Yes. I learned long ago (and anyone on here that is truly into radio should
also know this) that the best way to hear a debate is on the radio, just the
way I heard this one. TV throws in to many visual influences that, while
subconscious, have an impact on your perception. The radio gives you what
you should be paying attention to, content. I am surprised that so many
people make judgments about someone's ability to do a job (other than public
speaking ) on the basis of their ability to speak to an audience. Some of
(most actually) of the most intelligent and capable people I know are not
good public speakers. Some of the slimiest, car salesmen and lawyers, could
talk anyone into anything. If you are electing a bull****er, listen to how
he speaks. If you are electing a president, listen to what he says.

"-=jd=-" wrote in message

So, instead of counting the eye-blinks of anyone facing high-wattage
stage-lighting, wouldn't it be more revealing to listen closely to what
was said?

On Sat, 02 Oct 2004 06:37:55 -0400, "Mark S. Holden"
wrote:

juny wrote:
On Sun, 3 Oct 2004 13:38:17 -0400, "Jack" wrote:


Yea but you shoulda seen the frigging retard Bush twistin in the wind when
he couldnt come up with a half assed answer or defend himself...or the
machine gun stutter...Pure ignorance at work!

Jeeze are all republicans that ****ing retarded?
"

I believe that it has been proven that an unusual high number of
eye-blinks, made by a person while speaking, indicate that the person
doing the blinking is lying.

Whether it is true in this case, look at the clips of the debate and
judge for yourself.

juny


In the clips used in the DNC "Faces of Frustration" video, the person
who is talking is Senator Kerry.

I'm not sure what inferences you can draw about the President blinking
while listening to his opponent.


I did NOT say that the President blinked while listening to his
opponent, I said " I believe that it has been proven that an unusual
high number of eye-blinks, made by a person WHILE SPEAKING, indicate
that the person doing the blinking (while speaking) is lying".

Also, at to the "bright lights rebuttal, why did Senator Kerry not
have rapid eye blinks WHILE SPEAKING? Wasn't he in the same room and
under the same lights as the President? Come on, that is a very poor
excuse (bright lights) to justify the blinking of the President, while
speaking.

I also did not directly say that the President was lying, I said "
look at the clips of the debate and judge for yourself". And that is
exactly what I meant - make up your mind for yourself, just keep in
mind what I said!

juny

Al Dykes wrote:

In article ,
-=jd=- wrote:
On Fri 01 Oct 2004 09:11:46p, juny wrote in message
news
On Sun, 3 Oct 2004 13:38:17 -0400, "Jack" wrote:

Yea but you shoulda seen the frigging retard Bush twistin in the wind
when
he couldnt come up with a half assed answer or defend himself...or the
machine gun stutter...Pure ignorance at work!

Jeeze are all republicans that ****ing retarded?

"

I believe that it has been proven that an unusual high number of
eye-blinks, made by a person while speaking, indicate that the person
doing the blinking is lying.

Whether it is true in this case, look at the clips of the debate and
judge for yourself.

juny



And if your ears are burning, then "someone is talking about you..."

And if your nose itches, "you will have visitors soon..."

And "(insert some other web-propagated nonsense here)..."

You don't have to watch for stuff like that, all you have to do is listen
to their words...

For just *one* example, didn't Kerry state something along the lines of
"he remembered (after the collapse of communisim in Russia) going down
into the basements of Treblinka and seeing all the files/documents with
peoples names on them..."


He meant Lubyanka. I could make that mistake.

You make a lot of mistakes, Al.

I bet he's been to both,
and both made a deep impression on him.

Better check Al, that may not be true.

Georgie's been to neither.

That's the worst gaff of the night on Kery's part.

You can't even spell your 'boys' name right anymore. Panic attack?

OTOH, Bush said we were attacked by SH. Kerry hard to correct him.

Kerry 'hard'?

LMAO at the 'tard.

dxAce
Michigan
USA

In article , (Al Dykes)
wrote:

In article ,
-=jd=- wrote:
On Fri 01 Oct 2004 09:11:46p, juny wrote in message
news
On Sun, 3 Oct 2004 13:38:17 -0400, "Jack" wrote:

Yea but you shoulda seen the frigging retard Bush twistin in the wind
when
he couldnt come up with a half assed answer or defend himself...or the
machine gun stutter...Pure ignorance at work!

Jeeze are all republicans that ****ing retarded?

"

I believe that it has been proven that an unusual high number of
eye-blinks, made by a person while speaking, indicate that the person
doing the blinking is lying.

Whether it is true in this case, look at the clips of the debate and
judge for yourself.

juny



And if your ears are burning, then "someone is talking about you..."

And if your nose itches, "you will have visitors soon..."

And "(insert some other web-propagated nonsense here)..."

You don't have to watch for stuff like that, all you have to do is listen
to their words...

For just *one* example, didn't Kerry state something along the lines of
"he remembered (after the collapse of communisim in Russia) going down
into the basements of Treblinka and seeing all the files/documents with
peoples names on them..."


He meant Lubyanka. I could make that mistake. I bet he's been to both,
and both made a deep impression on him.

Was it seared in his mind?

