Hello, I've just about given up on trying to understand Shortwave
Bands. Can't find any info on the internet! I can't believe I can't
find this info on the internet!

I'm looking at purchasing a shortwave radio. I've seen radios that
showcase SW1/sw2/sw3/sw4/ etc...

Then I see radios that showcase MW/LW/SW/PS? (poice scanner)? etc...

Ok so are the MW/LW/SW/PS ... the same as SW1/SW2/SW3/ etc.?

In other words if I buy a radio with say 6 or 10 shortwaves does that
mean I can tune in to MW/LW/SW/PS and so forth? I wanna be able to
listen to the marine channels, police scanners, aviation talk, and then
all of the world bands out there. YOu see I cannot even get the
terminology right. I'm having a lot of trouble just trying to learn
this stuff so I can go out and buy the DAMN radio!!!

so in essence I want to listen to all the bands or waves that are
available to me. I wanna see what interests me ... I thought listening
to all these bands were neat. Say can you also listen in to the NASCAR
races on SW radios? I notice you can buy a scanners that does just
that...

Thanks for any light that you can shed on this!

-Jerry

Jerry all about Short wave, radios etc

Get a copy of "Passport To World Band Radio"
http://www.passband.com/


--
Caveat Lector



wrote in message
ups.com...
Hello, I've just about given up on trying to understand Shortwave
Bands. Can't find any info on the internet! I can't believe I can't
find this info on the internet!

I'm looking at purchasing a shortwave radio. I've seen radios that
showcase SW1/sw2/sw3/sw4/ etc...

Then I see radios that showcase MW/LW/SW/PS? (poice scanner)? etc...

Ok so are the MW/LW/SW/PS ... the same as SW1/SW2/SW3/ etc.?

In other words if I buy a radio with say 6 or 10 shortwaves does that
mean I can tune in to MW/LW/SW/PS and so forth? I wanna be able to
listen to the marine channels, police scanners, aviation talk, and then
all of the world bands out there. YOu see I cannot even get the
terminology right. I'm having a lot of trouble just trying to learn
this stuff so I can go out and buy the DAMN radio!!!

so in essence I want to listen to all the bands or waves that are
available to me. I wanna see what interests me ... I thought listening
to all these bands were neat. Say can you also listen in to the NASCAR
races on SW radios? I notice you can buy a scanners that does just
that...

Thanks for any light that you can shed on this!

-Jerry

On 17 Jan 2005 08:23:00 -0800, wrote:

Hello, I've just about given up on trying to understand Shortwave
Bands. Can't find any info on the internet! I can't believe I can't
find this info on the internet!

I'm looking at purchasing a shortwave radio. I've seen radios that
showcase SW1/sw2/sw3/sw4/ etc...

Then I see radios that showcase MW/LW/SW/PS? (poice scanner)? etc...

Ok so are the MW/LW/SW/PS ... the same as SW1/SW2/SW3/ etc.?

In other words if I buy a radio with say 6 or 10 shortwaves does that
mean I can tune in to MW/LW/SW/PS and so forth? I wanna be able to
listen to the marine channels, police scanners, aviation talk, and then
all of the world bands out there. YOu see I cannot even get the
terminology right. I'm having a lot of trouble just trying to learn
this stuff so I can go out and buy the DAMN radio!!!

so in essence I want to listen to all the bands or waves that are
available to me. I wanna see what interests me ... I thought listening
to all these bands were neat. Say can you also listen in to the NASCAR
races on SW radios? I notice you can buy a scanners that does just
that...

Thanks for any light that you can shed on this!

Although I can't help you in the sense you want, a good starter is at
http://home.teleport.com/~nb6z/glossary.htm

MW is medium wave, .3 - 3 mhz, LW is Long wave, 150-300 khz, sw is
short wave, PS I'm not sure on. SW/1 /2/3 / etc is I believe Sony's
'name' for them, but I'm not sure how they translate, i.e. SW1 is MW
or what not.

As to Nascar, I'm sure you could pick up Nascar on a fairly
inexpensive handheld scanner (I believe they're VHF). Now I'm no SW
expert by any means, but the more bands a s/w receiver has, the more
expensive the unit will likely be.

You may be better off buying a short wave receiver, and then a fairly
inexpensive handheld scanner.

