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By now all of you know that Dr. Gene Scott has passed, but guess
what?
All of US are going to pass away also. It is appointed unto man
once to
die AND AFTER THAT THE JUDGMENT! Heb. 9:27

The righteous are REQUIRED to tell the wicked they are going to die.
Eze. 3:18

The Christian is better off dead because he is with Christ and no
longer
concerned about possibly failing and denying Christ here on earth.
Phillipians 1:23.


So you claim..proof.

The bible is not proof Al! A book can say anything.


The non-Christian needs to be greatly concerned about dying before
accepting Christ for there is NO OTHER WAY to the Father in heaven.
John 14:6, KJV, "Jesus saith unto him, I am THE way, THE truth, and
THE
life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me."

So you claim, I'm not really worried, I'll just be worm food, like
you.
You probably aren't going anywhere...except into the ground.


Some of you rejoice at the death of Dr. Gene Scott. Many Christians
rejoice with you for, if he was truly a Christian (only God knows
the
heart), he is far better off than he ever was here. ... Even before
he
got prostate cancer. See Phil. 1:23.


I thought he was amusing. Most all the other preachers are slimeballs
at
best, so I'm not rejoicing he's dead, but I don't think there's any
reason to be happy about it...and prostate cancer can be a bad way to
go...

Right here I could interject the same word you used above. Proof. How do
you
know its a bad way to go? You gone that way? No. You know someone who
has?
Maybe yes. The same could be said for Dr. Scott. If you ever knew any
Christians, you would see their serenity in their leaving this world.
Ask
the doctors. They can tell you that Christians on the whole have more
of a
grip on death than those who dont know God. They can tell you the horror
on
the faces of those who die not knowing what will happen to them after
they
are gone. So throwing that word "proof" around shouldnt make you feel
as
smug as you think you are.
B




Smug?? No, just realistic.


I knew two people that had prostate cancer, one is still alive, having
had to be castrated, and then radiated and chemoed to the point he
almost died from it alone. But somehow, he made it. Tough guy.

The other guy had no signs of any problems, then started having pain
when standing up. He was loaded with cancer that had spread to his
spine. The cancer was so widespread they didn't even try to do chemo, he
was too far gone. He spent his last 3 weeks or so in bed, hooked to a
morphine drip that never put out enough to really stop the pain. He was
a christian, and he wasn't "serene" in the least. Maybe he had doubts..

Other christians may be more serene, but the placebo effect can account
for that. If you believe in something strong enough, it can do
"wonders".

But the most "serene" person I ever saw that was dying was a friend's
dad, who was an atheist from a young age, like myself. He was ok with
it, "Hey, 80 isn't that bad, longer than I ever expected!" He just kind
of faded away. Boy, would he have been ****ed if he knew his sisters got
together and had a minister do a memorial service before the "real" one.
The after funeral "wake" was about as tense as I have ever seen, one of
the sister's kids blabbed the whole deal as the real service ended. It
was entertaining.

BDK

To dismiss changed lives as a result of the teachings of the Bible is
smugness. You don't know most peoples testimonies. And it is their
testimony. You cant deny it. You don't have to believe it, but that doesn't
make you right. After all, they are the ones claiming a changed live. If
you don't believe it, fine, go your way, but you don't need to be putting
them down. You don't have the authority to speak for them.
B





Neither do you....

BDK

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By now all of you know that Dr. Gene Scott has passed, but guess
what?
All of US are going to pass away also. It is appointed unto man
once to
die AND AFTER THAT THE JUDGMENT! Heb. 9:27

The righteous are REQUIRED to tell the wicked they are going to
die.
Eze. 3:18

The Christian is better off dead because he is with Christ and
no
longer
concerned about possibly failing and denying Christ here on
earth.
Phillipians 1:23.


So you claim..proof.

The bible is not proof Al! A book can say anything.


The non-Christian needs to be greatly concerned about dying
before
accepting Christ for there is NO OTHER WAY to the Father in
heaven.
John 14:6, KJV, "Jesus saith unto him, I am THE way, THE truth,
and
THE
life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me."

