I bought The Tivoli Audio Model 2 last week. It came with an additional
speaker. I also bought the Tivoli Audio subwoofer speaker.

However the subwoofer speaker is not very loud. Before I bought the
subwoofer, I thought it will work well giving nice deep tones, but I can
not hear it very much even when I have the vol. all the way up.

Also their is no tone button. I learned that a tone button is good to
use when trying to hear stations that might have a near by interference.

I do not like buttons and the phone hole in the rear of the radio. They
should all be in front. The bass vol. should be on the radio and not on
the subwoofer speaker. And the dial spread is too dark to read!

But I must say the wood on this radio is nice. I haven't had a wooden
radio in years.

* Is their a way to add a tone button? What device do I need?
* Is their a way to make the subwoofer louder?
* Can I add another speaker in the rec. hole?
* What could I use for an AM antenna with this radio?

The radio sounds nice but a little flat without a stronger bass.
From a scale from 1-10 I give it a 7. Maybe a 8+ without these problems.

Thanks, SR 73!

SR wrote:
I bought The Tivoli Audio Model 2 last week. It came with an additional
speaker. I also bought the Tivoli Audio subwoofer speaker.

However the subwoofer speaker is not very loud. Before I bought the
subwoofer, I thought it will work well giving nice deep tones, but I can
not hear it very much even when I have the vol. all the way up.

Also their is no tone button. I learned that a tone button is good to
use when trying to hear stations that might have a near by interference.

I do not like buttons and the phone hole in the rear of the radio. They
should all be in front. The bass vol. should be on the radio and not on
the subwoofer speaker. And the dial spread is too dark to read!

But I must say the wood on this radio is nice. I haven't had a wooden
radio in years.

* Is their a way to add a tone button? What device do I need?
* Is their a way to make the subwoofer louder?
* Can I add another speaker in the rec. hole?
* What could I use for an AM antenna with this radio?

The radio sounds nice but a little flat without a stronger bass.
From a scale from 1-10 I give it a 7. Maybe a 8+ without these problems.
Take a look at the Sangean equivalent - I've heard the audio is pretty
good for a little radio.


Thanks, SR 73!

In article , SR wrote:
I bought The Tivoli Audio Model 2 last week. It came with an additional
speaker. I also bought the Tivoli Audio subwoofer speaker.

However the subwoofer speaker is not very loud. Before I bought the
subwoofer, I thought it will work well giving nice deep tones, but I can
not hear it very much even when I have the vol. all the way up.

Also their is no tone button. I learned that a tone button is good to
use when trying to hear stations that might have a near by interference.

Pretty good bet this is all by design.

First, the Tivoli/Kloss radios use some pretty heavy audio equalization to
get "big" sound out of small speakers. Allowing any degree of manual
control would allow the user to defeat the intentions of the designer, and
so it's probably omitted as part of the design.

Second, the AM section on these radios is perfunctory at best. The antenna
is a simple spool of wire inside the cabinet, sensitivity is mediocre, and
selectivity pedestrian.

This is a program listener's radio, not a DX machine ... and one whose
design is heavily weighted towards FM performance.

SR ) writes:
I bought The Tivoli Audio Model 2 last week. It came with an additional
speaker. I also bought the Tivoli Audio subwoofer speaker.

However the subwoofer speaker is not very loud. Before I bought the
subwoofer, I thought it will work well giving nice deep tones, but I can
not hear it very much even when I have the vol. all the way up.

And this would be better in an audio related newsgroup.

Subwoofers don't make bass louder. They just better reproduce what's
there.

If you've got no bass from the source, then a subwoofer can't do a thing.

If a speaker can't reproduce low frequencies well, then of course those
frequencies will be attenuated. A subwoofer covers those lower frequencies.
But their purpose is not to make the bass "louder", it's to ensure that
the bass frequencies are there in the proportion to the rest of the signal
that was the original case. Bass frequencies aren't "loud" in a simple
speaker setup not because there's not enough amplification, but because
the speaker can't reproduce those frequencies.

Before you can claim that a subwoofer isn't loud enough, you need to
know whether there is much low frequency signal in the audio to begin
with. And when fiddling with level controls, you don't want an exagferated
amplification, you want to set the level so it simply reproduces the
low frequencies to the extent that they would be in a decent speaker.

Take note of two things. One is that a real subwoofer is about reproducing
really low frequencies. They are not about making a mediocre speaker better,
but about extending the range of good speakers to reproduce frequencies
that you may feel as much as hear. You can get away with a single subwoofer
because at those frequencies there is no directionality, so stereo makes
no sense. But they have to be used with speakers that can properly reproduce
frequencies down to the point where a subwoofer adds something.

The other thing to note is that most "subwoofers" aren't. They are there to
try to make up for crummy speakers that can't reproduce bass frequencies.
So you get a tweeter like speaker in the main speakers, and then a single
maybe larger speaker to handle bass. But by then it's supposed to handle
a much wider range of bass frequenecies, and above the point where the
signals become directional. And the reality is that many of these
"subwoofers" aren't really capable of dealing with low frequencies, because
they are smaller than a "bookshelf" speaker that can do a better job
at low frequencies.