Others will I'm sure chime in.

Evan
--
To reply, remove TheObvious from my e-mail address.

wrote:
Hello, I've just about given up on trying to understand Shortwave
Bands. Can't find any info on the internet! I can't believe I can't
find this info on the internet!

I'm looking at purchasing a shortwave radio. I've seen radios that
showcase SW1/sw2/sw3/sw4/ etc...

Then I see radios that showcase MW/LW/SW/PS? (poice scanner)? etc...

Ok so are the MW/LW/SW/PS ... the same as SW1/SW2/SW3/ etc.?

In other words if I buy a radio with say 6 or 10 shortwaves does that
mean I can tune in to MW/LW/SW/PS and so forth? I wanna be able to
listen to the marine channels, police scanners, aviation talk, and then
all of the world bands out there. YOu see I cannot even get the
terminology right. I'm having a lot of trouble just trying to learn
this stuff so I can go out and buy the DAMN radio!!!

so in essence I want to listen to all the bands or waves that are
available to me. I wanna see what interests me ... I thought listening
to all these bands were neat. Say can you also listen in to the NASCAR
races on SW radios? I notice you can buy a scanners that does just
that...

It *is* confusing, isn't it?!

There is only one shortwave band. However, for technical design reasons
many radios split that one band into multiple "slices". For example, I
have a Grundig YB300 which splits shortwave into SW1 (2.3-7.8MHz) and
SW2. (9.1-26.1MHz) Another radio, a "boom box", splits shortwave into
SW1 (2.3-7.0MHz) and SW2. (7-22MHz) Yet another radio covers
1.711-30MHz in a single band.

Kinda like the way older TV sets used to have separate dials for VHF and
UHF, while newer TVs tune all the channels the same way.

It's the outer limits of the MHz values that determine what you can
hear. All three radios can hear a station on 5.965MHz. None of them
could hear a station on 30.5MHz. Only the latter two could hear a
station on 8.2MHz.

As a VERY, VERY general rule any radio that splits SW into multiple
slices is of poorer quality than one that can receive all SW as a single
slice. On the other hand, it is also much less expensive.

MW: Medium Wave. Same thing as regular AM radio.

LW: Long Wave. In North America, you may find low-powered air
navigation beacons here. (in Europe, there are AM broadcast stations on
LW. Under exceptional conditions you might hear them on the
U.S./Canadian East Coast.)

PS: Public Service. Police, fire, etc.. Most radios that cover both
shortwave and public service perform REALLY, REALLY BADLY on the public
service band. You'll probably be able to hear the Weather Service near
162.5MHz but not much else unless you live next door to a police station.

NASCAR on scanners: What they're doing is tuning in to the two-way
radios the drivers use to talk to their pit crews. These communications
are VERY short-distance. You have to actually be at the track to hear
them. In theory a radio with the PS band could hear these transmissions
but I don't think performance will be very good, and you'll still have
to be at the track.
--
Doug Smith W9WI
Pleasant View (Nashville), TN EM66
http://www.w9wi.com

