"ben" writes:

"Neil Bell" wrote in message
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Anyone with both of these radios care to share veiws on the relative
AM/FM performance??
Neil Bell

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as when they do it from religious conviction."
-- Blaise Pascal

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No contest, the Sony 7600GR blows the 909 away on EVERYTHING!



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Man, you must have some sort of past with the 909 that is really
horrible.

-Al

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ben wrote:

No contest, the Sony 7600GR blows the 909 away on EVERYTHING!

This is turning in to a 'chicken or the egg' topic. It's been
debated
endlessly and is bordering on flame bait. I tried the Sony and took
it
back. I have a 909 AND a 398 which was bought used. Both are
excellent.
The importance of having a tuning knob wasn't evident to me until I
had
to do without. The SSB performance is also better. All in my
opinion, of
course.



Finally common ground! I remain unable to fathom the distinct
differences between the two claimed by some--particularly in favor of
the Sony. In fact, I think that the FM performance of the 909 is
actually superior, particularly when you consider it's, at a minimum,
a somewhat better -sounding- radio. The Sony may have a slight edge
in AM sensitivity (I use a RS loop), but I'm not convinced its
meaningful, at least in the mid-Atlantic where I am.

T. Early wrote:

Finally common ground! I remain unable to fathom the distinct
differences between the two claimed by some--particularly in favor of
the Sony. In fact, I think that the FM performance of the 909 is
actually superior, particularly when you consider it's, at a minimum,
a somewhat better -sounding- radio. The Sony may have a slight edge
in AM sensitivity (I use a RS loop), but I'm not convinced its
meaningful, at least in the mid-Atlantic where I am.

Don't the waves get the radio wet?

I couldn't detect any differences either. The sync detector was, at
least on this particular set, very ineffective. It may as well not have
been there at all. Almost a hundred percent of the usage is indoors, so
plugging in the antenna is no big deal. I'm also hard pressed to find
much difference between the 909 and the Superadio on MW reception.
Speaker size notwithstanding, the 909 is preferable to me because of the
digital frequency display. With the Superadio, it's guesswork. I've been
tempted to start poking around the insides with a cheap frequency
counter. Once I found out where I can get a count, I'd wire a jack into
the body for future use.

I haven't tried the GE with an external wire yet, so I can't comment.


Many people seem to have a need to 'tweak' the 7600 to improve it.

http://stephan.win31.de/sony7600.htm

In all fairness, there are also lots of modifications for the 909.


mike


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On Sat, 14 Aug 2004 16:53:15 GMT, Al Arduengo
wrote:

"ben" writes:

"Neil Bell" wrote in message
...
Anyone with both of these radios care to share veiws on the relative
AM/FM performance??
Neil Bell

"Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully
as when they do it from religious conviction."
-- Blaise Pascal

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No contest, the Sony 7600GR blows the 909 away on EVERYTHING!



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Man, you must have some sort of past with the 909 that is really
horrible.

-Al
Well, I have both (actually the DX398) and on the same antenna for
most cases the only difference is the fact that they have different
audio characteristics. I say most because there have been some cases
where the Sony has been able to more clearly pick out some tough
stations that could not be intelligibly heard on the 398/909 .... and
the difference wasn't the synch as it wasn't used on those weaker
signals. For SSB I like the finer tuning offered on the 398/909 vs
the rotary pot adjustment on the Sony and for travel I prefer the Sony
as it's lighter and easier on batteries. Overall, I'd say they are on
par with each other....though if I could keep only one it'd be the
Sony. In the end ........ well, there will never be an end to this
debate/discussion so just get whichever one pleases you the most based
on contrasting features cost.
Howard

"m II" wrote in message
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T. Early wrote:

Finally common ground! I remain unable to fathom the distinct
differences between the two claimed by some--particularly in favor
of
the Sony. In fact, I think that the FM performance of the 909 is
actually superior, particularly when you consider it's, at a
minimum,
a somewhat better -sounding- radio. The Sony may have a slight
edge
in AM sensitivity (I use a RS loop), but I'm not convinced its
meaningful, at least in the mid-Atlantic where I am.

Don't the waves get the radio wet?


Hardly. I'm shocked you don't realize that we neocons all tool around
on 72 ft. yachts where the only spray is from minimum wage lackeys
swabbing the decks. All the better to fill Cheney's coffers while
getting 4 mpg.

I was wondering who was going to notice that BTW.

T. Early wrote:

Don't the waves get the radio wet?


Hardly. I'm shocked you don't realize that we neocons all tool around
on 72 ft. yachts where the only spray is from minimum wage lackeys
swabbing the decks. All the better to fill Cheney's coffers while
getting 4 mpg.

I admire your honesty if not your criminal tendencies. Your 'mileage'
business has me worried, however. A successful criminal in your 'league'
would know it's not miles.

http://home.earthlink.net/~swier/logline.html


I was wondering who was going to notice that BTW.


We all did. I was the only one petty enough to comment on it.




mike

"Al Arduengo" wrote in message
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"ben" writes:

"Neil Bell" wrote in message
...
Anyone with both of these radios care to share veiws on the relative
AM/FM performance??
Neil Bell

"Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully
as when they do it from religious conviction."
-- Blaise Pascal

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No contest, the Sony 7600GR blows the 909 away on EVERYTHING!



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Man, you must have some sort of past with the 909 that is really
horrible.

-Al

No not at all, I own the 7600gr and the new version of the super 909 as
well as the regular 909. I find the 7600 so much better in all aspects that
I hardly ever even bother to use the 909's at all, wish I had not bothered
buying them. I just got drawn in by all the advertising on *how good they
are* I live in the UK mind, and shortwave over here is very good in general,
I can hear things on my 7600gr on its telescopic whip that both the 909's
can't even pick up on a 100' longwire.
Ben

ben wrote:

I can hear things on my 7600gr on its telescopic whip that both the 909's
can't even pick up on a 100' longwire.

I think you've mistaken nylon fishing line for METAL wire. If not, your
assessment far exceeds the normally accepted limits of credibility.



mike

Agreed. Maybe hearing voices in his head?

"m II" wrote in message
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ben wrote:

I can hear things on my 7600gr on its telescopic whip that both the
909's
can't even pick up on a 100' longwire.

I think you've mistaken nylon fishing line for METAL wire. If not, your
assessment far exceeds the normally accepted limits of credibility.



mike

m II schrieb:

I think you've mistaken nylon fishing line for METAL wire. If not, your
assessment far exceeds the normally accepted limits of credibility.


For sure you know NOTHING about european situation for receiving SW BC.
This is NO WAY comparable with situation in US/ northern America.
There are MUCH more local/ european stations over here than in America.
So in Europe selectivity is the main arguement for a SW-RX -not
fidelity- as there is no space left on the spectrum. At least there is
one or more stations on every 5khz spacing in SW-BCB. Even MW is 9khz
spacing here and not 10 as in the US.
And one thing is proven: Every Sony 7600 (even an outdated 'D'-model)
runs circles around a 909 in selectivity perfomance in conjunction with
sensitivity on crowded bands.

So what's about YOUR credibility, LOSER.