It appears from past posts that AM/FM questions are fair game here; I
apologize in advance to any hard-core SWers.

I'm looking for the best, relatively inexpensive ($150) home radio
for listening to talk radio with the following
considertaions/constraints...

1.) I like to listen to a somewhat difficult to receive FM station
day & night which my home cheapie radios don't pick up well (though
the cars do very well). It would appear for FM you can't do better
than a Model One (http://www.tivoliaudio.com/product.p...139&cat=&page=)
(one such review: http://wkhr.org/articles.htm). The Boston
Acoustics Recepter is reported to perform as well as the Model One
(CNET says better --
http://reviews.cnet.com/Boston_Acous...2.html?tag=top),
though it's a bit more expensive.

2.) There's a local, fairly low-power (harder to hear at night than
day) AM sports station I like to listen to. In two of our cars I get
decent daytime reception. Nighttime reception is spotty at best.
Cheapie home radios don't pick up the station well at all.

It would appear the CC Radio
(http://www.ccrane.com/ccradio-plus-am-fm-radio.aspx) comes highly
recommended by many, though just as many seem to say the much less
expensive GE Superadio III
(http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg...onics&n=172282)
does as well if not better. This is apparently due to the longer AM
antannae in these radios.

The Model One seems to have fairly pedestrian AM reception
(http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=e...N%26tab %3Dwg).

3.) I like to catch NBA & MLB games (and the few late NFL games) on
AM late at night, no matter the station. I'm in the Carolinas, and
can catch 1120 from St. Louis, 880 from NYC, and 1000 from Cleveland
(iirc) in one car with varying results. The reception is pretty noisy
and usually goes in and out. But, depending on weather, I can usually
find something worth listening to in the car. Not so with any other
vehicles or home radios (though, strangely, my Sony Walkman picks up
AM fairly well, but perhaps only b/c it's so easy to move around for
better pickup). Again, I suppose the CCRadio or, more likely, the
Superadio would be the better choice out of the box.

4.) The Model One looks kewl.

5.) I want a fixed-location, indoor radio, so adding antannae isn't
an issue and battery power isn't a big plus.

Any specific recommendations/remarks would be appreciated, but I do
have one pointed question -- it appears a good, external AM antennae
like those at C. Crane (http://www.ccrane.com/am-antenna.aspx) or
perhaps even the kits sold here
(http://www.mtmscientific.com/loop.html or
http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Underground/8585/) turn most any
AM radio into a pretty high-class receiver. Is that true? Would
something like the C Crane antennae or even a Radio Shack loop turn a
Model One into a great AM box? If so, why the upset over, eg, the
Model One's AM reception like the thread quoted at the end of 2.),
above? Is there anything about my desire for AM reception as
described in 2 & 3 that would override my irrational desire for 4,
were I willing to shell out for an AM antennae?

Thanks!

Ruffin Bailey

I use a Drake SW2 with an MFJ-1024 antenna.

For your $150 price target there's a Sony (7600G?) with a sync
detector. That and a nice external speaker should do you OK.


On 27 Nov 2004 05:40:46 -0800, (Ruffin Bailey)
wrote:

I have the SuperRadio III-it is fantastic for Am and FM is good also.

Steve


On 27 Nov 2004 05:40:46 -0800, (Ruffin Bailey)
wrote:

It appears from past posts that AM/FM questions are fair game here; I
apologize in advance to any hard-core SWers.

I'm looking for the best, relatively inexpensive ($150) home radio
for listening to talk radio with the following
considertaions/constraints...

1.) I like to listen to a somewhat difficult to receive FM station
day & night which my home cheapie radios don't pick up well (though
the cars do very well). It would appear for FM you can't do better
than a Model One (http://www.tivoliaudio.com/product.p...139&cat=&page=)
(one such review: http://wkhr.org/articles.htm). The Boston
Acoustics Recepter is reported to perform as well as the Model One
(CNET says better --
http://reviews.cnet.com/Boston_Acous...2.html?tag=top),
though it's a bit more expensive.

2.) There's a local, fairly low-power (harder to hear at night than
day) AM sports station I like to listen to. In two of our cars I get
decent daytime reception. Nighttime reception is spotty at best.
Cheapie home radios don't pick up the station well at all.

It would appear the CC Radio
(http://www.ccrane.com/ccradio-plus-am-fm-radio.aspx) comes highly
recommended by many, though just as many seem to say the much less
expensive GE Superadio III
(http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg...onics&n=172282)
does as well if not better. This is apparently due to the longer AM
antannae in these radios.

The Model One seems to have fairly pedestrian AM reception
(http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=e...N%26tab %3Dwg).