JM,
..
Take-a-Look at this "SHORTWAVE 101" Link - by ETON Corp.
http://www.21st-century-goods.com/ShortWaveGuide.pdf
http://www.grundigradio.com/US/suppo...1.aspx?index=4
http://www.danielatkinson.co.uk/%7Emedia/swfaq.htm
http://www.radios4you.com/shortwave-listening.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shortwave
..
Shortwave Radio - Learning The Basics - by RadioShack.Com
http://support.radioshack.com/suppor...oc66/66356.htm
..
Shortwave Radio Links - by RadioIntel.Com
http://www.radiointel.com/press.htm
..
An Introduction to Shortwave Listening - by the ODXC
http://www.odxa.on.ca/beginnersguide/swintro.html
..
Shortwave Listening - by the Australian Radio Resource Page
http://www.alphalink.com.au/~parkerp/shortwave.htm
..
Introduction to DXing - by Mika Makelainen {DXing.Info}
http://dxing.info/introduction.dx
- - - FYI - Picture of Mika Makelainen
..
Glossary and Abbreviations for Radio and Shortwave
DXING INFO = http://dxing.info/glossary.dx
..
Shortwave Radio Information for Beginners - by Lou Castino
http://www.castino.com/radio.htm
..
FAQ'S About Shortwave Radio - by the NASB
http://www.shortwave.org/faq.htm
..
DXing.Com Shortwave Tips
http://www.dxing.com/tips.htm
..
..
SHORTWAVE RADIOS & RECEVERS :
Shortwave Listening: Equipment - by the Radio Enthiusiast
http://www.radioenthusiast.com/sw_equip.htm
..
Simply look for a 'portable' AM/FM Shortwave Radio
that has full coverage from 100 kHz to 30 MHz.
SEE = http://www.universal-radio.com/catalog/portable.html
- Grundig Yacht Boy 400 PE / Porsche G4000A
- Sangean ATS-909 / RadioShack DX-398
* Sony ICF-SW7600GR
- Degen / Kaito 1101, 1102 or 1103
..
Or a Table Top "World Band" Radio that has
full coverage from 100 kHz to 30 MHz.
- Drake R8B
* Grundig Satellit 800 Millennium
- Icom IC-R75
- Japan Radio Co. NRD-545 DSP
- Ten-Tec RX-350D
- Palstar R30
- Yaesu FRG-100B
..
If you are interest in buying a used 'older'
Shortwave Radio then Check-Out the
"Modern Shortwave Receiver Survey"
http://www.dxing.com/rx/rxindex.htm
- Drake SW8
- JRC NRD-525
* Kenwood R-5000
- Panasonic RF-2600 or RF-2200
* Sony ICF-2010
- Yaesu FRG-7700 or FRG-8800
..
* NOTE - These would be my choices.
..
What You Need {Radios/Receivers} to Hear Shortwave Stations
http://www.odxa.on.ca/beginnersguide/swhear.html
- - - Which Radio / Receiver to Buy ?
- - - What About Antennas ?
..
..
THE SHORTWAVE BANDS :
The Basic LW, AM/MW Shortwave and FM Bands :
* Long Wave (LW) = 100 kHz to 530 kHz
* AM/MW (Medium Wave) = 530 kHz to 1700 kHz
* Shortwave Bands (High Frequency) = 1800 kHz to 30 MHz+
http://www.odxa.on.ca/beginnersguide/swwhen.html
http://www.radios4you.com/shortwave-listening.html
http://www.totse.com/en/media/radio_...s/swbands.html

- - 120 Meter Band = 2300 - 2500
- - 90 Meter Band = 3200 - 3400
- - 75 Meter Band = 3900 - 4000
- - 60 Meter Band = 4750 - 5060
- - 49 Meter Band = 5730 - 6205
- - 41 Meter Band = 7100 - 7595
- - 31 Meter Band = 9350 - 10000
- - 25 Meter Band = 11550 - 12160
- - 22 Meter Band = 13570 - 13870
- - 19 Meter Band = 15000 - 15710
- - 16 Meter Band = 17500 - 17900
- - 13 Meter Band = 21450 - 21850
- - 11 Meter Band = 25600 - 26100
* FM Radio Band = 87 MHz to 108 MHz
..
..
iane ~ RHF
..
All are WELCOME and "Invited to Join" the
Shortwave Listener (SWL) eGroup on YAHOO !
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Shortwave-SWL-Antenna/
..
Some Say: On A Clear Day You Can See Forever.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Shortw...na/message/502
..
I BELIEVE: On A Clear Night . . .
You Can Hear Forever and Beyond, The BEYOND !
With a Shortwave Listener SWL Antenna of your own making.
"If You Build It {SWL Antenna} You Will Hear Them !"

wrote:

Hello, I've just about given up on trying to understand Shortwave
Bands. Can't find any info on the internet! I can't believe I can't
find this info on the internet!

I'm looking at purchasing a shortwave radio. I've seen radios that
showcase SW1/sw2/sw3/sw4/ etc...

Then I see radios that showcase MW/LW/SW/PS? (poice scanner)? etc...

Ok so are the MW/LW/SW/PS ... the same as SW1/SW2/SW3/ etc.?

In other words if I buy a radio with say 6 or 10 shortwaves does that
mean I can tune in to MW/LW/SW/PS and so forth? I wanna be able to
listen to the marine channels, police scanners, aviation talk, and then
all of the world bands out there. YOu see I cannot even get the
terminology right. I'm having a lot of trouble just trying to learn
this stuff so I can go out and buy the DAMN radio!!!

so in essence I want to listen to all the bands or waves that are
available to me. I wanna see what interests me ... I thought listening
to all these bands were neat. Say can you also listen in to the NASCAR
races on SW radios? I notice you can buy a scanners that does just
that...

