-ex- wrote:
VOA SWLer wrote:



If anyone is using diesel, the local Giant food store here in Laurel,
Maryland is selling their brand name vegetable oil and Crisco oil in
bottles of a little over two quarts (as of September 2) on sale. It
works out to be about $3.10 per gallon.

(Today, diesel fuel here was priced at +/- $3.65 per gallon.)

A friend of mine is using Crisco in his diesel powered Dodge Ram 2500
pickup truck.

He says he gets 25 to 27+ mpg on the highway (about 10% less than
diesel fuel), vegetable oil provides better lubrication for the fuel
injectors than diesel fuel and it doesn't stink of diesel. He says
the diesel engine exhaust smells like McDonald's french fries.
:-)


I wonder if Mel-Fry would be better? Sure makes better fries!

-Bill

Do a search on SVO (straight vegetable oil). It is a good match for most
diesels, but it usually won't start the engine, and at room temperature is
borderline too thick to safely pass through the injectors. The solution to these
problems is to start the engine on diesel, and use the engine coolant to preheat
the SVO. When the engine is up to temperature, switch to SVO. When you are
a couple of miles from the end of your trip, switch back to diesel (to clear the
filters, pumps and lines of SVO)

Also, if your friend doesn't want to have to fill his truck bed with empty
VO bottles, he can buy the stuff in 55 gallon plastic barrels for a much reduced
price.

-Chuck

OBTW, using SVO in an on-the-road vehicle is illegal both federally, and in most
states, as you aren't paying the required per gallon road taxes. The road taxes
amount to about $1 per gallon of the price of fuel. It is also illegal to run a hybrid
using a battery charger, for the same reason... non commercial use is unlikely to be
caught in the near term, however. As SVO becomes more popular, I am sure that
the local constabulary will find ample time to pull over any vehicle that smells like
a fryer. The fines for running untaxed motor fuel on the road are very steep.

Just consider how much money the Crooked politicians rake off of the gas
prices.
cuhulin

VOA SWLer wrote:
A friend of mine is using Crisco in his diesel powered Dodge Ram 2500 pickup truck.

He says he gets 25 to 27+ mpg on the highway (about 10% less than diesel fuel),
vegetable oil provides better lubrication for the fuel injectors than diesel
fuel and it doesn't stink of diesel. He says the diesel engine exhaust smells
like McDonald's french fries.

It's acidic enough that it will eventually corrode the fuel injectors
if he does this for too long without adding some buffering or cutting it
with diesel. But that should be fine to get us through the current
shortage.

Likewise my local paint store is selling VM&P naptha for around $2/gal.
A gasoline engine won't run on it alone terribly well, but you can cut
gasoline with it without any harm. (Admittedly I say this as a guy
with a car that predates catalytic converters).

Hmm... what are alcohol prices slike?
--scott

--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

Lawrence,there used to be a big new foodstore right there at the
intersection of Highway 80 and Highway 18,within two blocks of me.I
remember when the foodstore was being built.There were dumptrucks
hauling out the dirt and from Pearl,Mississippi,dumptrucks brought in
some red sand dirt and then the building was built.I used to walk over
there several times every week and buy my food thingys.About 13 years
ago the foodstore closed down for whatever reason.The nearest foodstore
to me now is at the wal mart supercenter store on Greenway Drive and
Highway 18,about one and seven tenths mile South of me.So nowdays,I have
to get in my vehicle and fight that heavy crazy traffic and wait on half
a dozen traffic lights going there and back to my house just to go to
the foodstore once a week.I always stop off at the Goodwill store too
because it is right on the way to the foodstore.Otherwise,I wouldn't be
driving anywhere.
cuhulin

Diesel engines love vegetable oil.Almost any kind of clean filtered oil
makes diesel engines happy.In Brazil there are certain kinds of trees
that put out an oily substance and they tap those trees (sort of like
tapping Maple trees to make Maple syrup) and get that oily substance and
they pour it straight into the diesel fuel tanks of their diesel engine
vehicles.I dont remember the name of those trees.
cuhulin

I dont know about nowdays,but back in the late 1950's/early 1960's when
foreign diesel engine cars (Mercedes Benz and such like) started getting
popular in America,some folks would use their home heating oil in their
diesel engine cars because it was cheaper.I own a four cylinder Mercedes
Benz diesel engine I bought fom J.C.Whitney company back in the 1960's.I
was going to put it in a small 1962 International step van I used to own
and make a camper out of the van,but I never got around to doing it so
the diesel engine just sits in my old shed in my back yard and gathers
dust.
cuhulin

Chuck,running a hybrid vehicle using a battery charger? illegal? Is that
something like a home made hybrid vehicle? How about an Aircar? Do an
Evil www.devilfinder.com search for,The Aircar
cuhulin

I know about using heating oil being illegal. But sure enough, I googled
this subject and various state DOT's are trying to get Bio-Diesel
categorized for taxation. Still they are not talking about going after
solar power, but I am sure that is coming next. By the way, there is a
new "initiative" called "open roads", which is everything but open
roads. They are trying to put RFID transponders in every car and extract
tolls from everywhere you drive.

Chuck Harris wrote:

**THE-RFI-EMI-GUY** wrote:

Can you provide cites? I can't beleive that i would be breaking a law
if I drove a solar powered vehicle.


Why can't you believe it? The states and feds want their road taxes even
more than they want a solution to the fossil fuel problem.

Diesel for off the road tractors, and earth movers is untaxed, and is
dyed
red to make it obvious if a vehicle has ever used the stuff. (It
stains the
tank red, and the filters. Truckers get checked for this problem at
weigh
stations. On this I have first hand experience, as I run farm
tractors, and
earth moving equipment.

Here is a cite on that:

http://www.bizjournals.com/washingto...3/daily27.html

-Chuck


--
Joe Leikhim K4SAT
"The RFI-EMI-GUY"

The Lost Deep Thoughts By: Jack Handey
Before a mad scientist goes mad, there's probably a time
when he's only partially mad. And this is the time when he's
going to throw his best parties.

If vehicles get around to having RFID (which I Strongly disagree with,I
disagree with all RFID chips) transponders,best thing to do is take the
RFID transponders out of the vehicles and park them in the back yard.If
they are small enough,put them on the neighbors cats.
cuhulin

Chuck Harris wrote:


OBTW, using SVO in an on-the-road vehicle is illegal both federally, and
in most
states, as you aren't paying the required per gallon road taxes.

Who cares? What are the chances of him being stopped by an IRS
"revenuer" or a state official because his exhaust smells of french
fries?

Nil!