Dan wrote:

On Mon, 12 Jul 2004 05:07:59 -0400, longwave
wrote:

Whatever it takes. This war is about our very survival, after all.
We can't afford to sit around and do nothing, hoping that these
barbarian scumbags don't attack us again.

Dan

When will you be enlisting?

Unless the army starts taking 50 year old recruits, not very soon.

Dan

That figures. It's really easy to talk tough when there's no chance of
having to serve.


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From: Dan

That figures. It's really easy to talk tough when there's no chance of
having to serve.

Yes, unfortunately experience and perspective come only with age.
When you're young it's easy to shout "war is not the answer!"

Yes, it is easy to reassess the necessity of war when you have some chance of
ending up dead from it. On the other hand, age, and it's insulation from war,
seems to make arm chair generals out of some.

Screw you.


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Michael Bryant wrote:

From: Dan

That figures. It's really easy to talk tough when there's no chance of
having to serve.

Yes, unfortunately experience and perspective come only with age.
When you're young it's easy to shout "war is not the answer!"

Yes, it is easy to reassess the necessity of war when you have some chance of
ending up dead from it. On the other hand, age, and it's insulation from war,
seems to make arm chair generals out of some.

Screw you.

Off those meds, Mikey?

Someone needs to call Louisvillle Technical Institute and inquire about their
health care plan.

dxAce

On Tue, 13 Jul 2004 18:06:00 -0500, "Stinger"
wrote:

The times for debate are before and after a war -- not during it.


This statement makes me puke my guts out. It's so anti-American,
anti-freedom, anti everything this great country stands for. It's
made even more unreal given the fact that the person making it feels
like some great patriot. I just want to puke, puke, puke...... God
help you if you ever go to Vietnam Memorial you spineless lick. I
hope they forgive you on the other side.

William S Everhart 90512 wrote:

On Tue, 13 Jul 2004 18:06:00 -0500, "Stinger"
wrote:

The times for debate are before and after a war -- not during it.

This statement makes me puke my guts out. It's so anti-American,
anti-freedom, anti everything this great country stands for. It's
made even more unreal given the fact that the person making it feels
like some great patriot. I just want to puke, puke, puke...... God
help you if you ever go to Vietnam Memorial you spineless lick. I
hope they forgive you on the other side.

Be careful, you've been puking for days now. You'll dehydrate.

Personally, I think the guys on the wall would kick your ass.

dxAce

"Dan" wrote in message
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On 13 Jul 2004 21:27:15 GMT, ospam (Michael Bryant)
wrote:

Yes, it is easy to reassess the necessity of war when you have some
chance of
ending up dead from it. On the other hand, age, and it's insulation from
war,
seems to make arm chair generals out of some.

If you think it's easier to send your child off to war than it is to
send yourself, then once again you have no idea what you are talking
about.

Again, wisdom and perspective come only with age. It's easy to shout
that "war is not the answer" when you are young, stupid and don't
realize what is at stake.

Which pretty much describes you, doesn't it?

Dan

Well, the stupid part anyway.

The comparisons between a soldier and a doctor aren't even close. Soldiers are trained
to use whatever force it takes to achieve an objective. In short, a soldier is
essentially paid and rewarded by the government to kill or wipe out an opponent by
whatever means possible. A doctor is trained to save lives by whatever means possible
and sometimes they don't always succeed. That's simple reality and generally they
probably save many more lives than the ones they lose.

A doctor can chose his or her patients but a soldier has no choice with whom they
chose as an opponent. A soldier is purely a tool of a government (of one form or
another). Fortunately, doctors are not so much tools of a governement.

The fact that you wouldn't want to deliver bad news makes me think that perhaps you
don't quite feel 100% that it is "worth it".

Health, prosperity and peace to you!

John Barnard

Dan wrote:

On Wed, 14 Jul 2004 04:57:45 GMT, John Barnard wrote:

Just out of curiosity, do you think that it would still be worth it if you had to
deliver the bad news to the families and loved ones of somebody killed in such
conflicts day after day. Could you look them all in the eye and say "It was worth
it that your son or daughter or husband or wife was killed over there"?

Of course it's still "worth it". I would not want that job, however,
any more than I would want to be a doctor telling families day after
day that grampa died or your child died at birth or whatever. There
are people who are cut out for that and there are people who are not.
It has no relevance as to whether the war is "worth it" or not.

Is being a doctor "worth it" when you have to tell people day after
day that a loved one has died? What a stupid question!

The USA threatened its own survival by giving these fanatics weapons in the first
place. I sure as hell hope that the USA learns never to give weapons to fanatics
of any type ever again.

Amen to that.

Dan

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"William S Everhart 90512" wrote in message
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| On Tue, 13 Jul 2004 18:06:00 -0500, "Stinger"
| wrote:
|
| The times for debate are before and after a war -- not during it.
|
|
| This statement makes me puke my guts out. It's so anti-American,
| anti-freedom, anti everything this great country stands for. It's
| made even more unreal given the fact that the person making it feels
| like some great patriot. I just want to puke, puke, puke...... God
| help you if you ever go to Vietnam Memorial you spineless lick. I
| hope they forgive you on the other side.


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You have some vomit to choke on, Slippery Bill.


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"William S Everhart 90512" wrote in message
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| On Tue, 13 Jul 2004 18:06:00 -0500, "Stinger"
| wrote:
|
| The times for debate are before and after a war -- not during it.
|
|
| This statement makes me puke my guts out. It's so anti-American,
| anti-freedom, anti everything this great country stands for. It's
| made even more unreal given the fact that the person making it feels
| like some great patriot. I just want to puke, puke, puke...... God
| help you if you ever go to Vietnam Memorial you spineless lick. I
| hope they forgive you on the other side.


Agreed, Steven. In his and his liberal friends' twisted view of reality, he
believes that he's being a "patriot" by opposing the efforts of our troops
while they are deployed. In any other era of American history, he would be
seen for the idiot that he is. However, once you see that someone has drunk
that deeply of the Kool-Aid, it isn't really worth a reply -- it speaks for
itself.

-- Stinger

On 11 Jul 2004 14:47:08 -0500, Dan wrote:


The fact is, there *is* no alternative to this war. Either we fight
and win, or we give up our entire way of life.


Yep -- the USA Patriot Act saw to that, once and for all.