3.) I like to catch NBA & MLB games (and the few late NFL games) on
AM late at night, no matter the station. I'm in the Carolinas, and
can catch 1120 from St. Louis, 880 from NYC, and 1000 from Cleveland
(iirc) in one car with varying results. The reception is pretty noisy
and usually goes in and out. But, depending on weather, I can usually
find something worth listening to in the car. Not so with any other
vehicles or home radios (though, strangely, my Sony Walkman picks up
AM fairly well, but perhaps only b/c it's so easy to move around for
better pickup). Again, I suppose the CCRadio or, more likely, the
Superadio would be the better choice out of the box.

4.) The Model One looks kewl.

5.) I want a fixed-location, indoor radio, so adding antannae isn't
an issue and battery power isn't a big plus.

Any specific recommendations/remarks would be appreciated, but I do
have one pointed question -- it appears a good, external AM antennae
like those at C. Crane (http://www.ccrane.com/am-antenna.aspx) or
perhaps even the kits sold here
(http://www.mtmscientific.com/loop.html or
http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Underground/8585/) turn most any
AM radio into a pretty high-class receiver. Is that true? Would
something like the C Crane antennae or even a Radio Shack loop turn a
Model One into a great AM box? If so, why the upset over, eg, the
Model One's AM reception like the thread quoted at the end of 2.),
above? Is there anything about my desire for AM reception as
described in 2 & 3 that would override my irrational desire for 4,
were I willing to shell out for an AM antennae?

Thanks!

Ruffin Bailey

Ruffin, Grundig's Yacht Boy 400 P.E. is an excellent a.m. dx rig to consider.
Has pleasant audio so you won't suffer aural fatigue over extended listening
periods. Here in Sactown, it gets exemplary night-time reception of San Diego's
sports powerhouses XTRA 690 khz(although Vancouver B.C.'s CBU, with 50 kw from
1100 miles away, will occasionally extend it's co-channel blanket over XTRA's
72 kw signal, which is only 550 miles removed) & Sports XPRS' 1090 khz(Wolfman
Jack's legendary on-air residence). When San Mateo's Ticket 1050 khz cuts power
& changes antenna pattern @ night, that YB 400 does a good battlin'
propogational flutter. Plus you have the added benefit of being able to
off-tune away interference. When listening to Denver's KOA in the evenings,
gotta tune to 849, as 850 gets side splatter from Modesto's KTRB here in
Sactown. Not to mention decent sw & fm reception as an added benefit. If
you're in luck, your local Ratio Shaq should have one hidden in their discount
bin.

"Ruffin Bailey" wrote in message
I'm looking for the best, relatively inexpensive ($150) home radio
for listening to talk radio with the following
considertaions/constraints...

Forget about the Model One, SuperRadio and CCRane.
I have the Boston Acoustics Recepter, SuperRadioII and Sony 7600GR.
I sold sold my CCrane after using the Recepter.
The SuperRadioII sits in my garage.

The FM and AM sensitivity of the Recepter is superb. This radio has been
a sleeper in my opinion. I usually judge a company's products by the
advertisement
factor. The more Ad's the more the company is "trying" to sell inventory.
That
in and of itself is telling you loads about a products desireability.

The Boston Acoustics Recepter has a 75ohm F-connector for coax that
can be used for an external FM antenna. Or simply use the supplied FM
pigtail antenna
that comes supplied in the box.

It also has external AM antenna connections which when used will disconnect
the
internal AM ferrite bar antenna. This is desireable since when hooking up a
loop
antenna (I use the Terk Advantage) you will not have any interaction. Using
the Terk
Advantage loop antenna I am able to hear Carribean AM stations here in the
upper Midwest.
Also, anything my Sony 7600GR can hear so can my Recepter on its internal
ferrite bar antenna.
Using an external loop will allow you to null stations very effectively.
However, the Sony is
better able to handle fading better while locked on in sync mode. The
Recepter's internal AM
ferrite bar antenna is no slouch. It works very well on its own. The only
thing I don't like about
the Recepter is its wide bandwidth filter on the AM band. If there is a
50KW flamethrower
adjacent to your desired station, monkeychatter will be a problem. I
suppose this is intentional
as the Recepter was designed for quality audio response which a narrower
filter would not provide.

Needless to say, the sound quality on the Recepter is second to none. It
wins this
contest hands down - NO Contest!

By the way, Mr Tivoli used to work with Boston Acoustics many years ago.

The Recepter is available from Best Buy which has a generous return policy.
Take one home and give the dial a spin. You won't regret it!

1.) I like to listen to a somewhat difficult to receive FM station
day & night which my home cheapie radios don't pick up well (though
the cars do very well). It would appear for FM you can't do better
than a Model One
(http://www.tivoliaudio.com/product.p...139&cat=&page=)
(one such review: http://wkhr.org/articles.htm). The Boston
Acoustics Recepter is reported to perform as well as the Model One
(CNET says better --

http://reviews.cnet.com/Boston_Acous...866_7-30606594
-2.html?tag=top),
though it's a bit more expensive.

