free?

Actually, I very much support the idea of tenured professors in the
(semi)-protected environment of academia. I do wish that they would keep
some grip on the reality of the outside world by doing some activities
outside academia, such
as consulting. There is no teacher better than experience.

Your point? Running a factory puts you more in touch with reality? Yeah.
It
also provides an interesting bias.


So, I'm in the world of business, helping myself and others make a good
living, and giving my employees a chance to better themselves, and that's a
bias? The fact that you didn't even acknowledge your bias in academia
speaks volumes here. We have to actually be productive and profitable to
make money.

However, my accusation against the teacher's unions in on-target and
true.
These organizations fight against testing teachers for ability, testing
students for learned skills or achievement, and against rooting out which
teachers are short-changing our children's education. Just as with any
other union, their agenda is all about protecting jobs (for even the
worst,
as long as they have seniority) and getting more for themselves. The
students' interests are not even in their equation. Look at the
absolute
horror that is being uncovered each and every day in the New Orleans
municipal school system (in which the teachers unions have vigorously
opposed any reforms).


There are problems in inner-city schools. There are many ill-prepared
teachers.
But eliminating the few teachers that will volunteer to work in inner-city
conditions is hardly going to resolve the situation. Disparities in
district-to-district funding are resulting in teaching salaries in public
schools that have simply driven most qualified teachers out of public
education. I couldn't live on those salaries. Nor would I risk my life
daily to
teach in a situation where my life was literally threatened every single
day.
Driving the few remaining (and mainly minority) educators out of teaching
with
culturally-loaded certification tests is akin to only letting people into
school if they happen to have a 120 IQ.


So basically, you've found a politically-correct way of saying that we need
to throw accountability away because these terrible teachers happen to be
minorities, and their heart's in the right place. Bunk! A bad education is
a LIFE SENTENCE to poverty. And "culturally-loaded" -- what a crock! We
all have the same textbooks -- that's a lame excuse for failure.

I'm willing to bet that you feel any unions are a threat to America. No
unions
in your plant, right?


Unions had their place, and were a good thing years ago. However, they have
long-since outlived their usefulness. I've worked at a union plant and a
non-union plant in the same business. The workers at the non-union plant
ran rings around the union plant in productivity -- and that produced more
profit, which in turn, meant job security, raises, and bonuses for the
workers. (And they didn't have to worry about some union thugs stealing
from their retirement account, either!) They are in much better shape than
their (in this case Teamster) union counterparts.

As far as making any "asinine" claim that Democrats have a lock on the
uneducated, that was not what my post said. If you re-read both
Leonard's
and my post, you'll see that I was refuting his conjecture that the
Democrats had all of the educated voters. My assertion is that they have
at
least as many of the uneducated, and also that Democratic politicians
have
learned to pander to them.


Yes, there are uneducated on many sides. I feel that you'll find more
inner-city uneducated of all races on the side of the Democrats. I think
you'll
find far more rural uneducated southern whites voting Republican. Didn't
you
tell us that was how it was leaning down in Mississippi?

I'm sorry you perceive this as so condescending, but try to not let your
percetions provide all the color in your final interpretations. I think
Republicans are legitimate humans, too. A little blinded by some very
intelligent manipulators, but still basically good humans. I accept that
you
see it from a diametrically-opposed situations.

The exact same paragraph can also be said for Democrats.


Does that mean that you HAVE to sink to the despotic name-calling that you
earlier were so opposed to?


I didn't do anything but respond in kind to the tone of that post. As you
well know, I would much rather take the high road.

If so, I understand.



Good! Now, we're getting somewhere, Michael!

-- Stinger

Michael Bryant, WA4009SWL
Louisville, KY
R75, S800, RX320, SW77, ICF2010K,
DX398, 7600G, 6800W, RF2200, 7600A
GE SRll, Pro-2006, Pro-2010, Pro-76
(remove "nojunk" to reply)