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May 8th 04, 05:28 PM
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Michael 'I'm so fat I've gone blind' Bryant wrote: From: Tracy Fort A forum full of useless liberals. I rest my case. If you checked the site out, you'd see that here are liberal and conservatives in debate. I actually respect many intelligent conservatives, but you probably feel that anyone smarter than yourself is something evil. Yeah, you're real 'smart' Fat Boy... you prove it everyday! Tracy is an idiot. I rest my case. Better rest your fat ass. |
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#23
May 8th 04, 05:38 PM
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#24
May 8th 04, 05:40 PM
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Michael 'I never listen to the radio' Bryant wrote: From: N8KDV Better yet, would you like to take me up on the offer to have him provide an email verifiyng our friendship and that he sent me a copy? Are you collecting 'friendship verifications' now Fat Boy? This is a radio group, and generally we collect QSL's.... No, I collect daily verifications of your lies and fabrications. Daily. I've never lied here about a thing! You clearly have... proven fact! |
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#25
May 8th 04, 05:47 PM
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Michael 'I'm so strung out I cain't think' Bryant wrote: A friend, who is teaching at Kyung Hee University in Seoul, Korea sent me this letter. Maybe BrenaAnn can confirm whether she finds the same to be true: -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------- a view from abroad Two things are absolutely chilling about this: 1. We have no idea what is going on that hasnt been reported. Clearly given the extent of the violations that has ALREADY been documented (by the International Red Cross and the military itself), what kind of horrific **** is going on that we dont know about? (What have they been doing to people at Guantanamo, in Afghanistan?) 2. Absent the photos there would not have been international outrage. The reports by Red Cross were all documents and didnt have the same shock value as the photos. Domestically, its probably true that this would have never entered the mainstream of american consciousness. While internationally, it had already caused damage which most Americans had largely ignored. The photos actually contextualized this issue and brought it home, PROVING the allegations of abuse that had already been documented. In this case the pictures are clearly worth more than the thousands of words that already existed. Finally, I wonder can it really get any worse? I wonder (and seriously doubt) if folks inside the country can even begin to fathom what sort of hatred this has generated against us. Thursday night a woman spit at me on the street.........5 minutes later, while eating dinner in a restaurant, the news came on the TV and the pictures were broadcast here. I cannot describe the look that the woman sitting at the nearby table gave me as soon as the photos came on....i truly wished i could sink into a corner and disappear. I recently had a lunch conversation with someone who suggested that George Bush was the international terrorist and it was hypocritical for him to criticize North Korea so much when we obviously dont have our house in order.....and while his suggestion that Bush and Kim Jong il are about equally bad was entirely mistaken, it is still damn difficult to defend very much of our current policy in the Middle East (could he have jacked the peace process any more than he did recently?)........and for god sakes this is what I am experiencing in a country which is a staunch ally. It is safe to say that bashing the States is fashionable and trendy these days. Its gotten so bad that I have almost become a nationalist, although, honestly I cant come up with many good defenses of Bush. I have honestly gotten tired of apologizing for being an American. There is a whole lot of good in our country, but Rumsfeld, Cheney and these neoconservative assholes have unified the globe in their hatred of us. Bush has ****ed away so much sympathy since 9/11 that now even our allies hate us. Living inside fortress America it may be easy to tell yourself that we are not the bad guys and that these are isolated incidents. But when Klemz says we have crushed our international credibility he is right. These pictures are just the icing on the cake, but they confirm all of the bull**** and hatred and negative beliefs that people have about us, justified or not. EVERYONE, democrat, republican, libertarian, green, and just anyone with a heart should be outraged. 4 more years of this behavior is truly scary. I cannot imagine how long it will take to repair the damage, but if we dont change directions soon all of this will come crashing down on us. There is simply too much global outrage, and too little humility on the part of our leaders. They already hated us Fat Boy... reach for that switch and turn your radio on. Had you done that before you'd already know. Where ya been? Holed up in a room smoking pot somewhere? |
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#26
May 8th 04, 05:50 PM
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"Michael Bryant" wrote in message ... A friend, who is teaching at Kyung Hee University in Seoul, Korea sent me this letter. Maybe BrenaAnn can confirm whether she finds the same to be true: -------------------------------------------------------------------- ------ ---------------------------- a view from abroad ["letter" snipped] Why should we care if the opinions are irrational? Quite frankly, anyone who extrapolates these incidents into an indictment of this country or of leaders who had no knowledge of the activity is already betraying a bias that would have been manifest elsewhere in one way or the other. The big lie in all this doting on "public opinion" from abroad is that we should simply accept the opinion and feel guilty because it exists, but not assess the legitimacy of that opinion. |
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#27
May 8th 04, 05:50 PM
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On Sat, 08 May 2004 12:44:43 -0400, Dan wrote:
On 08 May 2004 12:40:34 GMT, ocom (Michael Bryant) wrote: Finally, I wonder can it really get any worse? I wonder (and seriously doubt) if folks inside the country can even begin to fathom what sort of hatred this has generated against us. Who gives a ****? These people *already* hate us because we won't convert to their ****ed up "religion". We're "infidels" in their eyes, and not fit to live because we're not Islamic. **** 'em. Dan Drake R8, Radio Shack DX-440, Grundig S650, S700, S800, YB400, YB550PE Degen DE1102, Kaito KA1102 Hallicrafters S-120 (1962) Zenith black dial 5 tube Tombstone (1937) E. H. Scott 23 tube Imperial Allwave in Tasman cabinet (1936) You da man Dan! Tracy |
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#28
May 8th 04, 05:53 PM
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#29
May 8th 04, 05:57 PM
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Michael 'I'm so fat, and I gave my career up for drugs' Bryant wrote: From: N8KDV I've never lied here about a thing! You clearly have... proven fact! Here's a proven fact: Your first response to the letter from S Korea was to say I had fabricated it. When it was proven not to be a fabriacation you shifted to attribution. That's proof of a lie from you TODAY! Wrong.. I was pointing out the fact that you'd not received it 'direct'. And, you did not give proper attribution. Nice try Fat Boy. |
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#30
May 8th 04, 06:00 PM
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