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Old June 5th 04, 09:03 AM
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Default If you value SW or HAM radio....

If you value radio, this may be the last and only chance to have your
voice heard to stop BPL from destroying your hobby. The FCC has extended
the comment period for BPL.

It is VERY simple to file a FCC comment. Click the link below and enter

03-104

in box #1 (proceeding number) and fill in the blanks. The simplest way to
comment is to type your comment into the box on the bottom of the form.

http://gullfoss2.fcc.gov/prod/ecfs/upload_v2.cgi


If you can't think of any thing to type or wish to make this as painless
as possible, you can cut-n-paste the comment I typed below.

/******************************/

In Writing, I wish to persuade the FCC from allowing BPL to be
implemented. The destruction or at the least, deterioration of the
shortwave bands is not only a violation of ITU laws that protect
international broadcasters from interference and jamming, it will be
destroying many people's life hobby. Amateur radio will be reduced to
users with high-power amplifiers and large antennas. Emergency
communications will be hindered to levels directly responsible for the
loss of life.

There are many technologies that make BPL unnecessary. BPL will never be
able to carry the high bandwidth demands for mass distribution of video
much less the up-and-coming HDTV.

Please do not destroy the foundation of radio communication for a unneeded
technology that is only a band-aid and hindrance to the advancement of
broadband technology.


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Old June 5th 04, 09:54 AM
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Excellent - can I copy this to other groups etc?

Mike


"yea right" wrote in message
news
If you value radio, this may be the last and only chance to have your
voice heard to stop BPL from destroying your hobby. The FCC has extended
the comment period for BPL.

It is VERY simple to file a FCC comment. Click the link below and enter

03-104

in box #1 (proceeding number) and fill in the blanks. The simplest way to
comment is to type your comment into the box on the bottom of the form.

http://gullfoss2.fcc.gov/prod/ecfs/upload_v2.cgi


If you can't think of any thing to type or wish to make this as painless
as possible, you can cut-n-paste the comment I typed below.

/******************************/

In Writing, I wish to persuade the FCC from allowing BPL to be
implemented. The destruction or at the least, deterioration of the
shortwave bands is not only a violation of ITU laws that protect
international broadcasters from interference and jamming, it will be
destroying many people's life hobby. Amateur radio will be reduced to
users with high-power amplifiers and large antennas. Emergency
communications will be hindered to levels directly responsible for the
loss of life.

There are many technologies that make BPL unnecessary. BPL will never be
able to carry the high bandwidth demands for mass distribution of video
much less the up-and-coming HDTV.

Please do not destroy the foundation of radio communication for a unneeded
technology that is only a band-aid and hindrance to the advancement of
broadband technology.




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Old June 5th 04, 02:04 PM
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Please Do so, Mike


In article , "Mike Terry"
writes:


Excellent - can I copy this to other groups etc?

Mike


"yea right" wrote in message
news
If you value radio, this may be the last and only chance to have your
voice heard to stop BPL from destroying your hobby. The FCC has extended
the comment period for BPL.

It is VERY simple to file a FCC comment. Click the link below and enter

03-104

in box #1 (proceeding number) and fill in the blanks. The simplest way to
comment is to type your comment into the box on the bottom of the form.

http://gullfoss2.fcc.gov/prod/ecfs/upload_v2.cgi


If you can't think of any thing to type or wish to make this as painless
as possible, you can cut-n-paste the comment I typed below.

/******************************/

In Writing, I wish to persuade the FCC from allowing BPL to be
implemented. The destruction or at the least, deterioration of the
shortwave bands is not only a violation of ITU laws that protect
international broadcasters from interference and jamming, it will be
destroying many people's life hobby. Amateur radio will be reduced to
users with high-power amplifiers and large antennas. Emergency
communications will be hindered to levels directly responsible for the
loss of life.

There are many technologies that make BPL unnecessary. BPL will never be
able to carry the high bandwidth demands for mass distribution of video
much less the up-and-coming HDTV.

