"John Barnard" wrote in message
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clifto wrote:

http://www.lookaboutusa.com/ wrote:
Also thanks to Greenpeace who have alreadysunk nine whalinf ships

Goddamned ****ing terrorists.

--
If John McCain gets the 2008 Republican Presidential nomination,
my vote for President will be a write-in for Jiang Zemin.

If terrorism is required to make sure that another species doesn't get
delegated to the heap on non-existence then so be it!

I bet you're a PETAphile too.

I bet you're a PETAphile too.

Don't know about JB, but I am. If it's opposed to cruelty to, or
exploitation of, children or critters, I'm for it.

Bruce Jensen

"bpnjensen" wrote in message
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I bet you're a PETAphile too.

Don't know about JB, but I am. If it's opposed to cruelty to, or
exploitation of, children or critters, I'm for it.

You DO realize PETA is a major contributor to known domestic terrorist
organizations like ALF and ELF. So you're all for firebombing car
dealerships as well then.

MnMikew wrote:

"bpnjensen" wrote in message

oups.com...

I bet you're a PETAphile too.

Don't know about JB, but I am. If it's opposed to cruelty to, or
exploitation of, children or critters, I'm for it.

You DO realize PETA is a major contributor to known domestic terrorist
organizations like ALF and ELF. So you're all for firebombing car
dealerships as well then.

I do not know this for certain; if you can provide some proof, either
rmaterial, an eyewitness account or a conviction in a court of law, I
will accept it. Having said that -

Unless a human being is harmed by one of these groups, I do not
consider an organization "terrorist." Civilly disobedient, certainly.
Guilty of property destruction, yes, sometimes. Terrorist? *No,* as
long as no humans are physically. As far as property destruction goes,
I am not in favor of bombing car dealerships or people's homes.

If, however, you consider it a terrorist organization despite lack of
human injury or death, then count me among the terrorists. Animals are
terrorized, abused, vivisected, cruelly beaten and murdered every day
in thousands of ways and circumstances, at the hands of humans who have
no special claim to any right to do so. I feel little sympathy for a
person whose pertinent property is destroyed when he or she shamelessly
abuses and tortures pain-feeling creatures on a business-as-usual
basis. This is fascism, true blue unadulterated fascism by definition
at its terrifying worst, and the animals have no voice, no vote, no
recourse whatsoever - except by those who stick up for them.

I am solidly in favor of working to educate and legislate compassion
and rights for animals. When this fails, as it so often does in the
ethically corrupt human political world, then it is fair to fight fire
with fire - so long as no human is physically harmed. Yes, I believe
that, and make no apology whatsoever. I know in my heart that the
sanctity of material possessions cannot compare with the sanctity of a
living creature's freedom from abuse.

There are various related issues, and I will be happy to discuss them
in private, not on this messy forum.

Bruce Jensen

bpnjensen wrote:

MnMikew wrote:

"bpnjensen" wrote in message

oups.com...

I bet you're a PETAphile too.

Don't know about JB, but I am. If it's opposed to cruelty to, or
exploitation of, children or critters, I'm for it.

You DO realize PETA is a major contributor to known domestic terrorist
organizations like ALF and ELF. So you're all for firebombing car
dealerships as well then.

I do not know this for certain; if you can provide some proof, either
rmaterial, an eyewitness account or a conviction in a court of law, I
will accept it. Having said that -

Unless a human being is harmed by one of these groups, I do not
consider an organization "terrorist." Civilly disobedient, certainly.
Guilty of property destruction, yes, sometimes. Terrorist? *No,* as
long as no humans are physically. As far as property destruction goes,
I am not in favor of bombing car dealerships or people's homes.

If, however, you consider it a terrorist organization despite lack of
human injury or death, then count me among the terrorists. Animals are
terrorized, abused, vivisected, cruelly beaten and murdered every day
in thousands of ways and circumstances, at the hands of humans who have
no special claim to any right to do so. I feel little sympathy for a
person whose pertinent property is destroyed when he or she shamelessly
abuses and tortures pain-feeling creatures on a business-as-usual
basis. This is fascism, true blue unadulterated fascism by definition
at its terrifying worst, and the animals have no voice, no vote, no
recourse whatsoever - except by those who stick up for them.

I am solidly in favor of working to educate and legislate compassion
and rights for animals. When this fails, as it so often does in the
ethically corrupt human political world, then it is fair to fight fire
with fire - so long as no human is physically harmed. Yes, I believe
that, and make no apology whatsoever. I know in my heart that the
sanctity of material possessions cannot compare with the sanctity of a
living creature's freedom from abuse.

There are various related issues, and I will be happy to discuss them
in private, not on this messy forum.

Damn, I'm sure hungry for a steak!

Meat: It's what real DX'ers have for dinner.

dxAce
Michigan
USA

Meat: It's what real DX'ers have for dinner.

dxAce
Michigan
USA

It's what fools use to clog their arteries.

BJ

"bpnjensen" wrote in message
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I do not know this for certain; if you can provide some proof, either
rmaterial, an eyewitness account or a conviction in a court of law, I
will accept it. Having said that -

http://www.animalscam.com/references/peta_rodney1.cfm

Unless a human being is harmed by one of these groups, I do not
consider an organization "terrorist."

You can't be serious? One does not have to kill or injure to terrorize.

If, however, you consider it a terrorist organization despite lack of
human injury or death, then count me among the terrorists. Animals are
terrorized, abused, vivisected, cruelly beaten and murdered every day
in thousands of ways and circumstances, at the hands of humans who have
no special claim to any right to do so. I feel little sympathy for a
person whose pertinent property is destroyed when he or she shamelessly
abuses and tortures pain-feeling creatures on a business-as-usual
basis.

So is medical research considered shameless abuse or torture? Then I guess
your OK with bombing University research labs.

This is fascism, true blue unadulterated fascism by definition
at its terrifying worst, and the animals have no voice, no vote, no
recourse whatsoever - except by those who stick up for them.

No, it's unadulterated terrorism, period.


There are various related issues, and I will be happy to discuss them
in private, not on this messy forum.

Bruce Jensen

"Carter-K8VT" wrote in message
m...
dx-so called-"ace" wrote:

Damn, I'm sure hungry for a steak!

Meat: It's what real DX'ers have for dinner.

Paging the so-called "ace"...Paging the so-called "ace"...

...your soy burger is ready.

Soy, the vegetarians other white meat.

MnMikew wrote:

You can't be serious? One does not have to kill or injure to terrorize.

No? What must one do, then? Define "terror" for me. Then I'll define
it again for you, since you didn't seem to latch onto who the real
terrorists are.

If "terror" is freeing animals from unspeakable misery, then I am a
terrorist sympathizer. I am not in favor of unnecessary damage.

As I told you, I'll be happy to discuss various aspects in private
(Like medical research).

Bruce Jensen

dxAce wrote:

You spend a lot of your time worrying, don't you?

Yeah - It's a hallmark of people who give a damn about something.

That'll kill ya too.

Something's gotta do it, right?

Bruce Jensen