Thanks for any light that you can shed on this!

-Jerry


You will not pick up the aviation bands on shortwave (except for Gander)
You will also not pick up police, public service and that sort of thing.
You need a scanner for that.
Look for a radio that receives from about 2 mHz to 29mHz continuous.
That'll get you your shortwave. Get one that receives SSB (single side
band).

Then get a scanner for the aviation, police stuff.

That is, unless you get a scanner similar to my Yupiteru 5100 or
whatever it is. That picks up everything in the known universe.

Read the suggested material. It'll answer a lot of your questions.

Or, do a google search of this group for best radio and variations of
that and just get one of those.

My new Degen 1103 is a winner. So is my Yupiteru MVT 5100(?).
I guess I'll have to look at it.

WOW Thanks for a great list

--
Caveat Lector



"RHF" wrote in message
oups.com...
JM,
.
Take-a-Look at this "SHORTWAVE 101" Link - by ETON Corp.
http://www.21st-century-goods.com/ShortWaveGuide.pdf
http://www.grundigradio.com/US/suppo...1.aspx?index=4
http://www.danielatkinson.co.uk/%7Emedia/swfaq.htm
http://www.radios4you.com/shortwave-listening.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shortwave
.
Shortwave Radio - Learning The Basics - by RadioShack.Com
http://support.radioshack.com/suppor...oc66/66356.htm
.
Shortwave Radio Links - by RadioIntel.Com
http://www.radiointel.com/press.htm
.
An Introduction to Shortwave Listening - by the ODXC
http://www.odxa.on.ca/beginnersguide/swintro.html
.
Shortwave Listening - by the Australian Radio Resource Page
http://www.alphalink.com.au/~parkerp/shortwave.htm
.
Introduction to DXing - by Mika Makelainen {DXing.Info}
http://dxing.info/introduction.dx
- - - FYI - Picture of Mika Makelainen
.
Glossary and Abbreviations for Radio and Shortwave
DXING INFO = http://dxing.info/glossary.dx
.
Shortwave Radio Information for Beginners - by Lou Castino
http://www.castino.com/radio.htm
.
FAQ'S About Shortwave Radio - by the NASB
http://www.shortwave.org/faq.htm
.
DXing.Com Shortwave Tips
http://www.dxing.com/tips.htm
.
.
SHORTWAVE RADIOS & RECEVERS :
Shortwave Listening: Equipment - by the Radio Enthiusiast
http://www.radioenthusiast.com/sw_equip.htm
.
Simply look for a 'portable' AM/FM Shortwave Radio
that has full coverage from 100 kHz to 30 MHz.
SEE = http://www.universal-radio.com/catalog/portable.html
- Grundig Yacht Boy 400 PE / Porsche G4000A
- Sangean ATS-909 / RadioShack DX-398
* Sony ICF-SW7600GR
- Degen / Kaito 1101, 1102 or 1103
.
Or a Table Top "World Band" Radio that has
full coverage from 100 kHz to 30 MHz.
- Drake R8B
* Grundig Satellit 800 Millennium
- Icom IC-R75
- Japan Radio Co. NRD-545 DSP
- Ten-Tec RX-350D
- Palstar R30
- Yaesu FRG-100B
.
If you are interest in buying a used 'older'
Shortwave Radio then Check-Out the
"Modern Shortwave Receiver Survey"
http://www.dxing.com/rx/rxindex.htm
- Drake SW8
- JRC NRD-525
* Kenwood R-5000
- Panasonic RF-2600 or RF-2200
* Sony ICF-2010
- Yaesu FRG-7700 or FRG-8800
.
* NOTE - These would be my choices.
.
What You Need {Radios/Receivers} to Hear Shortwave Stations
http://www.odxa.on.ca/beginnersguide/swhear.html
- - - Which Radio / Receiver to Buy ?
- - - What About Antennas ?
.
.
THE SHORTWAVE BANDS :
The Basic LW, AM/MW Shortwave and FM Bands :
* Long Wave (LW) = 100 kHz to 530 kHz
* AM/MW (Medium Wave) = 530 kHz to 1700 kHz
* Shortwave Bands (High Frequency) = 1800 kHz to 30 MHz+
http://www.odxa.on.ca/beginnersguide/swwhen.html
http://www.radios4you.com/shortwave-listening.html
http://www.totse.com/en/media/radio_...s/swbands.html

