We all have a role in Hometown (Homeland) Security and a Better America:

USA "Citizen Corps"
http://www.citizencorps.gov/
USA "Citizen Corps" asks you to embrace the personal responsibility
to be prepared; to get Training in First Aid and Emergency Skills;
and to Volunteer to support: local Emergency Responders, Disaster
Relief, and Community Safety.

USA "Freedom Corps"
http://www.usafreedomcorps.gov/
The USA "Freedom Corps" is an initiative to encourage Americans
to spend a part of their summer in Volunteer Service.

"Learn & Serve" America
http://www.usafreedomcorps.gov/conte...erve/index.asp
Learn and Serve America makes grants to schools, colleges, and
nonprofit groups to support efforts to Engage Students in Community
Service linked to Academic Achievement and the Development of
Civic Skills. This approach to Education, called Service-Learning,
improves communities while Preparing Young People for a Lifetime of
Responsible Citizenship.
Learn-&-Serve= http://www.learnandserve.org.

"Senior Corps" for America
http://www.usafreedomcorps.gov/conte...orps/index.asp
Senior Corps taps the skills, talents, and experience of more than
500,000 Americans age 55 and older to meet a wide range of
community needs through three programs: RSVP, Foster Grandparents,
and Senior Companions.
Senior-Corps= http://www.seniorcorps.org.

FBI Tips and Public Leads {OnLine Reporting}
TIPS-FORM= https://tips.fbi.gov/
US Citizens are encourage to submit information regarding possible
Terrorist and potential Terrorist Attacks. Use this form to Report
any suspected Criminal Activity to the FBI.


God {Allah} Bless America and all those who are striving
to make the USofA Safer a Place to Live in Freedom ~ RHF

..

RHF wrote:

FBI Tips and Public Leads {OnLine Reporting}
TIPS-FORM= https://tips.fbi.gov/
US Citizens are encourage to submit information regarding possible
Terrorist and potential Terrorist Attacks. Use this form to Report
any suspected Criminal Activity to the FBI.

The largest group of 'informants' in Stalinist Russia were normal
citizens. The fear of the secret police was so pervasive that some
thought they would be suspect if they DIDN'T report on someone.

With no courts, lawyers and a free press to defend the innocent, the
jails were holding countless innocents.

Why do you want to bring this abomination on your neighbours? The
Patriot act destroys every freedom you USED to hold dear.

How easily you sell your birthright for a bit of mock security.


mike

MII,

YOUR CHOICES AND PRE-DISPOSITIONS:
(OT) - We all have a role in Hometown
(Homeland) Security and a Better America
1) USA "Citizen Corps"
2) USA "Freedom Corps"
3) "Learn & Serve" America
4) "Senior Corps" for America
5) FBI Tips and Public Leads {OnLine Reporting}


? SO WHERE DID YOU COME OUT ?

* Holtzman Ink Blot Test
http://www.ehendrick.org/healthy/000679.htm

The Rorschach Test
http://www.medical-library.org/journals/mddx/Rorshach/
http://www.deltabravo.net/custody/rorschach.htm

FWIW: There were four 'positive' Building a "Better America"
Things-to-Explore; and one that some warped individuals with a
certain Slanted / Political / Perspective/ may view a being "Negative".

? Which One(s) did you Choose ?
- and -
? What is there in You ? - That "Made" You Choose It ?

Concerning an Individuals "Attitude" about:
5) FBI Tips and Public Leads {OnLine Reporting}

As a Good Citizen when you see your Neighbors House Catch Fi
- Do You Call the Fire Department or Dial 911 ?

As a Good Citizen when you see an Automobile Accident with Injured People:
- Do You Call the Police Department or Dial 911 ?

As a Good Citizen when you see a Lost Child or Run-Away Pet:
- Do You Stop and Help Them and then Call for Help or Dial 911 ?

As a Good Citizen when you see an Elderly Person Being Robbed:
- Do You Call the Police Department or Dial 911 ?

Are You 'simply' Motivated by being a Responsible Good Citizen ?
Or - Are You Living in Fear of "What the Government Will Do To You ?"

The 'problem' is NOT the FBI "Tips" Program; for it has Always Existed.
[ The Problem lays between Your Ears and the Way You Think. ]


God {Allah} Bless the Good Citizens of America - Amen ~ RHF
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RHF wrote:

FBI Tips and Public Leads {OnLine Reporting}
TIPS-FORM= https://tips.fbi.gov/
US Citizens are encourage to submit information regarding possible
Terrorist and potential Terrorist Attacks. Use this form to Report
any suspected Criminal Activity to the FBI.

