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Indonesian President Accuses Western Intel Of Being Behind Bali
Bombings

Free Market News | October 17 2005

An extraordinary documentary produced by Australian public television,
"Inside Indonesia's War on Terrorism," will be rebroadcast again on
Monday, October 17 at 1PM.

In the program which first aired on October 12, the blind, former
President of Indonesia – reportedly more trusted than any other
official in the country - told SBS-TV Date-Line, Australia’s state-run
public TV, that the horrendous Bali bombing, which killed more than
200 in Indonesia, was planned and carried out by Indonesian police or
military personnel at the behest of Western powers.

The transcript has already reportedly been removed from the archives
of the SBS, Australia's Special Broadcasting Services, but certain
alternative Internet sites, apparently anticipating this, claim to
have downloaded the transcript and have reproduced it in its entirety.
One of them is GlobalResearch.ca, and the excerpt that follows is
taking from its site. It features Abdurrahman Wahid, the former
Indonesian president who has achieved an almost iconic status in that
ordinarily peaceful but impoverished country.

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Begin transcript cite
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Today is the third anniversary of the first Bali attack that saw 202
people killed, including 88 Australians. Abdurrahman Wahid now has
questions about that attack as well. While some regard him as an
eccentric, he is the former president and is often described as the
conscience of the nation, revered by tens of millions of moderate
Muslims. As such, he's one of only a few people publicly prepared to
canvass the unthinkable - that Indonesian authorities may have had a
hand in the Bali atrocity. He believes that the plan for the second,
massive at the Sari Club, which caused the majority of casualties, was
hatched way above the head of uneducated villagers like Amrozi.

ABDURRAHMAN WAHID: Amrozi was involved in the lighter bomb. That's a
problem always. Even though I agree that he should be given a stiff
punishment, but it doesn't mean that he is involved. No, no, no.

REPORTER: So you believe that the Bali bombers had no idea that there
was a second bomb?

ABDURRAHMAN WAHID: Yeah, precisely.

REPORTER: And who would you suggest planted the second bomb?

ABDURRAHMAN WAHID: Well, it looks like the police.

REPORTER: The police?

ABDURRAHMAN WAHID: Or the armed forces, I don't know.

Wahid's speculation is chilling and again there's no evidence to
support it. But there's no doubt that he's a barometer of how many
Indonesians view the whole terror campaign.

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End transcript cite
----------------------------

The news about the program's upcoming second broadcast was carried
early Sunday morning eastern standard time by Rense.com, the powerful,
alternative Internet news site denounced by the State Dept., along
with some others, as unreliable and symptomatic of Net disinformation.

But the State Dept. will have to work hard to explain what may become
the most momentous J’accuse since France’s Dreyfus Affair.

Rense.Com described the program as follows, “In this documentary,
which is described as the world's most explosive expose of
International Intelligence Agencies ops and cover-ups, the former
president of Indonesia (who Australians describe as the only honest
high-level Indonesian politician), disclosed that the Indonesian
police or military are behind the Bali bombings. Also in this program,
Indonesian journalists and researchers state, unequivocally, that
'Moslem terrorists organizations' DO NOT EXIST as portrayed by the
government - that they are created and coordinated to act by
military-connected provocateurs. … They further claim that the
Indonesian military is totally corrupt and that Generals and
politicians are pocketing vast hordes of money they receive to 'fight
terrorism' - 'terrorism' which, in fact, they are creating
themselves."

The Australian (Australian.news.com) carried an analysis of the
program from which the following is excerpted:

“The program … claims a key figure behind the formation of terror
group Jemaah Islamiah was an Indonesian spy. Former terrorist Umar
Abduh, who is now a researcher and writer, told Dateline Indonesian
authorities had a hand in many terror groups. 'There is not a single
Islamic group either in the movement or the political groups that is
not controlled by (Indonesian) intelligence,' he said. Abduh has
written a book on Teungku Fauzi Hasbi, a key figure in Jemaah Islamiah
(JI) who had close contact with JI operations chief Hambali and lived
next door to Muslim cleric Abu Bakar Bashir. He says Hasbi was a
secret agent for Indonesia's military intelligence while at the same
time a key player in creating JI. Security analyst John Mempi told SBS
that Hasbi, who was also known as Abu Jihad, had played a key role in
JI in its early years. … Another terrorism expert, George Aditjondro,
said a bombing in May this year that killed 23 people in the Christian
village of Tentena, in central Sulawesi, had been organised by senior
military and police officers. 'This is a strategy of depopulating an
area and when an area has been depopulated both becoming refugees or
becoming paramilitary fighters then that is the time when they can
invest their money in major resource exploitation there,' he said."



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In the program which first aired on October 12, the blind, former
President of Indonesia - reportedly more trusted than any other
official in the country - told SBS-TV Date-Line, Australia's state-run
public TV, that the horrendous Bali bombing, which killed more than
200 in Indonesia, was planned and carried out by Indonesian police or
military personnel at the behest of Western powers.


Typical muslim lies..

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Old October 17th 05, 07:25 PM
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Sombody kick Rickets right square in the vagina. Please!!!!!

B.H.


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All that conspiracy stuff is driving his/her V....a Nutts!
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Old October 17th 05, 11:51 PM
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Of course it is directed by the CIA. Why else would the "All Seeing" eye
emanating from the top of an "Egyptian" pyramid on the back of the one
dollar bill.

