BDK wrote:

The bible is not proof Al! A book can say anything.

True, a book can say anything and some of them say practically nothing.
But let's consider the Bible for a bit.

It was written over a period of about 1600 years by about 40 different
authors.

It has changed the lives of more people than all the other books in the
world - combined!

Much more could be said here, but I'll conclude with this. Look for the
new message called "A Tribute to the Bible". No, I did not write it.
It was copyrighted in 1963. YEP, you King James Only folks, it's the
King James Version - - and it's COPYRIGHTED!!!! This was one of Gail
Riplinger's arguments against the NEW versions. They were written so
men could make money on them. Like SHE wasn't making money on her
book(s). ...Like THEY were not copyrighted. Copyrights are to protect
the author so they CAN make money on it. Anyway, so much for that also.

I did not write this "tribute" but rather found it in a Dake Bible which
is KJV and was copyrighted in 1963. I don't know if it originated with
him, existed long before him, or if he modified someone else's work.
Point is - I will post it, but won't even pretend to "own" it. :-)

Honus wrote:
My god. I read that post without first seeing who sent it, and thought
cuhulin had finally gotten himself a spell-checker.

You should see ALL my messages before I spell-check them! Sometimes I
misspell Al and I've known him for many decades! ;-) Sometimes I
misspell them so badly the spell checker won't even hint at what I
thought I meant -- just indicate it's wrong. Then I have to go to
Webster's dictionary, a book of synonyms or even a thesaurus and find
another word!

Honus wrote:

"Al Patrick" wrote in message
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Go to http://groups-beta.google.com/grphp?hl=en&tab=wg&q= and do a
search of this news group. Look for the words xian and g-d and you'll
turn up a few of them.


No. Name one. I'm not interested in seeing who uses the spelling xian or
g-d. I'm not interested in wading through all of the posts that have one of
those words in them, either, in search of someone saying that they look on
the death of any Christian with glee. I'm interested in hearing -you- name
someone in this group who "would rejoice at the thoughts of the death of any
true Christian." Surely you must have had someone in mind? Or a more
specific post to cite?

You want someone else to do ALL your work for you? Besides that, just
because I know something doesn't mean I have to tell YOU! . . . . and
just because you DEMAND it! ;-)

In article ,
says...

"BDK" wrote in message
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In article ,
says...
By now all of you know that Dr. Gene Scott has passed, but guess what?
All of US are going to pass away also. It is appointed unto man once to
die AND AFTER THAT THE JUDGMENT! Heb. 9:27

The righteous are REQUIRED to tell the wicked they are going to die.
Eze. 3:18

The Christian is better off dead because he is with Christ and no longer
concerned about possibly failing and denying Christ here on earth.
Phillipians 1:23.


So you claim..proof.

The bible is not proof Al! A book can say anything.


The non-Christian needs to be greatly concerned about dying before
accepting Christ for there is NO OTHER WAY to the Father in heaven.
John 14:6, KJV, "Jesus saith unto him, I am THE way, THE truth, and THE
life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me."

So you claim, I'm not really worried, I'll just be worm food, like you.
You probably aren't going anywhere...except into the ground.


Some of you rejoice at the death of Dr. Gene Scott. Many Christians
rejoice with you for, if he was truly a Christian (only God knows the
heart), he is far better off than he ever was here. ... Even before he
got prostate cancer. See Phil. 1:23.


I thought he was amusing. Most all the other preachers are slimeballs at
best, so I'm not rejoicing he's dead, but I don't think there's any
reason to be happy about it...and prostate cancer can be a bad way to
go...

Right here I could interject the same word you used above. Proof. How do you
know its a bad way to go? You gone that way? No. You know someone who has?
Maybe yes. The same could be said for Dr. Scott. If you ever knew any
Christians, you would see their serenity in their leaving this world. Ask
the doctors. They can tell you that Christians on the whole have more of a
grip on death than those who dont know God. They can tell you the horror on
the faces of those who die not knowing what will happen to them after they
are gone. So throwing that word "proof" around shouldnt make you feel as
smug as you think you are.
B




Smug?? No, just realistic.


I knew two people that had prostate cancer, one is still alive, having
had to be castrated, and then radiated and chemoed to the point he
almost died from it alone. But somehow, he made it. Tough guy.

The other guy had no signs of any problems, then started having pain
when standing up. He was loaded with cancer that had spread to his
spine. The cancer was so widespread they didn't even try to do chemo, he
was too far gone. He spent his last 3 weeks or so in bed, hooked to a
morphine drip that never put out enough to really stop the pain. He was
a christian, and he wasn't "serene" in the least. Maybe he had doubts..

Other christians may be more serene, but the placebo effect can account
for that. If you believe in something strong enough, it can do
"wonders".