The largest group of 'informants' in Stalinist Russia were normal
citizens. The fear of the secret police was so pervasive that some
thought they would be suspect if they DIDN'T report on someone.

With no courts, lawyers and a free press to defend the innocent,
the jails were holding countless innocents.

Why do you want to bring this abomination on your neighbours?
The Patriot act destroys every freedom you USED to hold dear.

How easily you sell your birthright for a bit of mock security.


mike
..

RHF wrote:
MII,

YOUR CHOICES AND PRE-DISPOSITIONS:
(OT) - We all have a role in Hometown
(Homeland) Security and a Better America
1) USA "Citizen Corps"
2) USA "Freedom Corps"
3) "Learn & Serve" America
4) "Senior Corps" for America
5) FBI Tips and Public Leads {OnLine Reporting}


? SO WHERE DID YOU COME OUT ?

* Holtzman Ink Blot Test
http://www.ehendrick.org/healthy/000679.htm

The Rorschach Test
http://www.medical-library.org/journals/mddx/Rorshach/
http://www.deltabravo.net/custody/rorschach.htm

FWIW: There were four 'positive' Building a "Better America"
Things-to-Explore; and one that some warped individuals with a
certain Slanted / Political / Perspective/ may view a being "Negative".

? Which One(s) did you Choose ?
- and -
? What is there in You ? - That "Made" You Choose It ?

Concerning an Individuals "Attitude" about:
5) FBI Tips and Public Leads {OnLine Reporting}

As a Good Citizen when you see your Neighbors House Catch Fi
- Do You Call the Fire Department or Dial 911 ?

As a Good Citizen when you see an Automobile Accident with Injured People:
- Do You Call the Police Department or Dial 911 ?

As a Good Citizen when you see a Lost Child or Run-Away Pet:
- Do You Stop and Help Them and then Call for Help or Dial 911 ?

As a Good Citizen when you see an Elderly Person Being Robbed:
- Do You Call the Police Department or Dial 911 ?

Are You 'simply' Motivated by being a Responsible Good Citizen ?
Or - Are You Living in Fear of "What the Government Will Do To You ?"

The 'problem' is NOT the FBI "Tips" Program; for it has Always Existed.
[ The Problem lays between Your Ears and the Way You Think. ]

Not one of their examples applies to spying for the secret police.
By equating these more or less common sense actions to 'homeland
security' they try to make the undefendable more palatable
They're all non-applicable as far as using civilians to spy on each
other is concerned.

This is an old attempt at distraction from the main argument.

It's like saying:

"If you don't believe in God, you worship the devil"
or
"Childless couples are unnatural perverts"
or
"Jews sell atomic secrets to the highest bidder"

By your reasoning, wee should be keeping a very close eye on
atheists, childless couples and Jews.


There are non so blind as those who will not see..it looks to me as
though you've been brainwashed into thinking that spying on your
neighbours is a GOOD thing. Sad..

===================================
"The function of propaganda does not lie in the scientific training
of the individual, but in calling the masses' attention to certain
facts, processes, necessities, etc., whose significance is thus for
the first time placed within their field of vision.

All propaganda must be popular and its intellectual level must be
adjusted to the most limited intelligence among those it is
addressed to. Consequently, the greater the mass it is intended to
reach, the lower its purely intellectual level will have to be. But
if, as in propaganda for sticking out a war, the aim is to influence
a whole people, we must avoid excessive intellectual demands on our
public, and too much caution cannot be extended in this direction."

adolph hitler

==================================


mike

MII,

Gee Wow ! - Here We Go Off the Deep End Again - Oh Canada )

I simply present 'my view points' on being a Good Citizen and
Helping People or Taking Action when an Emergency Happens.

MII - You however, seem to have a real problem with the concept
of 'acting responsible' as a Good Citizen.

MII - Lets Examine Your Warpped 'sense' of "Social Values":

* Not one of their examples applies to spying for the secret police.
MII - The FBI is NOT a 'secret police' Agency.
? Did I ever mention 'spying' simply reporting what you might
see as a Good Citizen.