- - 120 Meter Band = 2300 - 2500
- - 90 Meter Band = 3200 - 3400
- - 75 Meter Band = 3900 - 4000
- - 60 Meter Band = 4750 - 5060
- - 49 Meter Band = 5730 - 6205
- - 41 Meter Band = 7100 - 7595
- - 31 Meter Band = 9350 - 10000
- - 25 Meter Band = 11550 - 12160
- - 22 Meter Band = 13570 - 13870
- - 19 Meter Band = 15000 - 15710
- - 16 Meter Band = 17500 - 17900
- - 13 Meter Band = 21450 - 21850
- - 11 Meter Band = 25600 - 26100
* FM Radio Band = 87 MHz to 108 MHz
.
.
iane ~ RHF
.
All are WELCOME and "Invited to Join" the
Shortwave Listener (SWL) eGroup on YAHOO !
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Shortwave-SWL-Antenna/
.
Some Say: On A Clear Day You Can See Forever.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Shortw...na/message/502
.
I BELIEVE: On A Clear Night . . .
You Can Hear Forever and Beyond, The BEYOND !
With a Shortwave Listener SWL Antenna of your own making.
"If You Build It {SWL Antenna} You Will Hear Them !"
.
.

Thanks a *lot* for all the info. I am finally making some sense out of
all this! Much more now then when I didn't even post anything here to
begin with. But this is a lot to digest... but thanks to you guys I got
a lot of resources here that I can chew on - finally!

You see I was wondering if I could buy an "all wonder" radio that could
pretty much get all the different types of bands out there. You see
that is what I thought 8 band or 10 band SW radios were all about -
that each SW band was related to MW/LW/PS and so forth, but I guess
not. Well I could get an "all wonder" radio but it would cost me a
pretty penny. So what I am going to do for now is either buy a
inexpensive "GE Superadio III" or C. Crane for good AM reception. And
I'll just buy a descent little SW radio to test the waters and see what
I like and don't like.

I found a SW radio here in town by the brand name "AirCastle". Fairly
old radio and the reception isn't all that great but I get: SW bands,
aviation, police, public scanners, and so forth - A little this and a
little that. It's an old radio but descent reception for a beginner.
After I wear it out then I get something significant.
Thanks again.

-Jer

It seems you are looking at cheap Chinese made, analog tuned receivers.
You will be severely disappointed in their performance and will quickly tire
of short-wave radio.
Get a digital tuned radio such as the Sony ICF-SW7600GR. It is very easy to
operate and
is a stellar performer in its class.

wrote in message
ups.com...
Hello, I've just about given up on trying to understand Shortwave
Bands. Can't find any info on the internet! I can't believe I can't
find this info on the internet!

I'm looking at purchasing a shortwave radio. I've seen radios that
showcase SW1/sw2/sw3/sw4/ etc...

Then I see radios that showcase MW/LW/SW/PS? (poice scanner)? etc...

Ok so are the MW/LW/SW/PS ... the same as SW1/SW2/SW3/ etc.?

In other words if I buy a radio with say 6 or 10 shortwaves does that
mean I can tune in to MW/LW/SW/PS and so forth? I wanna be able to
listen to the marine channels, police scanners, aviation talk, and then
all of the world bands out there. YOu see I cannot even get the
terminology right. I'm having a lot of trouble just trying to learn
this stuff so I can go out and buy the DAMN radio!!!

so in essence I want to listen to all the bands or waves that are
available to me. I wanna see what interests me ... I thought listening
to all these bands were neat. Say can you also listen in to the NASCAR
races on SW radios? I notice you can buy a scanners that does just
that...

Thanks for any light that you can shed on this!

-Jerry

$200.00 will put you in business. Heartlandamerica.com, get the YB400PE
Grundig. Put the next hundred down on a Bearcat/Uniden BC80XLT. You'll
be cooking with fire. Darren





http://community-2.webtv.net/DEMEM/L...mes/page2.html