Sometimes our like-mindedness is downright eerie.

The reason religion thrives in the USA is because the government is
not involved.

On Fri, 10 Dec 2004 10:06:32 -0500, dxAce wrote:



Larry Ozarow wrote:

dxAce wrote:

Larry Ozarow wrote:


RHF or somebody else posted this screed
in the past. It is a collection of incorrect,
whiny, self-pitying claptrap. Pretending to
stand up for American principles, the author
tells anyone who doesn't share HIS personal
beliefs to leave, which is about as un-American
as you can get. America served as a haven
for dissenters and religious minorities from the
beginning and was founded on determinedly secular
principles, and let's hope it doesn't succumb any
further than it already has to the kind of narrow
sectarian absolutism reflected in this kind of
article.


I can understand what you are saying, however, are we to be a haven for those
who are intent upon destroying our very way of life?

Something to think about at any rate.

dxAce
Michigan
USA


Steve,

I don't think that wishing people "Merry Christmas" rather
than "Season's Greetings," or maintaining the absurd fiction
that somehow the ten commandments are central to our form of
government are important aspects of our way of life. The overwhelming
majority of immigrants, Christian or non-Christian, buy into
all the same things most native-born Americans believe in. They
work, they vote, they send their kids to school, and they pay
taxes.

The OP is clearly offended by the very existence of variant
religious beliefs and cultures. They're not being rammed down
his throat, and there's nothing wrong with people who don't share
his beliefs not wanting them rammed down their throats either.
The overwhelming majority of Americans celebrate Christmas and are
free to continue to do so. It's perfectly all right and well within
the American tradition that people be free to not celebrate it,
and furthermore not pretend to celebrate it. Our "official" culture
can afford to be secular and all-inclusive and still allow and even
encourage all groups to believe what they want.

It's interesting that with all the attacks and threats against
Christianity and Americanism certain people think they see, Americans
are the most religious people in the western world, and of course
almost all of those religious people are Christians.

I personally don't celebrate any of the regular holidays this time of year, but I
have no problem wishing someone a Merry Christmas or a Happy Hannukah, or a Happy
Kwanza. At times if I don't know what one might celebrate I'll wish them Happy
Holidays!

Me? I'm looking forward to going out at the solstice and begging the sun to come
back! But that's just the way it is here.

dxAce
Michigan
USA

http://www.iserv.net/~n8kdv/dxpage.htm

I love you, too. I just hope some day you'll shake whatever demon you
have that makes you so hostile to total strangers.


On Fri, 10 Dec 2004 10:59:10 -0500, dxAce wrote:



David wrote:

Nobody gives a **** if you say Merry Christmas or not, except maybe
Jesus, because he is appalled that his birth is celbrated by a season
of greed and materialism.

Damn, not only do you wake up just plain stupid, 'tard boy... you wake up with
an ATTITUDE too.

LMAO at the 'tard boy!

dxAce
Michigan
USA



On 9 Dec 2004 14:50:55 -0800, "RHF"
wrote:

David wrote:

I love you, too. I just hope some day you'll shake whatever demon you
have that makes you so hostile to total strangers.

Stranger? Hell, you're no stranger to me.

You're a well known 'tard, and I'm always hostile to 'tards.

Not only do you wake up stupid, you get worse as the day gets long.

dxAce
Michigan
USA

dxAce wrote:


I personally don't celebrate any of the regular holidays this time of year, but I
have no problem wishing someone a Merry Christmas or a Happy Hannukah, or a Happy
Kwanza. At times if I don't know what one might celebrate I'll wish them Happy
Holidays!

Me? I'm looking forward to going out at the solstice and begging the sun to come
back! But that's just the way it is here.


No coincidence that these solstice holidays all involve lots
of candles and lighting. People need to be reassured that Sol
is coming back.

Larry Ozarow wrote:

dxAce wrote:


I personally don't celebrate any of the regular holidays this time of year, but I
have no problem wishing someone a Merry Christmas or a Happy Hannukah, or a Happy
Kwanza. At times if I don't know what one might celebrate I'll wish them Happy
Holidays!

Me? I'm looking forward to going out at the solstice and begging the sun to come
back! But that's just the way it is here.


No coincidence that these solstice holidays all involve lots
of candles and lighting. People need to be reassured that Sol
is coming back.

It hasn't failed yet! I'll be out at 7:42 EST (1242 GMT) on the 21st, maybe banging on
a drum. That'll be before actual sunrise here, but the actual time of the solstice.

After that, I'm sure several of us will be enjoying a nice smoked fish for breakfast.

I'm looking forward to it.

dxAce
Michigan
USA