"T. Early" wrote in message
...
In short, you're not going to answer my question but are going to
defer the answer by striking back with your own less precisely-defined
notion of a neo-conservative.

SOP for Bryant. When confronted with a question he can't or dosen't want to
answer, he iqnores you.

In article , =20
says...
=20
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BDK wrote:
=20
In article , rhf-say-
says...
TE,

NeoCon 101 - Some Basic Questions Answered.

? What Do Neo-Conservatives Believe ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
http://www.csmonitor.com/specials/neocon/neocon101.html

? The NeuCons "Key Figures" {The Founders - Who Are They ?}
http://www.csmonitor.com/specials/neocon/index.html

? How Much Power do the Neo-Conservatives have within
the Bush Administration and within Washington DC ?
http://www.csmonitor.com/specials/neocon/boot.html
- by Max Boot

? Which Leaders in US History would be NeoCons Today ?
http://www.csmonitor.com/specials/neocon/mead.html
- by Walter Russell Mead

TE - But the way that "MWB" uses the tern 'neucon' is part of
the new "Ultra-Liberal-Democrat Speak" and the Liberal Media Elite
when the majority of Jewish-Americans and Jewish Intellectuals
were Democrat Party Members and Democrat Voters.
There was a time when Jews-Americans were 'good little democrats'
and could be "Counted On" to Vote Democrat. But now come along
the NeuCons the founding majority of whom were Jewish-American
Intellectuals who identified with the Republican Party.
To the Democrats (The Democrat Party Leaders) and the Media Elite
these NeuCons are simply NOT the 'right type' of Jewish-Americans.

MWB - Basically functions as a Political Cadre of the Democrat
Party here on this NewsGroup. Thus 'he' uses the term "NeuCon"
and "NeuCons" as a Democrat Code Words for 'Those People'.
{Yes - There is a "Hateful" 'hidden' Meaning Implied using the Words.=
}
[ One more form of Democrat Class Warfare - The Politics of Hate. ]

The Liberal Media Elite also use these same "Code Words" to
Indoctrinate the American Public as to the Threat that the NeuCons
are to 'all' that is Truly "Democratic" in American.

This is the basic logic of the Democrats the Liberal Media when
it comes to Collin Powell as an African-American Leader of
National Stature. Liberal Democrats and Media Elite can not
stand have a Strong Powerful Respected Black Man in President
Bush's Cabinet.

More of the 'quite' Racism of the Democrats and the Media Elite
because Colin Powell is not the right kind of African-American.
[ One more form of Democrat Class Warfare - The Politics of Hate. ]


So Say I - My Opinions Stated as Facts ~ RHF
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=3D =3D =3D "T. Early" wrote in message
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"Michael Bryant" wrote in message
...

How come all you neocons that are so busy rationalizing a
moral base for torture are ignoring the words of your own
leader? Aren't you listening to your own leader?

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20040511/D82G3FK00.html


You toss the word "neocon" about like a frisbee.
Would you mind saying what/who you think it refers to?
I'm always wondering who's in that box and who isn't
as far as you're concerned.
For most conservatives, it has a very definite meaning.

.


I think you've been sniffing too much tuner cleaner, kind of like Steve
sometimes...
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I highly recommend Caig products...
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Holland, MI
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Deoxit (SP?) works great on my NRD-515...

BDK

From: "MnMikew"

In short, you're not going to answer my question but are going to
defer the answer by striking back with your own less precisely-defined
notion of a neo-conservative.

SOP for Bryant. When confronted with a question he can't or dosen't want to
answer, he iqnores you.

You need to read. I think I've done a fairly good job of defining neo-cons over
the past 12 hours. Far more effort than you've put into defining what's meant
by the phrase "liberal."

Michael Bryant, WA4009SWL
Louisville, KY
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"Michael Bryant" wrote in message
...
From: "MnMikew"

In short, you're not going to answer my question but are going to
defer the answer by striking back with your own less
precisely-defined
notion of a neo-conservative.

SOP for Bryant. When confronted with a question he can't or dosen't
want to
answer, he iqnores you.

You need to read. I think I've done a fairly good job of defining
neo-cons over
the past 12 hours. Far more effort than you've put into defining
what's meant
by the phrase "liberal."


In the interest of good will, peace and world harmony, I was going to
move on from this discussion. But I just can't now. Here's you on
neo-con: "Neo is a prefix meaning 'near.'" So you think you're doing
"fairly good job of defining neo-cons" when you don't even know what
the blankety blank word literally means? It does -not- refer to "near
conservatives." It primarily refers, once again, to a group of former
liberals (the political writer Norman Podhoretz, for one) who began to
reassess their positions in the '70s and '80s and became "new
conservatives." The word has since been expanded to include certain
others who have been strongly influenced by those individuals. I
really wouldn't have belabored this if you didn't seem so firmly
convinced that you have a grip on this when you don't.

