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Old August 7th 05, 08:10 PM
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Yeah, I love to mess around with wire antennas. I really have no room
at all for it because I live in an apartment. However, I'm blessed
because the management company that oversees my building doesn't seem
to care what I do or what I put on the roof. So, I've been going up on
the roof periodically to experiment with long runs of wire. Eventually,
I'm going to get at least one 200 ft random wire antenna up there. The
key will be to get it 15 ft or so above the roof, so that it's clear of
the building's noise envelope. There's some exposed structural steel up
there that should make an excellent ground.

I have a Wellbrook 330S loop and I'm very happy with it, but I can't
lose itch to mess around with wire once in a while.

Steve


That's cool. I don't have as much room as I did out there but I do have
70'
pine trees so I ran a wire 50' across the yard and strait up the trunk to
about 10' from the top of the tallest tree so I guess I got about 110'
there
and I did the same with the other tree but about 30' less. they run
almost
90 degrees from one and other so I switch between the two for best
reception. Contrary to what some think, you can bend long wires around
your
QTH. Steve Lare I think has a bent long wire and he reports great results
with his setup.


No, two wires. One is 70' and runs N-S, and the other is 200' and runs
W-E. Both
are transformer matched.

dxAce
Michigan
USA

http://www.iserv.net/~n8kdv/dxpage.htm



Oh I think I must have seen the pic and looking at the posts I thought it
turned?


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Brian Hill wrote:

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Brian Hill wrote:

wrote in message
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Yeah, I love to mess around with wire antennas. I really have no room
at all for it because I live in an apartment. However, I'm blessed
because the management company that oversees my building doesn't seem
to care what I do or what I put on the roof. So, I've been going up on
the roof periodically to experiment with long runs of wire. Eventually,
I'm going to get at least one 200 ft random wire antenna up there. The
key will be to get it 15 ft or so above the roof, so that it's clear of
the building's noise envelope. There's some exposed structural steel up
there that should make an excellent ground.

I have a Wellbrook 330S loop and I'm very happy with it, but I can't
lose itch to mess around with wire once in a while.

Steve


That's cool. I don't have as much room as I did out there but I do have
70'
pine trees so I ran a wire 50' across the yard and strait up the trunk to
about 10' from the top of the tallest tree so I guess I got about 110'
there
and I did the same with the other tree but about 30' less. they run
almost
90 degrees from one and other so I switch between the two for best
reception. Contrary to what some think, you can bend long wires around
your
QTH. Steve Lare I think has a bent long wire and he reports great results
with his setup.


No, two wires. One is 70' and runs N-S, and the other is 200' and runs
W-E. Both
are transformer matched.

dxAce
Michigan
USA

http://www.iserv.net/~n8kdv/dxpage.htm



Oh I think I must have seen the pic and looking at the posts I thought it
turned?


The one in the foreground is the 200' (at the time the pic was taken it was
100'. In the background you can see one of the supports for the 70' wire.

Both antennas share one of the posts.

dxAce
Michigan
USA



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73 and good DX. B.H.
Brian's Radio Universe
http://webpages.charter.net/brianhill/500.htm


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Old August 7th 05, 09:01 PM
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The one in the foreground is the 200' (at the time the pic was taken it
was
100'. In the background you can see one of the supports for the 70' wire.

Both antennas share one of the posts.

dxAce
Michigan
USA



I gotcha now.

B.H.


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dxAce wrote:

Brian Hill wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
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Brian Hill wrote:

wrote in message
oups.com...
Yeah, I love to mess around with wire antennas. I really have no room
at all for it because I live in an apartment. However, I'm blessed
because the management company that oversees my building doesn't seem
to care what I do or what I put on the roof. So, I've been going up on
the roof periodically to experiment with long runs of wire. Eventually,
I'm going to get at least one 200 ft random wire antenna up there. The
key will be to get it 15 ft or so above the roof, so that it's clear of
the building's noise envelope. There's some exposed structural steel up
there that should make an excellent ground.

I have a Wellbrook 330S loop and I'm very happy with it, but I can't
lose itch to mess around with wire once in a while.

Steve


That's cool. I don't have as much room as I did out there but I do have
70'
pine trees so I ran a wire 50' across the yard and strait up the trunk to
about 10' from the top of the tallest tree so I guess I got about 110'
there
and I did the same with the other tree but about 30' less. they run
almost
90 degrees from one and other so I switch between the two for best
reception. Contrary to what some think, you can bend long wires around
your
QTH. Steve Lare I think has a bent long wire and he reports great results
with his setup.

No, two wires. One is 70' and runs N-S, and the other is 200' and runs
W-E. Both
are transformer matched.

dxAce
Michigan
USA

http://www.iserv.net/~n8kdv/dxpage.htm



Oh I think I must have seen the pic and looking at the posts I thought it
turned?


The one in the foreground is the 200' (at the time the pic was taken it was
100'. In the background you can see one of the supports for the 70' wire.

Both antennas share one of the posts.


Another difference is that dxAce has his ~ 9 foot off the ground and
Brian is up 60 to 70 foot in the air so Brian's wire should pick up more
signal theoretically but dxAce's wires will have a lower noise floor.
dxAce reports using the pre-amp rarely if ever so his antennas pick up
enough signal.

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Ventura, California
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That's a nice setup. No doubt about it.

I hope to have room for an arrangement like that one day, but I fear it
won't happen until I retire.

Steve



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