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Old January 19th 06, 06:08 AM posted to rec.radio.shortwave
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I was looking around and i found this from sangean
http://www.ozgear.com.au/Sangean/ANT60.htm its a portable antenna and i
was wondering if anyone have seen/tried it?.I need an antenna because
with my normal antenna that comes with my radio it is close to
impossible to get ANYTHING in the daytime.

yours truly
Adam
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Old January 19th 06, 06:31 AM posted to rec.radio.shortwave
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That adam or you can always get a short amount of speaker wire such as 18
Gauge speaker wire and then use anywhere from 10 to 30 feet. Just watch out
for overload caused by too much wire. You can connect to the antenna with an
alligator clip or you can plug it into the side jack for the antenna.

"adam214" wrote in message
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I was looking around and i found this from sangean
http://www.ozgear.com.au/Sangean/ANT60.htm its a portable antenna and i was
wondering if anyone have seen/tried it?.I need an antenna because with my
normal antenna that comes with my radio it is close to impossible to get
ANYTHING in the daytime.

yours truly
Adam



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Old January 19th 06, 06:58 AM posted to rec.radio.shortwave
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SB wrote:
That adam or you can always get a short amount of speaker wire such as 18
Gauge speaker wire and then use anywhere from 10 to 30 feet. Just watch out
for overload caused by too much wire. You can connect to the antenna with an
alligator clip or you can plug it into the side jack for the antenna.

"adam214" wrote in message
news:1137647484.744500@teuthos...
I was looking around and i found this from sangean
http://www.ozgear.com.au/Sangean/ANT60.htm its a portable antenna and i was
wondering if anyone have seen/tried it?.I need an antenna because with my
normal antenna that comes with my radio it is close to impossible to get
ANYTHING in the daytime.

yours truly
Adam



with connecting to the side jack do you thread it in or do you have to
soldier a jack on there?
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Old January 19th 06, 07:41 AM posted to rec.radio.shortwave
 
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On Thu, 19 Jan 2006 16:28:28 +1030, adam214
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SB wrote:
That adam or you can always get a short amount of speaker wire such as 18
Gauge speaker wire and then use anywhere from 10 to 30 feet. Just watch out
for overload caused by too much wire. You can connect to the antenna with an
alligator clip or you can plug it into the side jack for the antenna.

"adam214" wrote in message
news:1137647484.744500@teuthos...
I was looking around and i found this from sangean
http://www.ozgear.com.au/Sangean/ANT60.htm its a portable antenna and i was
wondering if anyone have seen/tried it?.I need an antenna because with my
normal antenna that comes with my radio it is close to impossible to get
ANYTHING in the daytime.

yours truly
Adam



with connecting to the side jack do you thread it in or do you have to
soldier a jack on there?


Adam,
I second SB's suggestion. As to how to hook it to the radio - wrap
the wire around the whip antenna (which does not need to be extended)
5 - 10 times - this is called inductive coupling and the wire does
not need to be tight on the whip.
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Old January 19th 06, 01:32 PM posted to rec.radio.shortwave
 
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Yep, Got one.. Good for general AM / FM / SW reception..

Use it with my Sangean 606a when on Vacation or travelling..

also use a AN-LP-1 and switch back & forth to get the best SW reception


adam214 wrote:
I was looking around and i found this from sangean
http://www.ozgear.com.au/Sangean/ANT60.htm its a portable antenna and i
was wondering if anyone have seen/tried it?.I need an antenna because
with my normal antenna that comes with my radio it is close to
impossible to get ANYTHING in the daytime.

yours truly
Adam




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Old January 19th 06, 04:37 PM posted to rec.radio.shortwave
 
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y'all handled that one pretty well.If you want to use the antenna jack
on your radio,get a short little piece of something like a piece of
thick lamp cord bare wire.Twist it around so it will be a snug fit and
put an alligator clip on your long antenna wire and clip on to that.