* By equating these more or less common sense actions to 'homeland
security' they try to make the undefendable more palatable.
MII - Homeland Security starts with Hometown Security and extends
to the State and the Nation. Simply be a Good Citizen with in
your Community and having a 'relationship' with your Neighbors.
? "Undefendable" to you acting 'responsible' and being a Good
Citizenship is undefendable.

* They're all non-applicable as far as using civilians to spy
on each other is concerned.
MII - Ther your go again with Spying, vice Good Citizenship
which is reporting a Crime if an when you see it happening.
! You have a real "Fixation" on Spying MII !

* This is an old attempt at distraction from the main argument.
MII - Since I made the original Posting and then Followed-Up
with a Defense of that Posting. I "Define-the-Argument" and
what your have 'presented' is the "Distraction".
Think about it MII, Four Positive items to explore and One item
that could be view as either Positive and Negative. You only
choise the Last Item and ONLY Choise to view it as Negative.
MII - You Failed the Holtzman Ink Blot Test and the Rorschach
Test of: Brotherly Love for All, Honest Concern for your
Neighbors, Working to Improve Your Community, and just being a
Good Citizen.

* It's like saying: "If you don't believe in God, you worship the devil"
MII - These are your words NOT mine.
- To me they are an Ink Blot Test of your Mind's Eye.
- Everything is Black and White.

* It's like saying: "Childless couples are unnatural perverts"
MII - These are your words NOT mine.
- To me they are an Ink Blot Test of your Mind's Eye.
- Wow you condem people so easily.

* It's like saying: "Jews sell atomic secrets to the highest bidder"
MII - These are your words NOT mine.
- To me they are an Ink Blot Test of your Mind's Eye.
- Again a "Fixation" with JEWS.
- Note the Quote from 'adolph hitler' invoking his name.

* By your reasoning, wee should be keeping a very close eye on
atheists, childless couples and Jews.
MII - My Reasoning has been stated in the 'original' Posting
and then Followed-Up with a Defense of that Posting. The above
and what is below are your points and are reflective of your
'skewed' Mentality NOT mine.
- My Reasoning are my stated reasons: Brotherly Love for All,
Honest Concern for your Neighbors, Working to Improve Your
Community, and just being a Good Citizen.
- Your are the One who seems to be "Fixated" on 'keeping a very
close eye' {spying} on: atheists, childless couples and Jews.

* There are non so blind as those who will not see.
MII - Heed your own words and Open Up Your Eyes.
- I was Lost and Now I am Found.
- freedom, Freedom. FREEDOM !

* it looks to me as though you've been brainwashed into
thinking that spying on your neighbours is a GOOD thing.
MII - I have never Advocated or Stated that One should "SPY"
on their Neighbors or anyone else.
- Once again we see that you are "Fixated" on Spying.
- What I do Advocate: Brotherly Love for All, Honest Concern
for your Neighbors; Working to Improve Your Community, and
just being a Good Citizen.

* Sad..
MII - My Canadian Brother - Yes You are Sad.
- But MII, I have Hope for You and will Pray for You.
- After All, What Else should a Good Citizen Do )

* Closing with a Quote from 'adolph hitler' invoking his name.
MII - Are you "Fixated" on 'adolph hitler' and the NAZIs ?
? Again MII where is your Mind ?
- As for me, I Believe in America and I Believe in Me.
- For I Am An American !

MII - I will close with this Quote:
"Let us, therefore, in training our Scouts, keep their higher
aims in the forefront, not let ourselves get too absorbed in
the steps. Don't let the technical outweigh the moral. Field
efficiency, camping, hiking, good turns, are all means, not
the end. The End is "Character with a Purpose", and that Purpose,
that the Next Generation may be Sane in an insane world, and
Develop the Highest Realization of Service. Active Service of
Love, and Duty to God and Neighbor."
- Lord Baden Powell {Founder of the Boy Scouts}


MII - After all is said and done - I am just an 'old' Boy Scout
who On His Honor Believes in: Being Prepared and Doing a
Good Turn Daily for God and Country ~ RHF
..
..
ABOUT THE BOY SCOUTS:
http://www.scouting.org/nav/enter.jsp?s=mc&c=fs
* On my honor I will do my best:
- To Do My Duty to God and My Country and to Obey the Scout Law
- To Help other people at all times
- To Keep Myself Physically Strong, Mentally Awake, and Morally Straight.
* Scout Law - A Scout is Trustworthy, Loyal, Helpful, Friendly,
Courteous, Kind, Obedient, Cheerful, Thrifty, Brave, Clean, and
Reverent.
* Motto - Be Prepared
* Slogan - Do a Good Turn Daily
* By Living According to the Scout Oath and Law, you are adding
your bit to the fires of Good Citizenship and World Brotherhood.
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RHF wrote:
MII,