2.) There's a local, fairly low-power (harder to hear at night than
day) AM sports station I like to listen to. In two of our cars I get
decent daytime reception. Nighttime reception is spotty at best.
Cheapie home radios don't pick up the station well at all.

It would appear the CC Radio
(http://www.ccrane.com/ccradio-plus-am-fm-radio.aspx) comes highly
recommended by many, though just as many seem to say the much less
expensive GE Superadio III

(http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg...1091470319/sr=
1-1/ref=sr_1_1_etk-electronics/102-7474735-2432946?v=glance&s=electronics&n=
172282)
does as well if not better. This is apparently due to the longer AM
antannae in these radios.

The Model One seems to have fairly pedestrian AM reception

(http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=e...364344%40news5.
bellatlantic.net&rnum=3&prev=/groups%3Fq%3D%2522superadio%2522%2520%2522mode
l%2520one%2522%2520am%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26sa%3DN%2 6tab%3Dwg).

3.) I like to catch NBA & MLB games (and the few late NFL games) on
AM late at night, no matter the station. I'm in the Carolinas, and
can catch 1120 from St. Louis, 880 from NYC, and 1000 from Cleveland
(iirc) in one car with varying results. The reception is pretty noisy
and usually goes in and out. But, depending on weather, I can usually
find something worth listening to in the car. Not so with any other
vehicles or home radios (though, strangely, my Sony Walkman picks up
AM fairly well, but perhaps only b/c it's so easy to move around for
better pickup). Again, I suppose the CCRadio or, more likely, the
Superadio would be the better choice out of the box.

4.) The Model One looks kewl.

5.) I want a fixed-location, indoor radio, so adding antannae isn't
an issue and battery power isn't a big plus.

Any specific recommendations/remarks would be appreciated, but I do
have one pointed question -- it appears a good, external AM antennae
like those at C. Crane (http://www.ccrane.com/am-antenna.aspx) or
perhaps even the kits sold here
(http://www.mtmscientific.com/loop.html or
http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Underground/8585/) turn most any
AM radio into a pretty high-class receiver. Is that true? Would
something like the C Crane antennae or even a Radio Shack loop turn a
Model One into a great AM box? If so, why the upset over, eg, the
Model One's AM reception like the thread quoted at the end of 2.),
above? Is there anything about my desire for AM reception as
described in 2 & 3 that would override my irrational desire for 4,
were I willing to shell out for an AM antennae?

Thanks!

Ruffin Bailey

In article ,
Ruffin Bailey wrote:
It appears from past posts that AM/FM questions are fair game here; I
apologize in advance to any hard-core SWers.

I'm looking for the best, relatively inexpensive ($150) home radio
for listening to talk radio with the following
considertaions/constraints...

1.) I like to listen to a somewhat difficult to receive FM station
day & night which my home cheapie radios don't pick up well (though
the cars do very well).

So, get a car radio and a 12 volt (13.4 Volt) supply used to run
automotive stuff in the house. (Radio Shack, or for more powerful
one of the Amateur Radio equipment dealers). When I visited a
hospital a few years back, this is what they used for the room
entertainment systems, built into the room's chest of drawers.

Mark Zenier Washington State resident

I have the SuperRadio III-it is fantastic for Am and FM is good also.

It's "Superadio."

Thank you for this opportunity to contribute.

I have the Receptor. I convinced my Mother In Law to get the Model One Tivoli.
They are both good radios. The Receptor can have a little too much false bass
response on talk radio stations. I like the digital tuning and 20 memories
slots on the Receptor along with the alarm clock(s). I like the looks of the
Model One but dislike fumbling around for stations without my glasses. The
model One does a nice job tuned into a NJ 1160 AM big band station she listens
to all the time.

If you have $5 to waste head to a Family Dollar Store or WalMart and look for
the Lennox sport radio, your choice of multiple colors in a blister pack.
The AM performance for $5 and a couple of AA cells will surprise you .

Steve
N2UBP

KVOO (AM radio station) in Tulsa fades in and out night times and
usually I can barely pick it up at all night times and of course I can't
pick it up at all during the day times.That is part of the reason about
six years ago I bought one of those ccrane radios and round
antenna's.When that ccrane radio and the antenna got here it would not
pick up KVOO any better than any of the many other radios I own and I
sent that ccrane radio and that antenna back to ccrane company.I wish I
was rich enough so I could buy myself a Bose wave radio.
cuhulin

How's the antenna do with, say, a $5 cheapie? Is there much
improvement in *reception* (as opposed to sound, which I assume the
CCRadio's better speaker, etc, would improve) over antenna + CCRadio?
Thanks!