y'all ever heard of Alligator Bill and Potlicker Mary and Tubby Doug
before? (I didn't think so) Jesse Bowland (Sunbeam Bakery relay store
that used to be on Valley Street here in Jackson,Mee see see pee pee
eye,I used to drive a bread truck) used to flirt with Tubby Doug's wife.
cuhulin

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"adam214" wrote in message
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I was looking around and i found this from sangean
http://www.ozgear.com.au/Sangean/ANT60.htm its a portable antenna and i was
wondering if anyone have seen/tried it?.I need an antenna because with my
normal antenna that comes with my radio it is close to impossible to get
ANYTHING in the daytime.

yours truly
Adam


All it is is just a piece of wire in a fancy case. Why spend $20? when any
wire will work Adam. Get some wire at radio shack and a alligator clip and
hook it to your telescoping ant on your radio.

B.H.


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Old January 19th 06, 06:24 PM posted to rec.radio.shortwave
 
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Get any kind of wire you can find.Them plastic roll up wires are a waste
of money.Never,but never! buy anything from www.ccrane.com
cuhulin

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Old January 19th 06, 11:52 PM posted to rec.radio.shortwave
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In article 1137647484.744500@teuthos, adam214
wrote:

I was looking around and i found this from sangean
http://www.ozgear.com.au/Sangean/ANT60.htm its a portable antenna and
i was wondering if anyone have seen/tried it?.I need an antenna
because with my normal antenna that comes with my radio it is close
to impossible to get ANYTHING in the daytime.


Welcome to the often mysterious world of SW receiving antennas.

You will have to pay close attention as to whether you are in fact
receiving nothing or a high background noise level due to local
electronic noise sources. Signal levels can be a relative thing as that
to receive a station it has to overcome two things:

1. It has to greater than your radios internal noise floor for you to
hear it.

2. It has to overcome any local noise generated in the area.

This is not perfect because even the collapsed antenna will pick up
some signal noise but that said...

With the antenna collapsed and your hands away from it you should be
able to turn up the volume most of the way when you are not tuned to a
station and hear a random broad spectrum noise usually described as
hiss or white noise. This is the radios internal noise.

Then extend the antenna all the way in a vertical position and the
white noise level should only go up a little. It will go up more on the
lower bands and less on the upper bands. The increase if any is the
external noise.

Now if the difference in background noise is large between collapsed
and extended antenna then you have a local noise problem and you should
try another location where outdoors is usually better. If the
difference in the background noise is small then you can try connecting
an external antenna.

Easiest thing to do is to string about 10 to 25 feet of wire off the
ground then vertically to the radio antenna wrapping the wire about 10
turns around the base of the collapsed antenna base. If this pulls in
more signal for you (it should) then you could also explore the antenna
jack on the radio if it has one. Find the proper plug that goes in the
jack, most likely a 1/8 phono jack, and solder the wire to the plug
tip.

If the external antenna however connected to the radio makes a large
difference in the in the background noise be aware that any possibly
increase in the signal will have to overcome it. Good reception
requires a significant difference between the received noise and the
signal you want to listen too. Sometimes that may mean the radio might
work better by itself and other times better with an external antenna.
This relative difference will change depending on whether you string it
near a local noise source such as a computer.

Using the radios whip antenna is convenient and the extended external
wire is just an extension of that whip. If this is not working well
enough for what you want to receive then you need a better type of
antenna possibly in a better location.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California
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"adam214" wrote in message
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I was looking around and i found this from sangean
http://www.ozgear.com.au/Sangean/ANT60.htm its a portable antenna and i was
wondering if anyone have seen/tried it?.I need an antenna because with my
normal antenna that comes with my radio it is close to impossible to get
ANYTHING in the daytime.

yours truly
Adam


All it is is just a piece of wire in a fancy case. Why spend $20? when any
wire will work Adam. Get some wire at radio shack and a alligator clip and
hook it to your telescoping ant on your radio.

B.H.


yeah a couple of meters of wire would be a helluva lot cheaper than the
stuff that sangean was flogging off
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