So you claim, I'm not really worried, I'll just be worm food, like
you.
You probably aren't going anywhere...except into the ground.


Some of you rejoice at the death of Dr. Gene Scott. Many
Christians
rejoice with you for, if he was truly a Christian (only God
knows
the
heart), he is far better off than he ever was here. ... Even
before
he
got prostate cancer. See Phil. 1:23.


I thought he was amusing. Most all the other preachers are
slimeballs
at
best, so I'm not rejoicing he's dead, but I don't think there's
any
reason to be happy about it...and prostate cancer can be a bad way
to
go...

Right here I could interject the same word you used above. Proof.
How do
you
know its a bad way to go? You gone that way? No. You know someone
who
has?
Maybe yes. The same could be said for Dr. Scott. If you ever knew
any
Christians, you would see their serenity in their leaving this
world.
Ask
the doctors. They can tell you that Christians on the whole have
more
of a
grip on death than those who dont know God. They can tell you the
horror
on
the faces of those who die not knowing what will happen to them
after
they
are gone. So throwing that word "proof" around shouldnt make you
feel
as
smug as you think you are.
B




Smug?? No, just realistic.


I knew two people that had prostate cancer, one is still alive, having
had to be castrated, and then radiated and chemoed to the point he
almost died from it alone. But somehow, he made it. Tough guy.

The other guy had no signs of any problems, then started having pain
when standing up. He was loaded with cancer that had spread to his
spine. The cancer was so widespread they didn't even try to do chemo,
he
was too far gone. He spent his last 3 weeks or so in bed, hooked to a
morphine drip that never put out enough to really stop the pain. He
was
a christian, and he wasn't "serene" in the least. Maybe he had
doubts..

Other christians may be more serene, but the placebo effect can
account
for that. If you believe in something strong enough, it can do
"wonders".

But the most "serene" person I ever saw that was dying was a friend's
dad, who was an atheist from a young age, like myself. He was ok with
it, "Hey, 80 isn't that bad, longer than I ever expected!" He just
kind
of faded away. Boy, would he have been ****ed if he knew his sisters
got
together and had a minister do a memorial service before the "real"
one.
The after funeral "wake" was about as tense as I have ever seen, one
of
the sister's kids blabbed the whole deal as the real service ended. It
was entertaining.

BDK

To dismiss changed lives as a result of the teachings of the Bible is
smugness. You don't know most peoples testimonies. And it is their
testimony. You cant deny it. You don't have to believe it, but that
doesn't
make you right. After all, they are the ones claiming a changed live.
If
you don't believe it, fine, go your way, but you don't need to be
putting
them down. You don't have the authority to speak for them.
B





Neither do you....

BDK

Actually I do.
B

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says...

"BDK" wrote in message
...
In article ,
says...

"BDK" wrote in message
...
In article ,
says...

"BDK" wrote in message
...
In article ,

says...
By now all of you know that Dr. Gene Scott has passed, but guess
what?
All of US are going to pass away also. It is appointed unto man
once to
die AND AFTER THAT THE JUDGMENT! Heb. 9:27

The righteous are REQUIRED to tell the wicked they are going to
die.
Eze. 3:18

The Christian is better off dead because he is with Christ and
no
longer
concerned about possibly failing and denying Christ here on
earth.
Phillipians 1:23.


So you claim..proof.

The bible is not proof Al! A book can say anything.


The non-Christian needs to be greatly concerned about dying
before
accepting Christ for there is NO OTHER WAY to the Father in
heaven.
John 14:6, KJV, "Jesus saith unto him, I am THE way, THE truth,
and
THE
life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me."

So you claim, I'm not really worried, I'll just be worm food, like
you.
You probably aren't going anywhere...except into the ground.


Some of you rejoice at the death of Dr. Gene Scott. Many
Christians
rejoice with you for, if he was truly a Christian (only God
knows
the
heart), he is far better off than he ever was here. ... Even
before
he
got prostate cancer. See Phil. 1:23.


I thought he was amusing. Most all the other preachers are
slimeballs
at
best, so I'm not rejoicing he's dead, but I don't think there's
any
reason to be happy about it...and prostate cancer can be a bad way
to
go...

