"OregonMike" wrote in message

I'm not sure how recent it is. I've been dealing with idiot truckers
bootlegging on 10m since the 80's. Many bootleg in the cw section of
the band and stand out quite noticeably. I remember one idiot trucker
popping up on top a CW station from Thailand just on in the static but
copiable and having heard my call come from him and ready to swap
signal reports, his moronic audio toys (echoes, reverb, beeps,
amplified voice) totally wipe out any chance anybody had of working
that rare one on 10m cw.

OM


There seems to be allot more aholes all over the HF spectrum from outbanders
to ahole hams with an ax to grind.

BH

D Peter Maus wrote:
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I don't often get into the FCC bashing mode, but putting Citizens
Radio Service on 11 meters was one of the most bone headed decisions to
come out of Gettysburg. Citizens Radio Service was to be local only,
limited power, short range communication. It has a radius limit in the
charter. And yet, they put it on one of the best propagation bands in
the spectrum. When I was experimenting with CB in the mid 60's, I had an
Arvin HT with 100 milliwatts, and got to chatting with a licensed
operator about nothing in particular. (Which I later found out was a
violation of his licensing provisions.) He was aware I was working a
license free HT, but he thought I was just a local kid. I thought he was
the CB station at the end of the block. We were both stunned when we
realized that he was in North Carolina and I was in Florissant, Missouri.
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I dislike almost every decission the FCC has made since it's inception.
But in regards to class D CB.....
There wasn't a whole lot of choice.
Class A, ~4645MHz, just wasn't feasable with 1950 technology, and died
on
the vine so to speak. There was a clear need for a simpler licensing
scheme
for small bussiness and farm/ranches. We can "thank" Firestone Tire for

demonstrating an inexpensive 11M transceiver. I suspect that no one in
the
FCC, or Friestone for that mater, could have any idea that CB would
take off.
And until Japen introduced low cost transistor units CB was mostly used
by
busineses.

I am just glad the FCC didn't snag 6M or 2M for CB use.

Too bad they didn't stick in the 72~76MHz hole between TV CH4 and CH5.

Terry

"Bill" wrote:
27.475 LSB ... so would this be freebander skip??

Brenda Ann replied:
It could be, but freebander convention is to use USB.
This is not to say nobody ever uses LSB.

If it's coming in on the "wrong" sideband it could be an image (455khz
IF?) or hetrodyne in the receiver from the "legal" CB band.

What is the official allocation in 27.5-28MHz anymore? For a while
there were commercial users but I don't know if they're still around.

Tim.

wrote:

What is the official allocation in 27.5-28MHz anymore? For a while
there were commercial users but I don't know if they're still around.

Tim.
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In Kentucky as recently as 2003 there where several business users.
A glass company in Lexington and another company in Ft Mitchel,
or so,ehwer up that way.

I heard both those stations while working on a better upper SW antenna.

Terry

What is the official allocation in 27.5-28MHz anymore? For a while
there were commercial users but I don't know if they're still around.

The last time I looked, the official allocation was aviation. There
may be secondary users though...Saying that, I've never heard
an aircraft using that band. Actually...I don't believe I've ever heard
anyone using that band except CBers, but I never really listened
too awful hard. Biz users are probably fairly recent I bet.. I've
heard quite a few of those on the low VHF band when it's opened
up.
MK

I've been dealing with idiot truckers
bootlegging on 10m since the 80's. Many bootleg in the cw section of
the band and stand out quite noticeably.

Oh I've heard em. I used to crank up my henry console
when they started that mess with me. A KW+ on 10m will
brown the food. I'd make their bootlegging as painful as
possible for them. All they would hear is "WHUMP_WHUMP_WHUMP"
if on AM. On SSB, of course they would hear the tone, but it
would still be difficult for them to carry on. I'm such a radio bully.
:/
I guess they did kinda start out in the late 80's now that I think
about it. Time flies so fast, that almost seems like yesterday
sometimes... I used to work lots of CW on 10m, and I had little mercy
for any CBers that thought they should share the freq with me.
I could hurt them lots worse than they hurt me, being I was
receiving CW with tighter filters.. I never used the amp for normal
use on 10m...Overkill...But I'd fire it up for them just to give them a
good toasting. I'd almost always be able to run em off the freq.
MK

In article .com,
wrote:
I guess they did kinda start out in the late 80's now that I think
about it. Time flies so fast, that almost seems like yesterday
sometimes...

I think it got bad when a bunch of 10 meter synthesized rigs were made
when Novice/Techs got voice privileges on 10 meters. As I remember,
they were reported to be retuneable down to 26-28 with a few jumpers.
Sold at truck stops and the like, as they ran more power than a legal
CB.

Mark Zenier
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