Hi newsgroup:

I "bid" on a radio, within an hour or so, someone "outbid" me. So-far so good,
all is fair. (and I was kind of glad for opportunity to change my mind)

Anyhow, I *didn't* engage in a bidding war, the other guy won. After the auction
I was given an offer to "purchase" the radio.

I *suspect* the seller had another account and bid to inflate the price, hoping
I'd play along. Nothing illegal or immoral about it, but just thought I'd point
it out to anyone looking. (Seemed strange that all of a sudden someone would be
interested in it, despite there were still hours to go and it had been listed
for days)

If you are interested in something with relatively few (or no) bidders, bid on
an item and then are outbid, it just might be the merchant playing you. By not
playing along, you could end up saving yourself the cost of a bidding fight.

As for me, I'm still looking at them, just not emotionally attached. (My ace in
the hole)

Jamie
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Fredrick Garvin wrote:

On Fri, 27 May 2005 07:50:24 +0000, nospam expelled the following:

Hi newsgroup:

I "bid" on a radio, within an hour or so, someone "outbid" me. So-far so good,
all is fair. (and I was kind of glad for opportunity to change my mind)


ebay is for assclowns with far too much time on their hands....

Well, it certainly isn't for 'tard boys who haven't a clue.

dxAce
Michigan
USA

Or, it's the best place to find used radios so long as one understands how
it works and handles each auction intelligently.

"Fredrick Garvin" wrote in message
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On Fri, 27 May 2005 07:50:24 +0000, nospam expelled the following:

Hi newsgroup:

I "bid" on a radio, within an hour or so, someone "outbid" me. So-far so
good,
all is fair. (and I was kind of glad for opportunity to change my mind)



ebay is for assclowns with far too much time on their hands....

Anyhow, I *didn't* engage in a bidding war, the other guy won. After the
auction
I was given an offer to "purchase" the radio.

************************************************** *******************************

NO- I'TS A SCAM. i got the same offer on a radio i was outbid on. i
received an email
off ebay for the same item. i emailed the seller and was told it was not
from him. a
scam, i googled ebay scams and found out this is nothing new. the scam
email said the
buyer backed out and i could have the radio for the top bid price. the
old send the
money and never hear from them again. i forwarded the email to ebay.
don't fall for
this one.
Drifter...

In: , Drifter wrote:
************************************************* ********************************

NO- I'TS A SCAM. i got the same offer on a radio i was outbid on. i
received an email
off ebay for the same item. i emailed the seller and was told it was not
from him. a
scam, i googled ebay scams and found out this is nothing new. the scam
email said the
buyer backed out and i could have the radio for the top bid price. the
old send the
money and never hear from them again. i forwarded the email to ebay.

Was yours a link to an ebay site or a clone?

Thanks for the warning, I don't think thats what this was, just because
of the relative lack of interest in the item. (I didn't do it)

It is something to watch out for though, thanks much for the info!

Jamie
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I agree. If you really want an item on Ebay, sniping is the way to go.

Steve

"Fredrick Garvin" wrote in message
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On Fri, 27 May 2005 07:50:24 +0000, nospam expelled the following:

Hi newsgroup:

I "bid" on a radio, within an hour or so, someone "outbid" me. So-far so
good,
all is fair. (and I was kind of glad for opportunity to change my mind)



ebay is for assclowns with far too much time on their hands....



So what brings you here Mr. Ass Clown? with not enough time on his hands.

B.H.

Drifter wrote:

Anyhow, I *didn't* engage in a bidding war, the other guy won. After the
auction
I was given an offer to "purchase" the radio.

************************************************** *******************************

NO- I'TS A SCAM. i got the same offer on a radio i was outbid on. i
received an email
off ebay for the same item. i emailed the seller and was told it was not
from him. a
scam, i googled ebay scams and found out this is nothing new. the scam
email said the
buyer backed out and i could have the radio for the top bid price. the
old send the
money and never hear from them again. i forwarded the email to ebay.
don't fall for
this one.
Drifter...

This is a common scam.

A few months ago I sold a Questar lens, and a bidder contacted me with a copy of
an email he got from someone claiming to be me offering to close the auction in
return for a prompt wired payment. Fortunately, I was able to confirm it wasn't
me and add a warning to my auction that this was happening.