YOUR CHOICES AND PRE-DISPOSITIONS:
(OT) - We all have a role in Hometown
(Homeland) Security and a Better America
1) USA "Citizen Corps"
2) USA "Freedom Corps"
3) "Learn & Serve" America
4) "Senior Corps" for America
5) FBI Tips and Public Leads {OnLine Reporting}


? SO WHERE DID YOU COME OUT ?

* Holtzman Ink Blot Test
http://www.ehendrick.org/healthy/000679.htm

* The Rorschach Test
http://www.medical-library.org/journals/mddx/Rorshach/
http://www.deltabravo.net/custody/rorschach.htm

FWIW: There were four 'positive' Building a "Better America"
Things-to-Explore; and one that some warped individuals with a
certain Slanted / Political / Perspective/ may view a being "Negative".

? Which One(s) did you Choose ?
- and -
? What is there in You ? - That "Made" You Choose It ?

Concerning an Individuals "Attitude" about:
5) FBI Tips and Public Leads {OnLine Reporting}

As a Good Citizen when you see your Neighbors House Catch Fi
- Do You Call the Fire Department or Dial 911 ?

As a Good Citizen when you see an Automobile Accident with Injured People:
- Do You Call the Police Department or Dial 911 ?

As a Good Citizen when you see a Lost Child or Run-Away Pet:
- Do You Stop and Help Them and then Call for Help or Dial 911 ?

As a Good Citizen when you see an Elderly Person Being Robbed:
- Do You Call the Police Department or Dial 911 ?

Are You 'simply' Motivated by being a Responsible Good Citizen ?
Or - Are You Living in Fear of "What the Government Will Do To You ?"

The 'problem' is NOT the FBI "Tips" Program; for it has Always Existed.
[ The Problem lays between Your Ears and the Way You Think. ]

Not one of their examples applies to spying for the secret police.
By equating these more or less common sense actions to 'homeland
security' they try to make the undefendable more palatable
They're all non-applicable as far as using civilians to spy on each
other is concerned.

This is an old attempt at distraction from the main argument.

It's like saying:

"If you don't believe in God, you worship the devil"
or
"Childless couples are unnatural perverts"
or
"Jews sell atomic secrets to the highest bidder"

By your reasoning, wee should be keeping a very close eye on
atheists, childless couples and Jews.


There are non so blind as those who will not see..it looks to me as
though you've been brainwashed into thinking that spying on your
neighbours is a GOOD thing. Sad..

===================================
"The function of propaganda does not lie in the scientific training
of the individual, but in calling the masses' attention to certain
facts, processes, necessities, etc., whose significance is thus for
the first time placed within their field of vision.

All propaganda must be popular and its intellectual level must be
adjusted to the most limited intelligence among those it is
addressed to. Consequently, the greater the mass it is intended to
reach, the lower its purely intellectual level will have to be. But
if, as in propaganda for sticking out a war, the aim is to influence
a whole people, we must avoid excessive intellectual demands on our
public, and too much caution cannot be extended in this direction."

adolph hitler

==================================


mike

From: Dan


If I had some bearded, towel headed neighbors you can bet your ass I
would be watching their activities and noting the license plates of
visitors, etc. It would be my duty.

You're proof that the terrorists are winning!


Michael Bryant, WA4009SWL
Louisville, KY
R75, S800, RX320, SW77, ICF2010K,
DX398, 7600G, 6800W, RF2200, 7600A
GE SRll, Pro-2006, Pro-2010, Pro-76
(remove "nojunk" to reply)

Michael Bryant wrote:

From: Dan


If I had some bearded, towel headed neighbors you can bet your ass I
would be watching their activities and noting the license plates of
visitors, etc. It would be my duty.

You're proof that the terrorists are winning!

And it may be because those of your ilk, and Liberal education are on
their side!

MWB,

Your are "Living" Proof that some 'americans' view their Fellow
Americans Citizens as the Enemy and are Blinded by the 'simple'
Fact that the 'terrorist' are in-fact "Terrorist" [.]

