DxAss wrote:
They cannot come and go freely, whenever and wherever they choose.

Another example of how "Free" US citizens are.

http://www.pakistantimes.net/2004/07/23/wire5.htm

Chess legend Fischer faces possible 60 day detention in Japan
Pakistan Times Wire Service

TOKYO (Japan): Fugitive US chess legend Bobby Fischer could be held up to 60 days in detention while Japanese authorities decide whether to deport him for immigration violation, a justice ministry official said Friday.

Fischer, 61, wanted by the United States since the early 1990s for breaking an economic embargo on Yugoslavia, was arrested at Tokyo's Narita airport on July 13 for violating immigration law as he tried to catch a flight to Manila.

The United States revoked Fischer's passport last December. He faces up to 10 years in prison if he is found guilty.

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He was playing Chess in country the US government didn't like, 10 Years In Jail for You.
This is Steve's Idea of Freedom.


I support dxAce completely in this. Fischer deserves the DEATH penalty.
He was actually caught on video tape playing CHESS against the wishes of
the United States government.

A country, if it is to survive as a nation, can *NOT* have it's citizens
playing chess anywhere and anytime they see fit. Fischer and all the
other rogue chess players should be sent, at the very minimum, to Abu
Graib Torture Centre, where they will be taught to respect rightful
American Government Authority.

This disease of disrespect, so rampant in our Chess playing population,
must be nipped in the bud before infecting other, still law abiding
groups. Imagine outlaw CHECKER gangs. Mobs of vandalizing BRIDGE players
and murderous Monopoly enclaves come to mind.

Death to Fischer! It's for the good of all. Bless America and may God
continue to guide the President's hand against the evil Islamic hordes
who most likely invented this game of Satan that has so twisted the
souls of unfortunates like the now Demonic Fischer.



mike

I am a bit tired of the USA trying to force hard capitalism and
American style this.. American style that.. on everyone in the world.

RedOctober90 wrote:

I am a bit tired of the USA trying to force hard capitalism and
American style this.. American style that.. on everyone in the world.

That's a bit like complaining about the BBC World Service trying to force
British style this.. and British style that..on everyone in the world.

dxAce

dxAce wrote:

RedOctober90 wrote:


I am a bit tired of the USA trying to force hard capitalism and
American style this.. American style that.. on everyone in the world.


That's a bit like complaining about the BBC World Service trying to force
British style this.. and British style that..on everyone in the world.

dxAce

Not at all. The BBC is a broadcaster, the USA is a violent, corporate
run fascist state. See the difference?




mike

m II wrote:

dxAce wrote:

RedOctober90 wrote:


I am a bit tired of the USA trying to force hard capitalism and
American style this.. American style that.. on everyone in the world.


That's a bit like complaining about the BBC World Service trying to force
British style this.. and British style that..on everyone in the world.

dxAce

Not at all. The BBC is a broadcaster, the USA is a violent, corporate
run fascist state. See the difference?

Well, actually as far as I know, Cuba is in violation of various treaties
covering broadcasting...

The USA is merely trying to get its message out in the face of Cuban jamming.

dxAce

dxAce wrote:
No, it is not. One cannot 'dodge the draft' and be a member of the National
Guard at the same time.

However, when you petition your draft board for a deferment and get turned
down, so you're pretty sure you're going to get drafted, you can decide
to enlist in the Navy Reserves.

From the book: "John Kerry's service record indicates that on February 18,
1966, he enlisted in the United States Naval Reserves, status 'inactive',
not in the U.S. Navy. These details are conveniently left out of all
pro-Kerry biographies. Douglas Brinkley records that Kerry entered
Offer Candidate School in Newport, Rhode Island; however, again he fails
to note that Kerry was seeking to be an officer of the U.S. Naval Reserve."

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Both Kerry and Edwards announced their candidacy near the beginning of September,
2003, so let's only count votes before then. From January, 2003, to August, 2003,
Senator Edwards didn't vote 69 out of 320 opportunities (~22%) and Senator Kerry
didn't vote 182 out of 320 opportunities (~57%). http://www.mwilliams.info/archives/001349.php

m II wrote:
Not at all. The BBC is a broadcaster, the USA is a violent, corporate
run fascist state. See the difference?

You need to escape and seek asylum in an understanding nation like Cuba.

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Both Kerry and Edwards announced their candidacy near the beginning of September,
2003, so let's only count votes before then. From January, 2003, to August, 2003,
Senator Edwards didn't vote 69 out of 320 opportunities (~22%) and Senator Kerry
didn't vote 182 out of 320 opportunities (~57%). http://www.mwilliams.info/archives/001349.php

clifto wrote:


From the book: "John Kerry's service record indicates that on February 18,
1966, he enlisted in the United States Naval Reserves, status 'inactive',
not in the U.S. Navy. These details are conveniently left out of all
pro-Kerry biographies. Douglas Brinkley records that Kerry entered
Offer Candidate School in Newport, Rhode Island; however, again he fails
to note that Kerry was seeking to be an officer of the U.S. Naval Reserve."

So he took part in a "delayed enlistment program", where you sign up,
are placed on inactive reserve status, and several months to a year
later go to active duty. Why are these guys making such a big deal of
it?

I did that myself with the Air Force. It has the benefit of giving you
an earlier time-in-service date for promotions and stuff, and keeping
you away from the Army's draft notices. I was on inactive status with
the US Air Force Reserve from May to August, 1972, then went to basic
training and onto active duty status with the US Air Force until May,
1984 when I got out with a full 12 years time in service.

It was very commonly done, especially for someone who wanted to finish
school or something without the Army's draft hanging over your head; you
are already committed to (and on inactive reserve status with) the
branch you desired, and don't have to play games if the Army decided to
send you a notice.

Most officers become "reserve officers" and are granted an active
commission. These guys that wrote the book you are quoting from are
purely playing games with the language in an attempt to fool those who
don't know any better and make something that is common (and innocent,
and accepted) look like something sneaky and underhanded. When people
ask me I don't go into the big explanation about the delayed enlistment
and inactive reserve service; I just say that I was in the Air Force
from August 1972 to May 1984, and usually don't bother to mention that
chunk of time; it was really meaningless in a military context. The
*only* thing I did was sign a contract indicating my intent to go to
active duty at a specific date; there were no drills involved, uniforms,
haircuts, or anything else. I was still in school, then I enjoyed most
of my summer vacation before going downtoen to Whiehall Street for my
final induction.

--
Mike
NAR #70953 - Sr/HPR Level-1 ~ BEMRC - NAR Section #627
NO Junk Email, please! Real email to: amphoto [at] blarg [dot] net.
WANTED: Experienced Kamikaze Pilot

I am a bit tired of the USA trying to force hard capitalism and
American style this.. American style that.. on everyone in the world.

I've never understood this argument. I don't for one agree with all of
the Bush administration's policies...but at the same time why do
people complain when American companies bring their products to
foreign markets? Are the Japanese trying to force their culture on us
by selling all their cars here?

If people don't like it, they won't buy the products...but people
overseas WANT American products. No one is forcing it on them.

clifto wrote:
m II wrote:

Not at all. The BBC is a broadcaster, the USA is a violent, corporate
run fascist state. See the difference?


You need to escape and seek asylum in an understanding nation like Cuba.

Nope. I hate totalitarian states with dictatorships. It's disgusting to
see how little regard you have for your Bill of Rights and Constitution.
Your freedoms are being eroded quicker than ever before.

Everything your founding fathers warned against is being done to you Now
and from within. Wake up!




mike