dxAce wrote:
D Peter Maus wrote:

dxAce wrote:

dxAce wrote:

D Peter Maus wrote:

dxAce wrote:
m II wrote:

dxAce (The Star Spangled Boner) wrote:

LMAO...
You've laughed it off so many times that it must be getting pretty worn
out from hitting the floor..unless of course you ARE still on the floor
because of another bout of binge drinking.
LMAO at the dumbass Canuck yet again.

When will you ever learn, you stupid piece of human debris?
Now, come on, Steve....that's wholly unfair to human debris.
OK, OK... M II is a stupid piece of Canuck debris.

But that doesn't sound right either as Canuck and debris are one and the same.

Hmmm....Ok....then how about we just send back Shatner. That'll teach
'em.

Good idea.

I say send back Celine Dion.

--
If John McCain gets the 2008 Republican Presidential nomination,
my vote for President will be a write-in for Jiang Zemin.

junius wrote:
John S. wrote:
To be honest, I would stay away from the high-priced receivers from
Eton/Grundig. Products from that company seem to have more than their
share of quality control problems so if you go with something from them
minimize your risk of loss by buying on the lower end.


Very much an issue with the Satellit 800, which was put together by the
Tecsun folks in China; but I hadn't heard of quality control issues
with the E1, which is put together by your friends at Bharat
Electronics, an Indian manufacturer of defense and civil communications
products. The E1 has been out on the market for a number of months
now... have there been quality control issues to emerge?

This was one reason why I have opted to wait it out a bit before
purchasing an E1: to see if a shakedown was in order. Kept my fingers
crossed that this wouldn't be another Satellit 800, in that regard.
But from all indicators I've seen thus far, the E1 seems consistently
solid in build quality (thankfully).

The geographic location of the manufacturing facility is not the issue.
The willingness of a marketing and distribution operation like
Eton/Grundig to pay for and insist on strict quality control and good
quality components is really the issue. Their track record of
haphazard delivery schedules and poor quality in prior products does
not give me much assurance with this latest round of receivers. Maybe
things have changed, but I would not gamble that much money at this
point.

The Tecsun-Degen group are capable of producing good quality radios,
but quality costs money that Eton apparently was not willing to invest
in the 800 project.

John S. wrote:
The geographic location of the manufacturing facility is not the issue.

Indeed, geography as such isn't an issue. The fact that the product is
being put together by a manufacturer other than Tecsun-Degen could well
be.

The willingness of a marketing and distribution operation like
Eton/Grundig to pay for and insist on strict quality control and good
quality components is really the issue.

Shifting operations to Bharat Electronics Ltd could well be a part of
an Eton/Grundig insistence on a higher level of quality control where
this model is concerned.

Their track record of
haphazard delivery schedules and poor quality in prior products does
not give me much assurance with this latest round of receivers.

Thus far, their track record with quality control in this unit seems to
be a break from the ineptitude with the Satellite 800. Admitedly, the
delays on the release of the E1, on the other hand, were annoying and
certainly gave reason for pause.

Maybe
things have changed, but I would not gamble that much money at this
point.

Admittedly, the degree of risk aversion varies from consumer to
consumer, so I can understand if someone in the market for a premium
portable decided to wait it out a bit longer on this one. I've done so
myself, despite the fact that I was quite impressed by the sample I
borrowed from a friend.

The Tecsun-Degen group are capable of producing good quality radios,
but quality costs money that Eton apparently was not willing to invest
in the 800 project.

Maybe the Tecsun-Degen group are capable of putting together a decent
under $100 throwaway...I don't really know. Given their track record
in partnership with Eton/Grundig, I'd be extremely cautious with regard
to any premium set that they might put out.

Junius

junius wrote:
John S. wrote:
The geographic location of the manufacturing facility is not the issue.

Indeed, geography as such isn't an issue. The fact that the product is
being put together by a manufacturer other than Tecsun-Degen could well
be.

The willingness of a marketing and distribution operation like
Eton/Grundig to pay for and insist on strict quality control and good
quality components is really the issue.

Shifting operations to Bharat Electronics Ltd could well be a part of
an Eton/Grundig insistence on a higher level of quality control where
this model is concerned.

Their track record of
haphazard delivery schedules and poor quality in prior products does
not give me much assurance with this latest round of receivers.

Thus far, their track record with quality control in this unit seems to
be a break from the ineptitude with the Satellite 800. Admitedly, the
delays on the release of the E1, on the other hand, were annoying and
certainly gave reason for pause.

Maybe
things have changed, but I would not gamble that much money at this
point.

Admittedly, the degree of risk aversion varies from consumer to
consumer, so I can understand if someone in the market for a premium
portable decided to wait it out a bit longer on this one. I've done so
myself, despite the fact that I was quite impressed by the sample I
borrowed from a friend.

The Tecsun-Degen group are capable of producing good quality radios,
but quality costs money that Eton apparently was not willing to invest
in the 800 project.

Maybe the Tecsun-Degen group are capable of putting together a decent
under $100 throwaway...I don't really know. Given their track record
in partnership with Eton/Grundig, I'd be extremely cautious with regard
to any premium set that they might put out.

I've got a $60.00 Degen DE1103 that has had no QC problems - it works
every time. Indeed it is finshed well and the parts fit tightly. At
half the price of a Sony it is a steal. The memory system has some
limitations inherent with the design, but it works.

OTOH I have an Eton hand crank generator radio that feels downright
flimsy considering it sells for $40.00 Whether it is of Chinese or
Indian origin isn't as important as the wobbly grindy crank generator
which feels like it could come apart at the wrong time.


Junius

Junius - Yes China Inc. and the PLA ~ RHF

wrote in message
...
Or Glenn Ford or Guy Lombardo and his Royal Canadians or Marty McFly.
cuhulin


HEY, I liked Glenn Ford!

"David" wrote in message
...
The question was about AM mode. There's no bells and whistles on an
R8B that make it better than an R-390A for AM radio.

It just gets more stations.

Rob wrote:
My 14 and 16 year old son's listen to the local High School radio
station on them....Sorry if you cant understand that but at least
someone gets some use out of them??

Are you really a "Typical Troll" Brian?


Stupid post - doesn't deserve a reply. No credibility whatsoever.
--
Brian Denley
http://home.comcast.net/~b.denley/index.html

On Mon, 28 Nov 2005 14:27:41 GMT, David wrote:

On Mon, 28 Nov 2005 02:01:08 -0800, OregonMike
wrote:

On Sun, 27 Nov 2005 01:33:15 GMT, David wrote:

one more thing I forget to mention as a "must" is

(5) portability.

I'd like to be able to take this wherever while at the same time used
it at home connected to an outdoor antenna array.


OM

The Eton E1. You can add XM for space music for another $40 + a
recurring monthly.


QSL,

I'm looking at the Eton E1 on some sites. Is there a best vendor
online/walk-in to look towards for purchasing RCVRs. Universal Radio
is selling the E1 for $499.95 from what I can tell.


OM

You can walk into Universal. Ham Radio Outlet also carries them.


I've been to the HRO in Tigard, OR many times and have bought most my
rigs from there.


Tks,

OM

On Tue, 29 Nov 2005 03:26:14 GMT, "David Eduardo"
wrote:


"David" wrote in message
.. .
The question was about AM mode. There's no bells and whistles on an
R8B that make it better than an R-390A for AM radio.

It just gets more stations.


No. It doesn't. The R390A is quieter.