Hello:

Can anyone offer an opinion on how well a good quality name brand coax will
"typically" last if buried ?

Not the types called "buriable", just the regular stuff.

Will probably run in a pvc conduit, but was wondering about if I didn't.

Thanks,
Bob

On Fri, 27 Jan 2006 07:34:35 -0500, "Robert11"
wrote:

Hello:

Can anyone offer an opinion on how well a good quality name brand coax will
"typically" last if buried ?

Not the types called "buriable", just the regular stuff.

Will probably run in a pvc conduit, but was wondering about if I didn't.

Thanks,
Bob


Depends on the pH of the soil, moisture, etc. Here, everything is
directly buried and they don't really seem to use anything special.
PVC jacketed stuff will outlast your average hairless ape.

Davis RF sells a coax they claim can be buried. I'd consider using both
a cable rated for burial and put it in PVC pipe. In small diameters,
that white PVC pipe is nearly free.

http://www.davisrf.com/

I'd have to dig up the book, but the wireman has tips on buried coax.

Robert11 wrote:
Hello:

Can anyone offer an opinion on how well a good quality name brand coax will
"typically" last if buried ?

Not the types called "buriable", just the regular stuff.

Will probably run in a pvc conduit, but was wondering about if I didn't.

Thanks,
Bob

Bob.

Get the latest book called WIREBOOK IV from Press Jones, N8UG. It's not
too big, is easy to read, and has MANY of your answers inside. One
chapter deals with the proper way to use buried coax. That's the main
reason I first bought the book. I have no interest with him, but think
his book is excellent! Here's their contact information:

The Wireman
www.thewireman.com
800-727-9473

-Tim




Robert11 wrote:
Hello:

Can anyone offer an opinion on how well a good quality name brand coax will
"typically" last if buried ?

Not the types called "buriable", just the regular stuff.

Will probably run in a pvc conduit, but was wondering about if I didn't.

Thanks,
Bob

In article ,
"Robert11" wrote:

Hello:

Can anyone offer an opinion on how well a good quality name brand coax will
"typically" last if buried ?

Not the types called "buriable", just the regular stuff.

Will probably run in a pvc conduit, but was wondering about if I didn't.

Using a PVC conduit is a good idea. Use a pull string and leave one
inside the conduit in case you want to add cables or other wires in the
future. Use a couple of elbows to point the openings down so water does
not get inside.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

Telamon wrote:

Using a PVC conduit is a good idea. Use a pull string and leave one
inside the conduit in case you want to add cables or other wires in the
future. Use a couple of elbows to point the openings down so water does
not get inside.


With PVC pipe, it's a good idea to drill a drain hole at the lowest
point, for drainage. Even if rain doesn't get in, there will still be
water in the pipe from condensation.

Warm air gets into the stuff and the soil cools it down. Any water
vapour in the air settles out.

A wad of Duxseal or similar duct putty on the ends of the pipe/conduit,
sealing the coax, is also in order.






mike

On Sat, 28 Jan 2006 03:09:57 GMT, m II wrote:

Telamon wrote:

Using a PVC conduit is a good idea. Use a pull string and leave one
inside the conduit in case you want to add cables or other wires in the
future. Use a couple of elbows to point the openings down so water does
not get inside.


With PVC pipe, it's a good idea to drill a drain hole at the lowest
point, for drainage. Even if rain doesn't get in, there will still be
water in the pipe from condensation.

Warm air gets into the stuff and the soil cools it down. Any water
vapour in the air settles out.

A wad of Duxseal or similar duct putty on the ends of the pipe/conduit,
sealing the coax, is also in order\0\0\0
Seems to me the plastic pipe doesn't help at all, except for
mechanical protection. All my utilities are underground and all are
just PVC jackets in the dirt (except for gas, water, and wa

David wrote:

Seems to me the plastic pipe doesn't help at all, except for
mechanical protection. All my utilities are underground and all are
just PVC jackets in the dirt (except for gas, water, and wa


Pretty much mechanical protection only. If there's no drain then the
pipe serves to make sure the wiring sits in a pool of water forever. At
least with direct burial, you only get random wettings. A layer of sand
around the cable would serve to protect from damage.

Other than mechanical protection, the other use of pipe is to allow
future installation of wiring between buildings, etc

The city authority here now requires a two inch PVC pipe for all new
underground residential electrical services. It has to go from the meter
out to the property line. The concentric neutral (or URD cable, if you
prefer) is installed in the pipe.

The reasoning is that if the cable ever has to be changed because of
damage, the large pipe will allow easy re-pulling.

It seems to me that if the wire is damaged to the point of needing
replacement, you have far more serious problems than just the wire. A
collapsed conduit would make change impossible.



mike

David wrote:
On Fri, 27 Jan 2006 07:34:35 -0500, "Robert11"
wrote:
Can anyone offer an opinion on how well a good quality name brand coax will
"typically" last if buried ?

Depends on the pH of the soil, moisture, etc. Here, everything is
directly buried and they don't really seem to use anything special.
PVC jacketed stuff will outlast your average hairless ape.

PVC jacketed stuff is the contaminating kind, and will change characteristics
(loss, capacitance, impedance, etc.) in just a couple of years.

--
If John McCain gets the 2008 Republican Presidential nomination,
my vote for President will be a write-in for Jiang Zemin.

On Mon, 30 Jan 2006 00:11:31 -0600, clifto wrote:

David wrote:
On Fri, 27 Jan 2006 07:34:35 -0500, "Robert11"
wrote:
Can anyone offer an opinion on how well a good quality name brand coax will
"typically" last if buried ?

Depends on the pH of the soil, moisture, etc. Here, everything is
directly buried and they don't really seem to use anything special.
PVC jacketed stuff will outlast your average hairless ape.

PVC jacketed stuff is the contaminating kind, and will change characteristics
(loss, capacitance, impedance, etc.) in just a couple of years.
Right. Will it change enough to matter at 20 Mhz?