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Old April 27th 05, 02:41 PM
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Default Casual AM/MW DXing ? Grundig S350 -=V=- Sony ICF-SW7600GR + Select-A-Tenna

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Old April 28th 05, 04:00 AM
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The 7600GR doesn't need a Select-A-Tenna to outperform the the S360 on any
band.

"Dan" wrote in message
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In article .com,
"RHF" wrote:

For One and All,
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The Sony ICF-SW7600GR paired with a Select-A-Tenna
and placed on a Lazy Susan; should out perform the
Grundig S350 / Tecsun BCL-2000 in most locations
for casual AM/MW DXing.


So it's your contention that a more expensive radio - coupled with an
additional cost, extra antenna - will outperform a less expensive radio,
using only it's built-in antenna?

Congratulations, Captain Obvious!

For One and All, RHF is a dumbass.

Dan



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Old April 28th 05, 05:09 PM
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DAN - Now That Is An "Expert" Opinion ~ RHF
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Old April 28th 05, 05:44 PM
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Old April 29th 05, 01:39 AM
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"RHF" wrote in message
oups.com...
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I will also repeat my assertion that :
" the Grundig S350 / Tecsun BCL-2000
"Sounds" much better that the Sony
ICF-SW7600GR and is the better
over-all Program Listener Radio. "


[snip & flip]
I attribute this the small size of the
Sony ICF-SW7600GR Radio's built-in
AM/MW Ferrite Rod Loop Antenna.
Plus the extra AM/MW Sensitivity of
the Grundig S350 / Tecsun BCL-2000.


Your contradicting yourself. You don't need a "Select-A-Tenna" for that. I
find the MW sensitivity of the 7600, especially with the Synch Detector, to
be very sensitive. When you alegedly made your comparison did you turn the
S.D. on? And going further down the band it is equaly sensitive in the LW
band off the built-in rod antenna. Off the whip the 7600 will beat the best
of them in its price class.

How is the S350 when adjacent channel interference is a problem? What about
images? The 7600 has the tools to effectively deal with these issues. Are
the S350 tools effective? But a S9+20 program listener wouldn't need these
tools.

Any radio with a large speaker will sound "good" for S9+20 flamethrower
program listening. Anyone that would base there receiver decision mainly on
speaker size is fooling themselves among other things. Especially when the
price difference
between these two receivers is so small. Perhaps you forget that the 7600
also has audio out and can be used to feed a "pair" of superb speakers of
your choice for excellent audio with stereo on FM to boot. In which case
almost any decent pair of powered external speakers will make the S350
speaker sound like hell. And in case you were not aware, the Sony's are
known for having exceptionally clean audio output. What does the S350 sound
like on outboard speakers?

If all you want to do is listen to a hand full of flamethrowers without any
interest in portable weak signal work, then sure get yourself the cheapest
big speaker you can find. In my opinion that isn't SWL in the purist
definition .





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Old April 29th 05, 01:52 AM
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"Li.Changchun" ) writes:

Any radio with a large speaker will sound "good" for S9+20 flamethrower
program listening. Anyone that would base there receiver decision mainly on
speaker size is fooling themselves among other things. Especially when the
price difference
between these two receivers is so small. Perhaps you forget that the 7600
also has audio out and can be used to feed a "pair" of superb speakers of
your choice for excellent audio with stereo on FM to boot. In which case
almost any decent pair of powered external speakers will make the S350
speaker sound like hell. And in case you were not aware, the Sony's are
known for having exceptionally clean audio output. What does the S350 sound
like on outboard speakers?

And the odd thing is that "sound" seems to be a constant theme in
this newsgroup. "X isn't as good as Y, but it has better sound".

It's infinitely easier to attach an external speaker, as you suggest,
than it is to fix other things that a radio is not good at.

In the old days, many shortwave receivers didn't even have speakers
built in, and if they did it was a minimal one for convenience and
you were realistically expected to attach an external speaker for
most use.

You can't get good sound with a tiny speaker, and all you get is the
raw speaker with no attempt at making the box fit it. The minute you
go to an external speaker, you no longer have to worry about size of
the raw speaker, you can pick one with a nice big magnet which will
handle more power (the tiny speakers may not do well at higher volunes)
and you can put it in a box that will optimize the effect of that raw
speaker.

Even forget all that, many a cheap speaker box will be better than an
internal speaker.

Michael
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