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Old October 16th 04, 10:14 PM
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I don't know if there were personal recorders, but the University of Washington
has recorded archives of news broadcasts from local radio stations.

You can also get newsreels from the National Archives (pretty expensive).

SR writes:

I was wondering if durring WW2, did people record audio broadcast on
shortwave and if they, what are these recording called and where could I
hear them at?


73

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Old October 17th 04, 12:15 AM
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How about these more recent Arabian ordeals??

It'd be interesting to hear military communications captured from HF
pertaining to actual events. We were able to listen to real time
intelligence (so it seemed) during Gulf Storm I, just below 7 MHz. It
was a very popular thing with large groups gathering on 10m and
talking about all the traffic as it passed on HF.

On Fri, 15 Oct 2004 23:56:21 +0100, SR wrote:

I was wondering if durring WW2, did people record audio broadcast on
shortwave and if they, what are these recording called and where could I
hear them at?

73


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Old October 17th 04, 02:16 AM
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Brenda Ann Dyer wrote:

Didn't the government discourage use of SW radios during WWII? I seem to
remember reading where there was some mandate to remove SW reception
capabilities from radios during that time?


Amateur radio was not allowed during the war. SW transceivers were
confiscated from 'suspicious' citizens, particularly those of German and
Japanese ancestry. The government used radio direction finding aircraft
to locate the source of clandestine SW transmissions. I heard a story
from a local veteran about a military plane flying over the area looking
for a transmitter. A few days later they found the person who was a
German sympathizer. I imagine he spent the rest of the war in a prison
camp.


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Old October 17th 04, 02:35 AM
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"RHF" wrote in message
om...

You may even find a recording of "The Voice of Doom" from WW2 )

A Bonanza of Information - Oh those Canadians - Alpo any one ? ~ RHF


From what I've heard there may only be one air check in existence of Lorne
Greene reading the news on CBC Radio during World War II. He was after all
"just" an announcer (as well as a radio actor) rather than an actual
reporter. What does exist is a lot of material from reporters like Matthew
Halton who were at the front with Canadian troops. Most of the material you
find of this sort is the actual "raw" recordings that Halton and other
reporters made on site using "portable" transcription disk recorders. The
process of getting this material on the air (from say the Italian Front) was
to send the disks to an airbase where transports were flying, fly them to a
shortwave transmitter site in North Africa (Algeria I think) where they'd be
transmitted to London. In London the reports would again be put on disk and
that would be transmitted by shortwave to the CBC.

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Old October 17th 04, 04:17 AM
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"Michael Black" wrote in message
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Indeed I seem to recall something about how various recordings were lost
during the war because they were recycled due to shortages.

Unfortunately,
I can't remember where I might have read that, or even if I'm just

imagining
it.

Michael


That makes sense. The most common disks were made of aluminum with a
acetate recording surface. Aluminum was probably the most important metal
in the wartime scrap drives.

Frank Dresserr




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Old October 18th 04, 01:44 AM
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On Sat, 16 Oct 2004 12:59:40 -0500, Frank Dresser wrote
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"SR" wrote in message
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I was wondering if durring WW2, did people record audio broadcast on
shortwave and if they, what are these recording called and where could I
hear them at?

73


The US government was very interested in US citizens, such as Tokyo Rose and
Ezra Pound, broadcasting from enemy countries . They recorded those
broadcasts, and the recordings were used in the trials. The recordings are
probably stored in the National Archives or someplace like that.



There were magnetic tape recordings used during World War 2.


Can you say, "Magnetophon"? There, I knew you could. And it was off an USA
invention, at that.


Gray
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Dux


Practically nobody had recording equipment back then. Consumer wire
recorders weren't available until after the war. EH Scott was recording
broadcasts from Australia onto disks back in the thirties, and he might have
done some of that during the war. I'll bet there weren't any blank disks
available to civilians during the war.

Frank Dresser





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Old October 18th 04, 02:03 AM
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Gray Shockley wrote:

There were magnetic tape recordings used during World War 2.


Can you say, "Magnetophon"? There, I knew you could. And it was off an USA
invention, at that.



I thought it was based on the German developed *wire* recorder. Same
idea as tape, just using an easily magnetized wire..

http://www.ieee-virtual-museum.org/c...=2345848&lid=1



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Old October 18th 04, 09:44 AM
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dxAce wrote in message ...


They shut down amateur radio transmitting at the time, however I do not think
that receiving was curtailed.

dxAce
Michigan
USA


I have two issues of that Jan 42 QST. In the center of it, it had a 4
page yellow paper announcement to that effect. I activated the
scanning device here in studio X, and ran off copies of all 4 pages.
These are reduced quality to quicken d/l speeds, but should still be
quite readable. They are really yellow, but I scanned in b/w to also
reduce the file size. This will give an idea of the amateur mindset at
that time. BTW, in some countries, I believe even receiving was
frowned upon. Mainly because the osc stages in the radios could be
used to track the location of the receiver, and theoretically could be
used by the enemy for tracking purposes. But I think that was more in
Europe, than in the U.S. IE: England was pretty strict, and have been
for years. They used to use that osc tracking method to hunt down
receivers that hadn't paid the radio tax, or whatever they
required...Same for TV's I think.

The QST images are in my ISP "briefcase" at :
http://briefcase.wt.net/cgi-perl/Lis...26b32620cf18ea

They are the four files named WW2-??.jpg....MK
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Old October 18th 04, 06:37 PM
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"Gray Shockley" wrote in message
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There were magnetic tape recordings used during World War 2.


That's true. When I wrote "practically nobody had recording equipment back
then", I was refering to individuals. Of course, there was also alot of
professional disk recording equipment around in the US.

I don't know what they used to record Ezra Pound and Tokyo Rose, but I've
read the quality was poor. I assumed it was disks, but tape would have been
preferable, because it's easily flagged for reference.




Can you say, "Magnetophon"? There, I knew you could. And it was off an USA
invention, at that.


Gray
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Dux



Here's a reference I stumbled across while I was looking up something else:

http://www.tvhandbook.com/History/History_tape.htm

And:

http://www.tvhandbook.com/History/History_mullin.htm

Frank Dresser


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Old October 19th 04, 12:31 AM
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In article ,
Frank Dresser wrote:

"Gray Shockley" wrote in message
s.com...


There were magnetic tape recordings used during World War 2.


That's true. When I wrote "practically nobody had recording equipment back
then", I was refering to individuals. Of course, there was also alot of
professional disk recording equipment around in the US.


Back when I was in college, the main library there had magazines in the
stacks going back to just after WW II, mostly the Gernsback ones (what
later became Radio-Electronics). One issue, of probably Radio News,
had a feature on a field reporters sound recorder that used phonograph
type mechanical cutting on a flexible tape. About the size of a suitcase
or portable typewriter. I think the tape was continuous, threaded on a
bunch of pulleys.

Mark Zenier Washington State resident


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