"Michael Bryant" wrote in message
...
From: (LW)

Neo indicates "new". I'm not new to conservatism. Been here
forever.
Till the "other side" can produce something better than Clintons
and
Gores and Kerrys and Kennedys, I'll be right here.

Real, oldtime, conservatives were opposed to unrestrained spending,
US foreign
adventurism and violations of the Constitution. Neo-cons don't mind
those
things, at all, as long as they work to increase their political
hold on the
country.


How can I put this diplomatically and in a non-judgmental manner?
OK....you have no idea what you are talking about here.

From: "T. Early"

Real, oldtime, conservatives were opposed to unrestrained spending,
US foreign
adventurism and violations of the Constitution. Neo-cons don't mind
those
things, at all, as long as they work to increase their political
hold on the
country.


How can I put this diplomatically and in a non-judgmental manner?
OK....you have no idea what you are talking about here.

A response with neither analysis or evidence. And an obvious lie about
judgementalism. I think you can do better.




Michael Bryant, WA4009SWL
Louisville, KY
R75, S800, RX320, SW77, ICF2010K,
DX398, 7600G, 6800W, RF2200, 7600A
GE SRll, Pro-2006, Pro-2010, Pro-76
(remove "nojunk" to reply)

"Michael Bryant" wrote in message
...
From: "T. Early"

Real, oldtime, conservatives were opposed to unrestrained
spending,
US foreign
adventurism and violations of the Constitution. Neo-cons don't
mind
those
things, at all, as long as they work to increase their political
hold on the
country.


How can I put this diplomatically and in a non-judgmental manner?
OK....you have no idea what you are talking about here.

A response with neither analysis or evidence. And an obvious lie
about
judgementalism. I think you can do better.


I did. I just didn't feel like repeating it. See my post somewhat
earlier about your misconceptions regarding the term neo-con. You
know, basic stuff like what the word means

From: "T. Early"

Neo is a prefix meaning 'near.'" So you think you're doing
"fairly good job of defining neo-cons" when you don't even know what
the blankety blank word literally means? It does -not- refer to "near
conservatives."

So, what's your spin on the word neo-natal? Look up the prefix "neo", genius.

It primarily refers, once again, to a group of former
liberals (the political writer Norman Podhoretz, for one) who began to
reassess their positions in the '70s and '80s and became "new
conservatives." The word has since been expanded to include certain
others who have been strongly influenced by those individuals. I
really wouldn't have belabored this if you didn't seem so firmly
convinced that you have a grip on this when you don't.

So what have you proven? The neo-cons really are something different from
traditional conservatives. Thank you. You just admitted my original point. You
are just sooo smart!


Michael Bryant, WA4009SWL
Louisville, KY
R75, S800, RX320, SW77, ICF2010K,
DX398, 7600G, 6800W, RF2200, 7600A
GE SRll, Pro-2006, Pro-2010, Pro-76
(remove "nojunk" to reply)

Michael 'I'm baaaaad, I'm mega-wide' Bryant wrote:

From: "T. Early"

Neo is a prefix meaning 'near.'" So you think you're doing
"fairly good job of defining neo-cons" when you don't even know what
the blankety blank word literally means? It does -not- refer to "near
conservatives."

So, what's your spin on the word neo-natal? Look up the prefix "neo", genius.

It primarily refers, once again, to a group of former
liberals (the political writer Norman Podhoretz, for one) who began to
reassess their positions in the '70s and '80s and became "new
conservatives." The word has since been expanded to include certain
others who have been strongly influenced by those individuals. I
really wouldn't have belabored this if you didn't seem so firmly
convinced that you have a grip on this when you don't.

So what have you proven? The neo-cons really are something different from
traditional conservatives. Thank you. You just admitted my original point. You
are just sooo smart!

And you are just sooo stupid!

"LW" wrote in message
m...
ocom (Michael Bryant) wrote ...

How come all you neocons that are so busy rationalizing a moral base for
torture are ignoring the words of your own leader?

All neocons? Painting with a rather wide brush here, yes?

What *exactly* is a "neocon"?

From Ask Jeeves:

Neoconservative - A "neocon" is more inclined than other conservatives
toward vigorous government in the service of the goals of traditional
morality and pro-business policies. Tends to favor a very strong foreign
policy of America as well.