Please do not destroy the foundation of radio communication for a unneeded
technology that is only a band-aid and hindrance to the advancement of
broadband technology.





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Old June 5th 04, 02:42 PM
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Here's the text I entered - feel free to cut / paste / modify, etc.

Dear Commissioners, I wish to express my opposition to Broadband Over Power
Line (BPL).

My opposition is based on the interference to the Amateur Radio service and
to those listening to shortwave radio.

The Amateur Radio service was a valuable service on 9/11, providing
communications backup and helping survivors contact loved ones. Given the
current terrorist threat we now face, I believe that it is unreasonable to
hamper this valuable - and free - resource with a known source of
interference.

Further, it is simply unnecessary. While I'm sure that the power companies
are looking for a new profit center, that is insufficient reason to allow
them to run roughshod over others who don't have the enormous budgets for
political lobbyists. There are other alternatives available for broadband
that don't interfere with other services, including cable, DSL and
satellites services such as DirectWay.

Thanks you for considering my petition.

Charlie, KS1C


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Old June 5th 04, 09:30 PM
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As a SW listener, how will this affect what I can hear and locate? Can
someone send me the basics as to what this FCC action is? Does it only
affect certain mhz? My email address is above. I get a lot of terrible
spam, so please make sure you include the subject title or one I will
recognize as I frequently just have to select all and delete.
Thanks.

maria

Charlie wrote:

Here's the text I entered - feel free to cut / paste / modify, etc.

Dear Commissioners, I wish to express my opposition to Broadband Over Power
Line (BPL).

My opposition is based on the interference to the Amateur Radio service and
to those listening to shortwave radio.

The Amateur Radio service was a valuable service on 9/11, providing
communications backup and helping survivors contact loved ones. Given the
current terrorist threat we now face, I believe that it is unreasonable to
hamper this valuable - and free - resource with a known source of
interference.

Further, it is simply unnecessary. While I'm sure that the power companies
are looking for a new profit center, that is insufficient reason to allow
them to run roughshod over others who don't have the enormous budgets for
political lobbyists. There are other alternatives available for broadband
that don't interfere with other services, including cable, DSL and
satellites services such as DirectWay.

Thanks you for considering my petition.

Charlie, KS1C



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Old June 5th 04, 10:01 PM
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Yes! In great hast please!

On Sat, 05 Jun 2004 07:54:24 +0000, Mike Terry wrote:

Excellent - can I copy this to other groups etc?

Mike


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Old June 5th 04, 10:10 PM
yea right
 
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You will loose the ability to listen to nothing but the strongest of
stations. The FCC acceptable limit is to allow interference up to 30M
(100ft) from power lines. You house is wired with power lines.

All you need to know about BPL is on the www.arrl.org website

http://www.arrl.org/news/stories/2004/02/12/5/?nc=1

Thank You for asking!

On Sat, 05 Jun 2004 12:30:28 -0700, maria wrote:

As a SW listener, how will this affect what I can hear and locate? Can
someone send me the basics as to what this FCC action is? Does it only
affect certain mhz? My email address is above. I get a lot of terrible
spam, so please make sure you include the subject title or one I will
recognize as I frequently just have to select all and delete. Thanks.

maria

Charlie wrote:

Here's the text I entered - feel free to cut / paste / modify, etc.

Dear Commissioners, I wish to express my opposition to Broadband Over
Power Line (BPL).

My opposition is based on the interference to the Amateur Radio service
and to those listening to shortwave radio.

The Amateur Radio service was a valuable service on 9/11, providing
communications backup and helping survivors contact loved ones. Given
the current terrorist threat we now face, I believe that it is
unreasonable to hamper this valuable - and free - resource with a known
source of interference.

Further, it is simply unnecessary. While I'm sure that the power
companies are looking for a new profit center, that is insufficient
reason to allow them to run roughshod over others who don't have the
enormous budgets for political lobbyists. There are other alternatives
available for broadband that don't interfere with other services,
including cable, DSL and satellites services such as DirectWay.

Thanks you for considering my petition.