I want to listen to the other debates but I don't know if I can tolerate
the extent of Kerry's lying.

He was dead set against Ron Reagan's escalation of the cold war to push
the USSR into defeat and wanted a nuclear freeze instead but in this
last debate he stated he would govern like Reagan and Kennedy. This man
is just sickening and does not tell the truth about anything but then he
is a very convincing lier isn't he.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

"Telamon" wrote in message
news:telamon_spamshield-

He was dead set against Ron Reagan's escalation of the cold war to push
the USSR into defeat and wanted a nuclear freeze instead but in this
last debate he stated he would govern like Reagan and Kennedy. This man
is just sickening and does not tell the truth about anything

Neither did Billy the twit and they elected him, twice. Character makes no
difference anymore.

juny wrote:

On Sat, 02 Oct 2004 06:37:55 -0400, "Mark S. Holden"
wrote:


juny wrote:


I believe that it has been proven that an unusual high number of
eye-blinks, made by a person while speaking, indicate that the person
doing the blinking is lying.

Whether it is true in this case, look at the clips of the debate and
judge for yourself.

juny


In the clips used in the DNC "Faces of Frustration" video, the person
who is talking is Senator Kerry.

I'm not sure what inferences you can draw about the President blinking
while listening to his opponent.



I did NOT say that the President blinked while listening to his
opponent, I said " I believe that it has been proven that an unusual
high number of eye-blinks, made by a person WHILE SPEAKING, indicate
that the person doing the blinking (while speaking) is lying".


snip

Your post implied the President was blinking while speaking.

I pointed out he was listening.

So your observation about blinking while speaking wouldn't apply to the
President in the clips.

Yea but you shoulda seen the frigging retard Bush twistin in the wind when
he couldnt come up with a half assed answer or defend himself...or the
machine gun stutter...Pure ignorance at work!

Jeeze are all republicans that ****ing retarded?

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


yojimbo wrote:

Fox News was in charge of the pool camera for the debates. They caught
some
moments of pure magic, where a picture told untold thousands of words.
Did
you see how angry Bush looked when they did cutaway shots to him early
while
Kerry answered? Whereas Kerry always looked calm and in control when
Bush
was tripping over himself? Bet Rupert got on the phone quick, because
they
stopped the cutaways to Bush as the debate progressed and the president
kept
wilting. It needs to be stressed for those who didn't get a chance to
watch
the debates that when Bush wasn't clearly dazed and confused, he looked
enraged. The contrast between the candidates couldn't have been more
pronounced. One candidate looked like a President and Commander in Chief
tonight, and it was NOT George W. Bush. I'm being kind and generous with
my
words, this was not pretty, it was devastating.

I didn't watch it on TV. It's always been my experience that it is best to
'listen', rather than 'watch'.

The President did just fine.

dxAce

juny wrote:
Also, at to the "bright lights rebuttal, why did Senator Kerry not
have rapid eye blinks WHILE SPEAKING? Wasn't he in the same room and
under the same lights as the President? Come on, that is a very poor
excuse (bright lights) to justify the blinking of the President, while
speaking.

You must really really really think we're stupid. Even liberals know
that different people react in different ways to different stimuli.
Even some rock stars wear sunglasses because they can't stand the bright
lights, even after years of getting accustomed to them.

--
"One month from today, the American dream is on the ballot." -- John Kerry, 10/2

So is the American Nightmare, Jack-F... the thought of you in the White House.
Please go back to Communist Viet Nam where you're appreciated.

On Sun, 03 Oct 2004 13:46:31 -0500, clifto wrote:

juny wrote:
Also, at to the "bright lights rebuttal, why did Senator Kerry not
have rapid eye blinks WHILE SPEAKING? Wasn't he in the same room and
under the same lights as the President? Come on, that is a very poor
excuse (bright lights) to justify the blinking of the President, while
speaking.

You must really really really think we're stupid. Even liberals know
that different people react in different ways to different stimuli.
Even some rock stars wear sunglasses because they can't stand the bright
lights, even after years of getting accustomed to them.

That's interesting. He (Mr. President) doesn't do the rapid eye blink
at any other time, while being under all kinds of lighting conditions
for television, yet he did it during the debate, while speaking.

By the way, I am a registered Republican and trying to express my
opinion. You don't have to be a "Liberal" to express an observation
that is contrary to yours!

juny

juny wrote:
On Sun, 03 Oct 2004 13:46:31 -0500, clifto wrote:


juny wrote:

Also, at to the "bright lights rebuttal, why did Senator Kerry not
have rapid eye blinks WHILE SPEAKING? Wasn't he in the same room and
under the same lights as the President? Come on, that is a very poor
excuse (bright lights) to justify the blinking of the President, while
speaking.

You must really really really think we're stupid. Even liberals know
that different people react in different ways to different stimuli.
Even some rock stars wear sunglasses because they can't stand the bright
lights, even after years of getting accustomed to them.


That's interesting. He (Mr. President) doesn't do the rapid eye blink
at any other time, while being under all kinds of lighting conditions
for television, yet he did it during the debate, while speaking.


You might want to take another look at that DNC video. Sen. Kerry is
the one who is talking when President Bush is blinking.