I've also had people contact me after an auction claiming they were the seller
and the high bidder backed out so the item was available for my bid.
In one case, the guy attempting the fraud was remarkably stupid because I won
the auction, paid for the item, and already had it.

But these kinds of things aren't likely to happen on auctions for items bringing
less than several hundred dollars.

) writes:
In: , "Mark S. Holden" wrote:
This is a common scam.

A few months ago I sold a Questar lens, and a bidder contacted me with a copy of
an email he got from someone claiming to be me offering to close the auction in
return for a prompt wired payment. Fortunately, I was able to confirm it wasn't
me and add a warning to my auction that this was happening.

I've also had people contact me after an auction claiming they were the seller
and the high bidder backed out so the item was available for my bid.
In one case, the guy attempting the fraud was remarkably stupid because I won
the auction, paid for the item, and already had it.

But these kinds of things aren't likely to happen on auctions for items bringing
less than several hundred dollars.

This one was for a cheap radio. I didn't really consider it a "scam", just a
rather clever "trick" on the merchants part to inflate a price.

It was one of those "info-mate" crank style radios. (Anyone have experience
with those?)

I wouldn't mind a cheap crank radio with shortwave AND weather band. I've got a
crank AM/FM and I like it for storms, but, alas, no weather band, shortwave
or other, so it'd be pretty worthless in a longer power outage. (It's AM doesn't
work all that well, tuner sticks, etc.. the main feature is the crank & solar
panel)

One thing I like about mine is that I can very quickly crank it part way,
release the handle and it'll play while the spring mechanism unwinds (This is
kind of important, when a tornado is on it's way, the 15 seconds to wind it
even part way feels like eternity) The batteries charge AND the radio operates
while it unwinds. No weather band though...

Never occured to me that some radios would have the crank directly connected to
the dynamo, with a restriction that the radio can't be used while cranking. If
the radio could be used *while* cranking, it'd be nicer than mine but if it won't
operate during the crank cycle AND you have to turn the crank for 60 seconds
before turning it on, (w/out the spring, so high speed cranking 4 x faster DOESN'T
equate to 15 seconds) what use is it during emergency?

Of course, manually operated generaters were traditionally cranked directly.
All those WWII spy radios and emergency gear, when you pedalled or spun
the crank you were either charging a battery or running the radio directly.

A windup radio is a relatively new thing (or if it's not new, it was rare
until relatively recently). The Baygen was quite an innovation, in
terms of power, when it arrived on the market, and that's either
the introduction of the windup generator, or he made it popular. For
consumer radios, you really didn't see generators until the Baygen arrived.
Afterwards, they started becoming more and more common, with of course
other items added to the mix. I was given an LED flashlight at Christmas,
and it's got a generator.

There may be patent restrictions on the windup, or other manufacturers
are unable to create as neat a result, making them go to a regular generator.

I have no idea, but one guess at why you aren't supposed to use
the radio while cranking is that the generator may be too noisy. Either
it will interfere with radio reception, or they worry that the spikes will
damage the radio circuitry.

That LED flashlight of mine says the same thing, don't turn the light
on while cranking. But I've done it, and it's not damaged yet.

Michael

Digging further revealed this model had these restrictions, so, I was kind of
glad to back out. :-)


Jamie
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In: , (Michael Black) wrote:
Of course, manually operated generaters were traditionally cranked directly.
All those WWII spy radios and emergency gear, when you pedalled or spun
the crank you were either charging a battery or running the radio directly.

Hmm.. Wonder why there aren't any consumer based dynamos with an
adapter to run stuff on. (A dynamo / recharge battery takes place
of a wal-wart transformer)

I have no idea, but one guess at why you aren't supposed to use
the radio while cranking is that the generator may be too noisy. Either
it will interfere with radio reception, or they worry that the spikes will
damage the radio circuitry.

I would think the generator kicks out a higher voltage (or spiked) which
would trash the radio. I guess the spring-loaded radios actually
unwind at different rates depending on volume?

Slowly cranking a generator so as to supply the correct effeciency
would really be annoying.

That LED flashlight of mine says the same thing, don't turn the light
on while cranking. But I've done it, and it's not damaged yet.

Would be interesting to see what one of them does when the radio
is played during the crank cycle.

Jamie
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