Charlie, KS1C


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Old June 5th 04, 11:49 PM
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Here's my letter, for what its worth:

I am writing to ask you not to allow the implementation of BPL
(Broadband over Power Lines) in our nation's communities.

I rely on shortwave radio as a source of entertainment, world news and
cultural information. I listen to low & high-power broadcasts from the
world over. Reliable reception is already a challenge due to the
interference caused by the deplorable state of our nation's power
lines. I have had to send several complaints to my local power company
due to electrical power pole arcing that interferes with my shortwave
radio. Adding broadband data to these already unreliable power lines
would render a bad situation worse. In my experience, power companies
have little regard for complaints regarding radio interference, and
are slow to respond, if at all. I consider it irresponsible to entrust
BPL technology to power companies that already have an indifferent,
monopolistic attitude towards customer service.
Power companies are also overwhelmed with maintaining the poor repair
state of their equipment. With the addition of BPL,
how will power companies manage to stay within the radio interference
regulations set forth by the FCC?

I beleive BPL would be an unreliable system of delivery, and an
unneeded duplication of existing data services. It would interfere
with all shortwave radio services, including commercial, utility,
aircraft, rescue, and amateur radio services. Its effect on higher
frequency services due to harmonic interference remains to be seen.

In all, I think BPL is a unrequired, unpredictable technology and I
urge you to prevent BPL from polluting our nation's radio spectrum.
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Old June 6th 04, 03:11 AM
Brian Kelly
 
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maria wrote in message ...
As a SW listener, how will this affect what I can hear and locate? Can
someone send me the basics as to what this FCC action is? Does it only
affect certain mhz? My email address is above. I get a lot of terrible
spam, so please make sure you include the subject title or one I will
recognize as I frequently just have to select all and delete.
Thanks.


Potentially BPL can destroy both SWLing and HF ham radio. For detailed
info dial into http://www.arrl.org/tis/info/HTML/plc/

maria


Brian w3rv


Charlie wrote:

Here's the text I entered - feel free to cut / paste / modify, etc.

Dear Commissioners, I wish to express my opposition to Broadband Over Power
Line (BPL).

My opposition is based on the interference to the Amateur Radio service and
to those listening to shortwave radio.

The Amateur Radio service was a valuable service on 9/11, providing
communications backup and helping survivors contact loved ones. Given the
current terrorist threat we now face, I believe that it is unreasonable to
hamper this valuable - and free - resource with a known source of
interference.

Further, it is simply unnecessary. While I'm sure that the power companies
are looking for a new profit center, that is insufficient reason to allow
them to run roughshod over others who don't have the enormous budgets for
political lobbyists. There are other alternatives available for broadband
that don't interfere with other services, including cable, DSL and
satellites services such as DirectWay.

Thanks you for considering my petition.

Charlie, KS1C

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Old June 8th 04, 07:45 AM
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yea right wrote:
If you value radio, this may be the last and only chance to have your
voice heard to stop BPL from destroying your hobby. The FCC has extended
the comment period for BPL.

It is VERY simple to file a FCC comment. Click the link below and enter

03-104

in box #1 (proceeding number) and fill in the blanks. The simplest way to
comment is to type your comment into the box on the bottom of the form.

http://gullfoss2.fcc.gov/prod/ecfs/upload_v2.cgi



I don't know if this has been mentioned before or not. There is
another problem other than interference. It's an IMPORTANT and
perhaps fatal drawback.

If a line or two goes down, not only do you lose power, but also the
means to communicate. Emergency messages will NOT get through to
anyone connected via this setup. They will STILL need regular
broadcast signals via radio or television.

In the worst case scenario, you'd lose email, phone, radio AND tv
all at once. With converging technologies, this is altogether too
likely.

Will the government carry the burden of responsibilty should someone
be killed or hurt because of this 'broadband initiative'?



I do not have a United States address, so I can not send this
suggestion myself. Please distribute this concern also. I hope it
will be noticed by the communications commitee.



mike II
rec.radio.shortwave
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