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Indonesian President Accuses Western Intel Of Being Behind Bali
Bombings

Free Market News | October 17 2005

An extraordinary documentary produced by Australian public television,
"Inside Indonesia's War on Terrorism," will be rebroadcast again on
Monday, October 17 at 1PM.

In the program which first aired on October 12, the blind, former
President of Indonesia - reportedly more trusted than any other
official in the country - told SBS-TV Date-Line, Australia's state-run
public TV, that the horrendous Bali bombing, which killed more than
200 in Indonesia, was planned and carried out by Indonesian police or
military personnel at the behest of Western powers.

The transcript has already reportedly been removed from the archives
of the SBS, Australia's Special Broadcasting Services, but certain
alternative Internet sites, apparently anticipating this, claim to
have downloaded the transcript and have reproduced it in its entirety.
One of them is GlobalResearch.ca, and the excerpt that follows is
taking from its site. It features Abdurrahman Wahid, the former
Indonesian president who has achieved an almost iconic status in that
ordinarily peaceful but impoverished country.

----------------------------
Begin transcript cite
----------------------------

Today is the third anniversary of the first Bali attack that saw 202
people killed, including 88 Australians. Abdurrahman Wahid now has
questions about that attack as well. While some regard him as an
eccentric, he is the former president and is often described as the
conscience of the nation, revered by tens of millions of moderate
Muslims. As such, he's one of only a few people publicly prepared to
canvass the unthinkable - that Indonesian authorities may have had a
hand in the Bali atrocity. He believes that the plan for the second,
massive at the Sari Club, which caused the majority of casualties, was
hatched way above the head of uneducated villagers like Amrozi.

ABDURRAHMAN WAHID: Amrozi was involved in the lighter bomb. That's a
problem always. Even though I agree that he should be given a stiff
punishment, but it doesn't mean that he is involved. No, no, no.

REPORTER: So you believe that the Bali bombers had no idea that there
was a second bomb?

ABDURRAHMAN WAHID: Yeah, precisely.

REPORTER: And who would you suggest planted the second bomb?

ABDURRAHMAN WAHID: Well, it looks like the police.

REPORTER: The police?

ABDURRAHMAN WAHID: Or the armed forces, I don't know.

Wahid's speculation is chilling and again there's no evidence to
support it. But there's no doubt that he's a barometer of how many
Indonesians view the whole terror campaign.

----------------------------
End transcript cite
----------------------------

The news about the program's upcoming second broadcast was carried
early Sunday morning eastern standard time by Rense.com, the powerful,
alternative Internet news site denounced by the State Dept., along
with some others, as unreliable and symptomatic of Net disinformation.

But the State Dept. will have to work hard to explain what may become
the most momentous J'accuse since France's Dreyfus Affair.

Rense.Com described the program as follows, "In this documentary,
which is described as the world's most explosive expose of
International Intelligence Agencies ops and cover-ups, the former
president of Indonesia (who Australians describe as the only honest
high-level Indonesian politician), disclosed that the Indonesian
police or military are behind the Bali bombings. Also in this program,
Indonesian journalists and researchers state, unequivocally, that
'Moslem terrorists organizations' DO NOT EXIST as portrayed by the
government - that they are created and coordinated to act by
military-connected provocateurs. . They further claim that the
Indonesian military is totally corrupt and that Generals and
politicians are pocketing vast hordes of money they receive to 'fight
terrorism' - 'terrorism' which, in fact, they are creating
themselves."

The Australian (Australian.news.com) carried an analysis of the
program from which the following is excerpted:

"The program . claims a key figure behind the formation of terror
group Jemaah Islamiah was an Indonesian spy. Former terrorist Umar
Abduh, who is now a researcher and writer, told Dateline Indonesian
authorities had a hand in many terror groups. 'There is not a single
Islamic group either in the movement or the political groups that is
not controlled by (Indonesian) intelligence,' he said. Abduh has
written a book on Teungku Fauzi Hasbi, a key figure in Jemaah Islamiah
(JI) who had close contact with JI operations chief Hambali and lived
next door to Muslim cleric Abu Bakar Bashir. He says Hasbi was a
secret agent for Indonesia's military intelligence while at the same
time a key player in creating JI. Security analyst John Mempi told SBS
that Hasbi, who was also known as Abu Jihad, had played a key role in
JI in its early years. . Another terrorism expert, George Aditjondro,
said a bombing in May this year that killed 23 people in the Christian
village of Tentena, in central Sulawesi, had been organised by senior
military and police officers. 'This is a strategy of depopulating an
area and when an area has been depopulated both becoming refugees or
becoming paramilitary fighters then that is the time when they can
invest their money in major resource exploitation there,' he said."





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On Mon, 17 Oct 2005 16:51:03 -0500, "SeeingEyeDog"
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Of course it is directed by the CIA. Why else would the "All Seeing" eye
emanating from the top of an "Egyptian" pyramid on the back of the one
dollar bill.

That's a Freemason's pyramid.

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You can see anything in a U.S.one dollar bill you want to "see"
cuhulin

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bush said islam is a religion of peace.Michael Graham said islam is an
organization of terror.Michael Graham told the Truth.Guess which one got
fired?
cuhulin

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David wrote:

Goose Step five times then Knell Down and Bow Down and Pray.


Quit dissing the Irish, willya?



You mean to say it's the 'Book of KnEEls'? That doesn't really ring a
bell...





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