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Old June 4th 04, 06:55 PM
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If anything left of center can't make it in NYC, then it's time to rethink
things. However, it's been my observation that it takes some fairly
appalling stuff to fail in NYC. I would guess that one of the main reasons
they established a presence in NYC was also the same reason they did _not_
try to crank up a station in the south. Although, I think they would find
a receptive audience (perhaps of justifiable size) in Atlanta...


-=jd=-


They say they're on in Chapel Hill, SC and Key West, FL, but I don't know
how much of their programming is carried on these stations.

It seems Tampa Bay is a hotbed of talk radio, and they might have some
success there, if they can break in. Many of the bigger names in Liberal
talk radio have been through the South, such as Tom Leykis, Bob Lassiter and
Mike Malloy, although that's mostly Tampa Bay and Maimi for those guys.

Frank Dresser


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Old June 4th 04, 07:01 PM
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Ed Schultz beats Limbaugh in Fargo.

Randi Rhodes beats Limbaugh in Boca Raton.

On 4 Jun 2004 00:48:32 -0700, (RHF) wrote:

FD,

For what ever reason, somethings always do well in NYC.

So the Question becomes: How will it Play in Peoria ?

~ RHF
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= = = "Frank Dresser" wrote in message
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"For example, among listeners from 25 and 54, whom advertisers covet, the
network estimates it drew an average listener share (roughly a percentage of
listeners) of 3.4 on WLIB in April, from 10 a.m. and 3 p.m. on weekdays,
according to the company's extrapolation of figures provided by Arbitron for
the three months ended in April. (Arbitron, which does not provide ratings
in monthly increments, said the network's methodology appeared sound,
although such figures were too raw to translate to numbers of listeners.) "

"By contrast, according to Air America's figures, WABC-AM drew an average
share of 3.2 during the same period in April for the same age group. That
time period includes the three hours in which Mr. Limbaugh was pitted head
to head against Mr. Franken"

http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/0531-08.htm

Looks like I was wrong about Air America's ratings, at least at the start
up. I didn't much like most of the hosts(although I thought Franken was OK)
and I thought they would turn off listeners. Well, Air America says more
people in the New York area listened to Franken, rather than Limbaugh.

The article is mostly about Air America's rotten business start-up.

Frank Dresser


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In article , David
writes:

Ed Schultz beats Limbaugh in Fargo.

Randi Rhodes beats Limbaugh in Boca Raton.


Randi Rhodes could probably Beat Limbaugh in a Fist-Fight..


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Old June 4th 04, 09:33 PM
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Quoth "Frank Dresser" in news:FH1wc.32857
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Subject: Air America -- Good Ratings in NY!
From: "Frank Dresser"
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave


"Diverd4777" wrote in message
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- Quite true; Frank,
Air America is quite good..
Have a freind ( Veteran, Korean war) Listens to it regularly.


Did they get better? I didn't think they were particularly good last
time I heard them, but I did think Franken was OK.


Franken's quickly developing radio chops. His conversational interview
style often gives me flashes of Arthur Godfrey's best qualities, and then
there are the comedy bits, which are improving daily. I'm really enjoying
listening to him. The torture segment opening today's show (Franken bound
and shirtless, with Lanpher interrogating him using electrified nipple
clamps) was just hysterical!

All of AA's programming is tightening up since the management change.

Morning Sedition remains as entertaining as any "Morning Zoo" show I've
ever heard, but more clued-in.

Unfiltered, not so much improvement, though Chuck D continues to impress.

The best thing about Majority Report continues to be the guest list, second
best is how well-informed Janeane Garofolo is, though she's taking longer
to develop radio chops than Franken is. She really needs a more
experienced radio hand as a co-host and OTJ trainer; Sam Seder just doesn't
cut it, mostly he annoys the hell out of me.

And Randi Rhodes blows the rest of them away.

--
"I am afeard there are few die well that die in a battle; for how can they
charitably dispose of anything when blood is their argument? Now, if these
men do not die well, it will be a black matter for the King that led them
to it; who to disobey were against all proportion of subjection." - W.S.


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- Still love 'Recovery Corner'

" Hi, My names Mark, I'm an alcoholic;

reaching out to Brother George Bush "....

Lots of good call ins from notables

Great, Uplifting , entertaining stuff..





In article , Tom Betz
writes:


Morning Sedition remains as entertaining as any "Morning Zoo" show I've
ever heard, but more clued-in.

Unfiltered, not so much improvement, though Chuck D continues to impress.

The best thing about Majority Report continues to be the guest list, second
best is how well-informed Janeane Garofolo is, though she's taking longer
to develop radio chops than Franken is. She really needs a more
experienced radio hand as a co-host and OTJ trainer; Sam Seder just doesn't
cut it, mostly he annoys the hell out of me.

And Randi Rhodes blows the rest of them away.



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(RHF) wrote in message . com...
FD,

For what ever reason, somethings always do well in NYC.

So the Question becomes: How will it Play in Peoria ?

~ RHF
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.

RHF raises precisely the right question: "How will in play in
Peoria?"

No one has *the* answer to that yet but here's what the radio station
in Portland has to say so far. They are delighted. Read for
yourself:

http://www.portlandtribune.com/archview.cgi?id=24645

BTW, on some other boards you'll run across people who claim Clear
Channel is prohibiting Air America from any of their stations. The
proof is in the pudding. KPOJ, the Portland affiliate of Air America
is a Clear Channel station.


FF,

Exactly, some programming that is specifically NYC (East Coast
Urban) just is not received well in the Heartland of America.
(Small Towns and Rural Areas)

If, Air America's Talk Show Hosts prove to be both Entertaining
and Informative; plus Personalities that their Audiences can
Identify with Politically. Then in a 50/50 Country they should
have a High Percentage "Market Share" of the Nation Wide
Radio Listeners.

Seems from the article that Air America is doing well in the
Metro Portland Area.

~ RHF

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Undoubtedly. She got some hand-to-hand training in the military.

On 04 Jun 2004 18:54:57 GMT, (Diverd4777) wrote:

In article , David
writes:

Ed Schultz beats Limbaugh in Fargo.

Randi Rhodes beats Limbaugh in Boca Raton.


Randi Rhodes could probably Beat Limbaugh in a Fist-Fight..


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Old June 5th 04, 11:39 PM
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"Diverd4777" wrote in message
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Randi Rhodes could probably Beat Limbaugh in a Fist-Fight..



I'll disagree. Limbaugh, much like the great Kung-Fu masters, knows how to
make himself immune to pain.

Frank Dresser


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