Michael

On Tue, 23 Aug 2005 17:27:04 -0400, SR wrote:

I bought The Tivoli Audio Model 2 last week. It came with an additional
speaker. I also bought the Tivoli Audio subwoofer speaker.

However the subwoofer speaker is not very loud. Before I bought the
subwoofer, I thought it will work well giving nice deep tones, but I can
not hear it very much even when I have the vol. all the way up.

Also their is no tone button. I learned that a tone button is good to
use when trying to hear stations that might have a near by interference.

I do not like buttons and the phone hole in the rear of the radio. They
should all be in front. The bass vol. should be on the radio and not on
the subwoofer speaker. And the dial spread is too dark to read!

But I must say the wood on this radio is nice. I haven't had a wooden
radio in years.

* Is their a way to add a tone button? What device do I need?
* Is their a way to make the subwoofer louder?
* Can I add another speaker in the rec. hole?
* What could I use for an AM antenna with this radio?

The radio sounds nice but a little flat without a stronger bass.
From a scale from 1-10 I give it a 7. Maybe a 8+ without these problems.

Thanks, SR 73!

The only way to adjust the tone on a purist hi-fi is to change the
speaker's relationship to the room. Move the boxes around. A big
table top gives more bass than on top of a stool. Closer to the wall
also increases bass. Keep all the speakers within a feet o of each
other for ''mutual coupling'' which also reinforces the lows.

Mike S. - You got that right ~ RHF
. . . . .

I dont care much for push button radios either.Well,the old vacuum tube
car radios (of which I own at least seven or eight of them) have push
buttons and some of my old vacuum tube AM and AM/FM table model radios
and my old vacuum tube Grundig/Telefunken AM/FM/Shortwave/Phonograph
wooden cabinet floor model radio and my big old vacuum tube Telefunken
AM/FM/Shortwave wooden cabinet table model radios have some push buttons
on them,but that's ok.Speaking of speakers though,last week at the
Goodwill store,for two dollars,I bought a very nice Realistic (Radio
Shack) model SOLO-2 wooden cabinet speaker.It measures about 9 5/8 high
by 5 7/8 wide by 6 5/8 front to back.It has a very nice solid wood
cabinet and a sort of a gold weave looking "fabric" grill that is almost
as large as the front of the cabinet and brass color metal strips around
the grill.It has considerable weight too,I wouldn't want to accidentley
drop it on my toe.I wish there had been more than one Realistic SOLO-2
speaker at the Goodwill store,I certainly would have bought them too.I
have seen those Tivoli radios advertized before.I was wondering if they
are any good?
cuhulin

cuhulin: I think their good, but that depends on ones need. Their is
no shortwave in Model 2. But it does give a nice deep tone & sterio
sound in AM & FM mode. In fact it sounds nicer then my Sony ICF 2010.

I also like the old fashion look to it.

Basically, for a small desk top, it has a good sound.

SR 73!



wrote:

I dont care much for push button radios either.Well,the old vacuum tube
car radios (of which I own at least seven or eight of them) have push
buttons and some of my old vacuum tube AM and AM/FM table model radios
and my old vacuum tube Grundig/Telefunken AM/FM/Shortwave/Phonograph
wooden cabinet floor model radio and my big old vacuum tube Telefunken
AM/FM/Shortwave wooden cabinet table model radios have some push buttons
on them,but that's ok.Speaking of speakers though,last week at the
Goodwill store,for two dollars,I bought a very nice Realistic (Radio
Shack) model SOLO-2 wooden cabinet speaker.It measures about 9 5/8 high
by 5 7/8 wide by 6 5/8 front to back.It has a very nice solid wood
cabinet and a sort of a gold weave looking "fabric" grill that is almost
as large as the front of the cabinet and brass color metal strips around
the grill.It has considerable weight too,I wouldn't want to accidentley
drop it on my toe.I wish there had been more than one Realistic SOLO-2
speaker at the Goodwill store,I certainly would have bought them too.I
have seen those Tivoli radios advertized before.I was wondering if they
are any good?
cuhulin

On Wed, 24 Aug 2005 02:01:45 -0400, SR wrote:

cuhulin: I think their good, but that depends on ones need. Their is
no shortwave in Model 2. But it does give a nice deep tone & sterio
sound in AM & FM mode. In fact it sounds nicer then my Sony ICF 2010.

I also like the old fashion look to it.

Basically, for a small desk top, it has a good sound.

SR 73!

The Tivoli ''Model'' series (and the PAL, I think) has an excellent FM
discrete component front-end. That is their strong point. They
pick-up FM as well as any receiver made.

But since FM is not shortwave, expect flames.

I think (I dont own one,I might buy one someday) the Tivoli,,,
Tivoli/Kloss Radios are nice Radios.
cuhulin