Don wrote:
"Carter-K8VT" wrote
Fred Garvin wrote:
I was for it at first but we've been there far too long now. Screw it, I
just don't give a **** anymore. More of our troops will die and there's
nothing we can do about it.

Sadly, you might be right. If we stay, then, as you say, more of our
troops will die. If we leave, Iraqi civil war and then major Middle East
destabilization.

So what?

A truly classic case of "damned if we do and damned if
we don't".

How are *we* damned if the troops leave Iraq?

If you had the ability to understand it, you'd already know the answer
to that.

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If John McCain gets the 2008 Republican Presidential nomination,
my vote for President will be a write-in for Jiang Zemin.

Actually, Sterwart is in Newburgh,N.Y., I know, I live a few miles
north of it. That plane passed only about 2 miles west of my house. I
came to realise this after I got home from work and saw the flight maps
on the news reports. If I had been home and looking west I would have no
doubt watched that plane go down the Hudson. I would of thought it odd
too seeing as though commercial flights don't take a route like that,
helicopters do all the time but not commercial flights. The commercial
flights usually travel diagonally across our area and C5A's fly over
here all the time and sometimes VERY low, those come from Stewart.

I saw a plane fly over my house today, it freaked me out seeing as
though there's been no air traffic since Tuesday. I momentarily jumped
when I first heard it coming then watched it fly over. Man this really
messes with your head...


My birthday is 5/4/1958





"Fred Garvin" wrote in message
news:2005111818420337709%garv@elaboratenet...
On 2005-11-17 19:28:33 -0500, "SeeingEyeDog" said:

and you are ready for the truth
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You know what? **** Iraq and the war. I just don't give a **** anymore.
There I said it. I don't give a **** what happens anymore over there. I'm
sick of hearing about it.

I was for it at first but we've been there far too long now. Screw it, I
just don't give a **** anymore. More of our troops will die and there's
nothing we can do about it.

--
PCs, like air-conditioners, are useless when you open Windows.

"Carter-K8VT" wrote in message
. ..
Don wrote:
"Carter-K8VT" wrote

Fred Garvin wrote:

I was for it at first but we've been there far too long now. Screw it, I
just don't give a **** anymore. More of our troops will die and there's
nothing we can do about it.

Sadly, you might be right. If we stay, then, as you say, more of our
troops will die. If we leave, Iraqi civil war and then major Middle East
destabilization.

So what?

Well, with destabilization of the Middle East, several bad things could
happen...probably one extreme being nuclear war, which many might bother
some folks (excluding the Armageddon/Rapture crowd, of course). At the
very minimum, it would probably disrupt the supply of oil waaaay more
than Katrina did--and make $5/gallon gas look positively cheap.

A truly classic case of "damned if we do and damned if

we don't".

How are *we* damned if the troops leave Iraq?

See "destabilization" above...

...and I presume "we" are a consumer of gasoline or that "we" might not
want that pesky fallout landing on our roof or our crops.

All of it is a non issue.
The US politicians should not have been involved in all of that in the 1st
place.
The best it can do at this point is to get out immediately.
The purpose of the US military is to protect the US and it can't do that
while it is being systematically dessimated in distant lands.

"clifto" wrote
If you had the ability to understand it, you'd already know the answer
to that.

Translation: I'm a dumb ****.
And no, moron, the soldier has NOT given anyone their rights.

Don wrote:

"clifto" wrote
If you had the ability to understand it, you'd already know the answer
to that.

Translation: I'm a dumb ****.

Yes, you are.

dxAce
Michigan
USA