But the most "serene" person I ever saw that was dying was a friend's
dad, who was an atheist from a young age, like myself. He was ok with
it, "Hey, 80 isn't that bad, longer than I ever expected!" He just kind
of faded away. Boy, would he have been ****ed if he knew his sisters got
together and had a minister do a memorial service before the "real" one.
The after funeral "wake" was about as tense as I have ever seen, one of
the sister's kids blabbed the whole deal as the real service ended. It
was entertaining.

BDK

"Brian Oakley" wrote in message
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"Honus" wrote in message
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"Al Patrick" wrote in message
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I do know that a few on this group would rejoice at the
thoughts of the death of any true Christian.

Name one.

Dont really need to. They are there. They know who they are. They are of
age. Ask them.

I wasn't talking to you, unless you're one of Al Patrick's sock-puppets.

"Al Patrick" wrote in message
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Honus wrote:

"Al Patrick" wrote in message
...

Go to http://groups-beta.google.com/grphp?hl=en&tab=wg&q= and do a
search of this news group. Look for the words xian and g-d and you'll
turn up a few of them.


No. Name one. I'm not interested in seeing who uses the spelling xian or
g-d. I'm not interested in wading through all of the posts that have one
of
those words in them, either, in search of someone saying that they look
on
the death of any Christian with glee. I'm interested in hearing -you-
name
someone in this group who "would rejoice at the thoughts of the death of
any
true Christian." Surely you must have had someone in mind? Or a more
specific post to cite?

You want someone else to do ALL your work for you? Besides that, just
because I know something doesn't mean I have to tell YOU! . . . . and
just because you DEMAND it! ;-)

You realize, don't you, that you could have written a name in a fraction of
the time and with a fraction of the effort that it took for you to
demonstrate your inability to support your claims? But of course, that's
redundant. You can't write a name because you can't support your claim.

Besides, I didn't ask for you to do my homework; I asked for -you- to
support -your- allegation. I asked if you had a name in mind. I asked if you
had a specific post that you could cite to bolster your claim.

Your failure is duly noted.

And certainly not unexpected.

In article ,
says...
running dogg wrote:

My grandfather died of prostate cancer, and he suffered greatly before
he died. I don't think that there's much a person can do to justify that
sort of suffering being put upon them.

Some people would rather die trusting God than to live a bit longer
trusting in Doc - or Festus -- or Matt Dillon! ;-)

Do you know where the Medical Deists (MD's) got their symbol? I'll give
you a hint. Numbers 21 and II Kings 18 and it represented Jesus Christ
the healer, who also suffered and died for us. It seems to me the
medical industry is very much attempting to play God.

In an accident they're mighty good folks to have around. But when it
comes to the drugging of America, and the rest of the world, I expect
we'd all be better off living right, eating right, and using herbs which
are God made than using man made drugs. But then that's like elbows --
everyone has two! :-)


Wow, I'm shocked Al! A post that isn't off the wall, jew hatin BS! The
only thing about the herbal stuff is that some of them are not what the
"health" industry tries to say they are. A lot of them are poisonous, or
have the same negatives a lot of drugs have, without any regulation.

But god made them, just like botulism, right?

BDK

"Al Patrick" wrote in message
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Honus wrote:
My god. I read that post without first seeing who sent it, and thought
cuhulin had finally gotten himself a spell-checker.

You should see ALL my messages before I spell-check them!

Ha! You should see the messages that I decide not to send.

In a message under the heading of " The passing of Dr. Scott & r.r.s.
merrymaking" BDK wrote:

But god made them, just like botulism, right?

Check this out:

Yes, I know it isn't botulism. (There I go changing the subject again!)
It's Trichinosis I'm mentioning here. However, there's something very
interesting about it. ALL the animals mentioned happen to be animals
that God told us NOT TO EAT. (See God's dietary laws in the Bible, also
known as clean and unclean meats. I believe the bear is in the UNclean
category.)

"Trichinosis is a parasitic disease that results from eating undercooked
meat, most frequently pork, which contains cysts of Trichinella
spiralis. T. spiralis can be found in pork, bear, fox, rat, horse and
lion meat."

Clipped from: http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/e...cle/000631.htm

"Honus" wrote in message
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"Brian Oakley" wrote in message
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"Honus" wrote in message
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"Al Patrick" wrote in message
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I do know that a few on this group would rejoice at the
thoughts of the death of any true Christian.

Name one.

Dont really need to. They are there. They know who they are. They are of
age. Ask them.

I wasn't talking to you, unless you're one of Al Patrick's sock-puppets.

Gosh, guess only one person can reply to an atheists post but atheists can
crosspost to every anti-Christian ng on the web and its ok? Guess you got an
answer to your question though didn't you?
B