Right here I could interject the same word you used above. Proof.
How do
you
know its a bad way to go? You gone that way? No. You know someone
who
has?
Maybe yes. The same could be said for Dr. Scott. If you ever knew
any
Christians, you would see their serenity in their leaving this
world.
Ask
the doctors. They can tell you that Christians on the whole have
more
of a
grip on death than those who dont know God. They can tell you the
horror
on
the faces of those who die not knowing what will happen to them
after
they
are gone. So throwing that word "proof" around shouldnt make you
feel
as
smug as you think you are.
B




Smug?? No, just realistic.


I knew two people that had prostate cancer, one is still alive, having
had to be castrated, and then radiated and chemoed to the point he
almost died from it alone. But somehow, he made it. Tough guy.

The other guy had no signs of any problems, then started having pain
when standing up. He was loaded with cancer that had spread to his
spine. The cancer was so widespread they didn't even try to do chemo,
he
was too far gone. He spent his last 3 weeks or so in bed, hooked to a
morphine drip that never put out enough to really stop the pain. He
was
a christian, and he wasn't "serene" in the least. Maybe he had
doubts..

Other christians may be more serene, but the placebo effect can
account
for that. If you believe in something strong enough, it can do
"wonders".

But the most "serene" person I ever saw that was dying was a friend's
dad, who was an atheist from a young age, like myself. He was ok with
it, "Hey, 80 isn't that bad, longer than I ever expected!" He just
kind
of faded away. Boy, would he have been ****ed if he knew his sisters
got
together and had a minister do a memorial service before the "real"
one.
The after funeral "wake" was about as tense as I have ever seen, one
of
the sister's kids blabbed the whole deal as the real service ended. It
was entertaining.

BDK

To dismiss changed lives as a result of the teachings of the Bible is
smugness. You don't know most peoples testimonies. And it is their
testimony. You cant deny it. You don't have to believe it, but that
doesn't
make you right. After all, they are the ones claiming a changed live.
If
you don't believe it, fine, go your way, but you don't need to be
putting
them down. You don't have the authority to speak for them.
B





Neither do you....

BDK

Actually I do.
B




No, you don't. You hope, pray, desire that you do, but like everything
religious, there's no real certainty. That's a fact. People claim all
kinds of things. You don't know what anyone is really thinking.

BDK

Let the auld bastid croak already.He can't,his better half has done
resurected his ass in her own image.Dig the auld fart up and bury his
ass again.
cuhulin

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The original of this never showed up on my server, so I'm piggy-backing.

I thought he was amusing. Most all the other preachers are
slimeballs
at
best, so I'm not rejoicing he's dead, but I don't think there's
any
reason to be happy about it...and prostate cancer can be a bad way
to
go...

Right here I could interject the same word you used above. Proof.
How do
you
know its a bad way to go? You gone that way? No.

Holy crap, you're weak! And you tell me to go to debating school?! Mind
boggling. I guess that since the Bible doesn't say that it's a bad way to
go, you don't feel comfortable in taking someone elses word for it.

Maybe yes. The same could be said for Dr. Scott. If you ever knew
any
Christians, you would see their serenity in their leaving this
world.

I've seen -plenty- of Christians die, and this is true. Most of them and
their families do take it quite well, considering. But who wouldn't, if they
really believed what they profess? It's not an impressive thing. The
impressive ones are the people who face it with grace and dignity believing
that the end is the end. How you can sit there and brag about Christians
dying with serenity when they don't believe they're really dying in the
first place is beyond me. Almost. I hereby predict a semantic argument from
you.


Ask
the doctors. They can tell you that Christians on the whole have
more
of a
grip on death than those who dont know God.

Nonsense. I looked it up. You're wrong. Now you go look it up too. When you
don't. or can't, come back and I'll show you the difference between the two
of us; I'll actually point out where you're wrong.

They can tell you the horror
on
the faces of those who die not knowing what will happen to them
after
they
are gone.

I am SO glad that I'm sitting down to read all of this. Falling out of ones
chair is so much safer when you're closer to the ground.