Casio makes a variety of digital watches that have world time. GMT
time is within the world time. The watch allows you to setup the
display with dual time i.e. local and GMT time. Works great.

The watch also has the ability to store names and phone numbers as well
as setting apointments. Cost in the $30-60 range depending on added
features.

Malomarski,

On 31 Mar 2005 21:39:36 -0800, "
wrote:

Casio makes a variety of digital watches that have world time. GMT
time is within the world time. The watch allows you to setup the
display with dual time i.e. local and GMT time. Works great.

The watch also has the ability to store names and phone numbers as well
as setting apointments. Cost in the $30-60 range depending on added
features.

This one is WWVB calibrated and Solar Powered. $75

http://cantrell.typepad.com/photos/w..._gw_300_2.html

On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 20:05:22 -0500, malomarski
wrote:

Hey all,

I'm looking for a wris****ch that is capable of giving me both my local
time and UTC or GMT time. I've been googling the subject a little but I
am not finding too many.

I'm wondering if any of you use a watch with GMT time and if so what do
you (or don't you) recommend.

I generally don't prefer a digital watch, but I'm willing to try an
analog watch which has a little digital window for a seperate
(independently settable) time zone.

I've also seen some seiko, citizen, etc. with a seperate "gmt" hand, but
I want to make sure these things actually work (alot of them are not
able to be set independently from the local time I think...)

Please post suggestions, and sorry if maybe a little of topic, but it is
for shortwave listening.

Thanks,

Malomarski
Those circular displays with the pointers are pretty anachronistic and
beset with problems such as lack of shock resistance, parallax error
when reading, wear and tear on mechanical elements, etc.

That being said, a Rolex GMT Master has the extra 24 hour analog hour
hand.

Those old mechanical windup and selfwinding Timex's are great
wris****ches.I own several of them.Another old Timex wristatch I own was
one of the first models of Timex electric wris****ches.
cuhulin

A Timex Expedition may fit the bill. There are several versions. Mine
is more than 4 years old and seems to have been discontinued, but I'm
guessing the current models have the same good features.

It's easy to sync the watch to a radio time signal. In time set mode
you can punch a button to zero the seconds, then adjust the hours and
minutes at leisure while the seconds continue to tick. This is a much
better system than some other digital watches I have. They stop
running as soon as you enter time set mode. That makes it impossible
to change just the hours without losing your time hack.

The Expedition has a secondary time zone display which you can switch
to permanently (it replaces the primary time until you switch back),
or you can just peek at it by holding a button. Minutes and seconds
are slaved to the primary time, so you can't set up one of those
peculiar time zones with half hour offsets. The secondary time has its
own independent date display, and your preference for AM/PM or 24 hour
time format can be different from the primary display.

This is the first all-digital wris****ch I've owned. I bought it in
late 2000 as a temporary cheap stand-in while I made up my mind which
real watch (with hands) to buy. Well, I liked that cheap watch so much
I never did replace it with a "real watch"!

After 4+ years I'm still on the original battery.

Daily rate averaged
about .15 seconds gained per day when new and increased over time. But
for the past year it's been stable at about .36 - .40 seconds per day.

--
Paul Hirose
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"Those circular displays with the pointers are pretty anachronistic"

JS In what way are analog displays anachronistic. They are much
easier to tell at a glance whether the target location is in darkness
or light.

" and beset with problems such as lack of shock resistance"
JS Are you aware that for the past half century almost all mechanical
watches use shock absorbtion devices like Kif or Diashock. Modern
mechanical movements are surprisingly robust. If the last new watch
you tried was in the 1940's, then I could understand why you might make
such a statement.

", parallax error when reading,"
JS Unless you were trying to read the dial from an extreme angle it
would be all but impossible to experience noticable parallax error. At
such angles digital displays disappear from view entirely. Most of us
have learned that dgital and analog watches are most easily read when
the wrist is turned toward the eyes and not away.

" wear and tear on mechanical elements, etc."
JS What mechanical or electronic device have you found that does NOT
experience wear over time. That said, a mechanical watch movement can
be kept running for over 100 years with nothing other than simple
periodic maintenance. (I have several of them).

"That being said, a Rolex GMT Master has the extra 24 hour analog hour
hand."
JS What an utter watse of money. There are several highly accurate
quartz and mechanical GMT watches that provide the same GMT timekeeping
features with movements that are as accurate or more so at a tiny
fraction of the cost of a Rolex.

Seiko is among the leaders when it comes to producing highly accurate
GMT watches that have a rotating 24 hour bezel, an independently
adjustable 12 hour hand that allows the date to be rolled over and a 24
hour hand. The Seiko will run circles around the Rolex when it comes to
accuracy.

"John S." wrote:

"Those circular displays with the pointers are pretty anachronistic"

JS In what way are analog displays anachronistic. They are much
easier to tell at a glance whether the target location is in darkness
or light.

" and beset with problems such as lack of shock resistance"
JS Are you aware that for the past half century almost all mechanical
watches use shock absorbtion devices like Kif or Diashock. Modern
mechanical movements are surprisingly robust. If the last new watch
you tried was in the 1940's, then I could understand why you might make
such a statement.

", parallax error when reading,"
JS Unless you were trying to read the dial from an extreme angle it
would be all but impossible to experience noticable parallax error. At
such angles digital displays disappear from view entirely. Most of us
have learned that dgital and analog watches are most easily read when
the wrist is turned toward the eyes and not away.

" wear and tear on mechanical elements, etc."
JS What mechanical or electronic device have you found that does NOT
experience wear over time. That said, a mechanical watch movement can
be kept running for over 100 years with nothing other than simple
periodic maintenance. (I have several of them).

"That being said, a Rolex GMT Master has the extra 24 hour analog hour
hand."
JS What an utter watse of money. There are several highly accurate
quartz and mechanical GMT watches that provide the same GMT timekeeping
features with movements that are as accurate or more so at a tiny
fraction of the cost of a Rolex.

Seiko is among the leaders when it comes to producing highly accurate
GMT watches that have a rotating 24 hour bezel, an independently
adjustable 12 hour hand that allows the date to be rolled over and a 24
hour hand. The Seiko will run circles around the Rolex when it comes to
accuracy.

Perhaps, but one is liable to get more dates with the Rolex!

dxAce
Michigan
USA

On 2 Apr 2005 08:35:18 -0800, "John S." wrote:

"Those circular displays with the pointers are pretty anachronistic"

JS In what way are analog displays anachronistic. They are much
easier to tell at a glance whether the target location is in darkness
or light.
A twelve hour dial is easily read at a glance, a 24 hour, not so easy.
" and beset with problems such as lack of shock resistance"
JS Are you aware that for the past half century almost all mechanical
watches use shock absorbtion devices like Kif or Diashock. Modern
mechanical movements are surprisingly robust. If the last new watch
you tried was in the 1940's, then I could understand why you might make
such a statement.
How many G's will such a device withstand?

No doubt that one must pay dearly for the right to wear and display a
watch with the little golden crown. Unless one buys his golden crowned
watch from a Central Park vendor.