DeWayne wrote:
http://www.northcoastjournal.com/080405/cover0804.html

I don't buy his excuse for one minute...this was much more than just
getting a group of names to test potential products on.

From the story: At some point, Williams gave Justice instructions on
how to break into Crane's database systems and retrieve the company's
list of customers. On Tuesday, Nov. 18, Williams and Justice exchanged
a flurry of e-mails. Most of them were during business hours, when
Justice would have been sitting at his computer in C. Crane's offices.
Justice had successfully obtained the list. .... But both knew that was
just the beginning of their problems. In April, C. Crane had filed a
14-count civil suit against them, Wang, Sangean and Justice's father,
Jack Justice, who had gone into partnership with his son to develop
RadioLabs. The suit charged that these parties conspired to
misappropriate C. Crane's trade secrets, to engage in unfair business
competition and to interfere with the relationship between C. Crane and
its subcontractors.

Justice, Willams and Sangean are damn lucky imho.

That so-called "engineer" (picture/photo) looks like he is "stoned" all
the time.
cuhulin

Justice, Willams and Sangean are damn lucky imho.

- We don't know what the settlement was.. Sangean obviously settled
rather than losing

But Justice & Willaims could have done time..

& Crane wouldn't have settled unless he settled for something
worthwhile;;

wrote:
Those Select-A-Tennas arn't worth a crap! They are as useless as the
Tiny Tennas.I bought one of them when I bought the first Sangean
AM/FM/Weather/TV radio from CCRane that I tried out for a week.I sent
that JUNK back to CCRane and I bought a Sangean ATS 909 radio that I
tried out for a week from CCRane.Those two radios and that antenna
didn't show me anything at all.I sent all that JUNK back to CCRane
company.Dig into your computer files/data or your paper files/data,Bob
Crane and see for yourslelf.What A RIPP OFF!
cuhulin



I would agree about the TinyTenna, but what were you using the
Select-A-Tenna for? For AM reception, with any radio that has a
built-in AM antenna (ferrite bar or loop) I consistently find that it's
a distinct help at night, a *profound* help in the daytime for DX on the
AM band. I paid $45 for it five years ago, and consider it money well
spent. Thee are AM stations I listen to regularly that are fine with the
Select-A-tenna, but are "hashy" without it.

Tony

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DeWayne,

I prefer radios with the old style mechanical analog dials and tuning
anyday,even if they do drift a little bit.My old radios hardley drift
enough to worry about at all.Sometimes,old technology is better than new
technology.I am going to buy a new CRT (Cathode Ray Tube) HDTV set at
Cowboy Maloney's Electric City store next year.I am not the least bit
interested in LED's and stuff like that.I like the old technology.
cuhulin

RHF wrote:

DeWayne,
.
My Read on the Article "Incident At CCrane ?" is :
http://www.northcoastjournal.com/080405/cover0804.html
.
1. C. Crane Company screws Chris Justice out of the
Royalties from the products that he designed for them.
= Chris Justice is Ripped Offed !

How so? 'He was under the impression that Crane had promised him royalties on
certain of his inventions, and Crane wasn't delivering.'

'Impressions' just don't cut it. A legal document would!

'Inventions'? Did he have any of his 'inventions' patented? Did C. Crane have
any of these so-called 'inventions' patented?

If Chris Justice was 'ripped off' then he did it to himself.

dxAce
Michigan
USA

wrote:
Justice, Willams and Sangean are damn lucky imho.

- We don't know what the settlement was.. Sangean obviously settled
rather than losing

But Justice & Willaims could have done time..
No indication of that from the article.


I gather from the article that Justice is back in business about a
block from his former employer.

& Crane wouldn't have settled unless he settled for something
worthwhile;;

"John S." wrote:

wrote:
Justice, Willams and Sangean are damn lucky imho.

- We don't know what the settlement was.. Sangean obviously settled
rather than losing

But Justice & Willaims could have done time..
No indication of that from the article.

Sure there was... Both Justice and Williams were originally charged with grand
theft... that's a FELONY... obviously pled down to a misdemeanour.

dxAce
Michigan
USA

Directly quoting from the article: "On Oct. 4, 2004, Justice and
Williams both pleaded no contest to misdemeanor larceny counts
for theft of the database. Each was sentenced to three years of
probation and 150 hours of community service and ordered to
pay a $1,300 fine."
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I guess this is modern ethics.
Radio Laboratory will get ANY of my business.

I had suggested to 2 friends that they send
their DX398 for the super upgrade. I called
and told both that given the clear cut facts,
that the pilot lights would have to be out
in Hell before I would even consider dealing
with them. If he will screw his employer, he
has shown he is a thief, indicated by his guitlty
plea, and hasn't shown a lot of remorse. I hope
his complany flounders and he ends broke
on the street. Maybe he ought to embrace Ebay,
his ethics would sure fit in.

Terry