MWB - YOUR CHOICES AND PRE-DISPOSITIONS:
(OT) - We all have a role in Hometown
(Homeland) Security and a Better America
1) USA "Citizen Corps"
2) USA "Freedom Corps"
3) "Learn & Serve" America
4) "Senior Corps" for America
5) FBI Tips and Public Leads {OnLine Reporting}


MWB - ? SO WHERE DID YOU COME OUT ?

* Holtzman Ink Blot Test
http://www.ehendrick.org/healthy/000679.htm

* The Rorschach Test
http://www.medical-library.org/journals/mddx/Rorshach/
http://www.deltabravo.net/custody/rorschach.htm

MWB - FWIW: There were four 'positive' Building a "Better America"
Things-to-Explore; and one that some warped individuals with a
certain Slanted / Political / Perspective/ may view a being "Negative".

? Which One(s) did you Choose ?
- and -
? What is there in You ? - That "Made" You Choose It ?

MWB - Concerning an Individuals "Attitude" about:
5) FBI Tips and Public Leads {OnLine Reporting}

MWB - As a Good Citizen when you see your Neighbors House Catch Fi
- Do You Call the Fire Department or Dial 911 ?

MWB - As a Good Citizen when you see an Automobile Accident
with Injured People:
- Do You Call the Police Department or Dial 911 ?

MWB - As a Good Citizen when you see a Lost Child or Run-Away Pet:
- Do You Stop and Help Them and then Call for Help or Dial 911 ?

MWB - As a Good Citizen when you see an Elderly Person Being Robbed:
- Do You Call the Police Department or Dial 911 ?

MWB - Are You 'simply' Motivated by being a Responsible Good Citizen ?
Or - Are You Living in Fear of "What the Government Will Do To You ?"

The 'problem' is NOT the FBI "Tips" Program; for it has Always Existed.
[ The Problem lays between Your Ears "MWB" and the Way You Think. ]


God {Allah} Bless the Good Citizens of America - Amen ~ RHF
..
..
= = = ocom (Michael Bryant) wrote in message
= = = ...
From: Dan


If I had some bearded, towel headed neighbors you can bet your ass I
would be watching their activities and noting the license plates of
visitors, etc. It would be my duty.

You're proof that the terrorists are winning!


Michael Bryant, WA4009SWL
Louisville, KY
R75, S800, RX320, SW77, ICF2010K,
DX398, 7600G, 6800W, RF2200, 7600A
GE SRll, Pro-2006, Pro-2010, Pro-76
(remove "nojunk" to reply)
..

(RHF) wrote in message . com...

We all have a role in Hometown (Homeland) Security and a Better America:
[snip]


If I may step **between** the land mines, rather than directly on
them....

Believe it or not, the whole homeland security thing was what finally,
after all these years, caused me to break down and get an amateur
radio license. I live close enough to the Pentagon that I heard Flight
77 when it hit. Anytime I want to know where Ground Zero is, all I
have to do is look around me. This is it; here I am. The ability to
communicate without having to rely on the cellphone network [sic; I
know that's a meaningless concept] may make the difference life and
death. No kidding.

K_J_I
KI4-something-something-something

In article ,
(Beloved Leader) writes:

Subject: (OT) - We all have a role in Hometown (Homeland) Security
and a
Better Amer
From: (Beloved Leader)
Date: 4 Jun 2004 09:53:24 -0700

(RHF) wrote in message
.com...

We all have a role in Hometown (Homeland) Security and a Better America:
[snip]


If I may step **between** the land mines, rather than directly on
them....

Believe it or not, the whole homeland security thing was what finally,
after all these years, caused me to break down and get an amateur
radio license. I live close enough to the Pentagon that I heard Flight
77 when it hit. Anytime I want to know where Ground Zero is, all I
have to do is look around me. This is it; here I am. The ability to
communicate without having to rely on the cellphone network [sic; I
know that's a meaningless concept] may make the difference life and
death. No kidding.

K_J_I
KI4-something-something-something


Oh Beloved Leader ...KI4-something-something-something

Right:
The dust from 9/11 coated our apartment , alwhough wer are miles and miles
away.
we now have cheap 2-way radios and an evacuation plan .

( Actually worked out well during the Blackout last summer)
I think that 9/11 just awoke a sleeping Giant.
We may bitch & moan, but here in NY, people know it's eventually for the
greater good.

You don't Have any Civil Liberties
if your dead..

Dan